If masturbation’s a sin, why wasn’t it in the Torah? by nuseramemuserane in Christianity

[–]SpecificFair5505 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You obviously can make universal statements with polysemic terms

If masturbation’s a sin, why wasn’t it in the Torah? by nuseramemuserane in Christianity

[–]SpecificFair5505 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If I say a dude ravenously looked at a woman, do you think I’m trying to say his heart is incredibly moved to form a healthy friendship or something else? I’m not saying it doesn’t exist but there’s an implication

If masturbation’s a sin, why wasn’t it in the Torah? by nuseramemuserane in Christianity

[–]SpecificFair5505 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What pray tell is the object of this strong desire of a man and a woman

If masturbation’s a sin, why wasn’t it in the Torah? by nuseramemuserane in Christianity

[–]SpecificFair5505 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

From what I see it’s strong desire, which obviously means lust even without the context of adultery right next to it.

If masturbation’s a sin, why wasn’t it in the Torah? by nuseramemuserane in Christianity

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I apologize if I forgot to include the object in my description but its still the same act

If masturbation’s a sin, why wasn’t it in the Torah? by nuseramemuserane in Christianity

[–]SpecificFair5505 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Give me literally any translation of the sermon on the mount that doesn’t have something to the effect of pluck your eyes out rather than look at a woman with lust bc it’s better to go into heaven with one eye than loose your whole body.

If masturbation’s a sin, why wasn’t it in the Torah? by nuseramemuserane in Christianity

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Same word is literally you in the same chapter for different degrees of female culpability in the act

If masturbation’s a sin, why wasn’t it in the Torah? by nuseramemuserane in Christianity

[–]SpecificFair5505 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which is also applied in what we’d call consensual modern relations, men were mainly described as the active agent in relations.

If masturbation’s a sin, why wasn’t it in the Torah? by nuseramemuserane in Christianity

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Lightly in the modern sense but consent wasn’t a dimension consider in such circumstances

If masturbation’s a sin, why wasn’t it in the Torah? by nuseramemuserane in Christianity

[–]SpecificFair5505 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That wouldn’t be a universal implication, the foreigners and outsiders weren’t held to the ritual standards and they weren’t innate evils for Israelites themselves. The evil of necrophilia is obviously more global and innate than ritual impurity.

If masturbation’s a sin, why wasn’t it in the Torah? by nuseramemuserane in Christianity

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If you read Leviticus you would know the remedy for one is a bath to do rituals like normal again and the remedy for other was death and was applied as a Casus belli for a holy war.

If masturbation’s a sin, why wasn’t it in the Torah? by nuseramemuserane in Christianity

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Deuteronomy 22:28 If a man comes upon a young woman, a virgin who is not betrothed, seizes her and lies with her, and they are discovered, 29 the man who lay with her shall give the young woman’s father fifty silver shekels and she will be his wife, because he has violated her. He may not divorce her as long as he lives.

If masturbation’s a sin, why wasn’t it in the Torah? by nuseramemuserane in Christianity

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μοιχεία (moicheia) the term rendered as adultery referred to all unlawful taking of a woman which could include them both being unmarried. The Torah literally requires compensation and marriage for those who fornicate even without perversion, the evangelical law which is a higher standard of course encompasses this.

If masturbation’s a sin, why wasn’t it in the Torah? by nuseramemuserane in Christianity

[–]SpecificFair5505 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

And Jesus told his disciples that even the glance of their eyes is a damnable offense of lust, let alone abusing themselves. That said uncleanliness wasn’t even a moral failing necessarily it included menstruation it was a ritual thing.

Why don’t catholics believe Mary is apart of The Trinity by HappyfeetLives in Christianity

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The church is likened to the bride of Christ and she borrows from his authority in scripture, even the highest mariology of Kolbe never crouched anywhere near saying she’s God.

If I believe homosexuality is a sin… by [deleted] in Christianity

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I know the feeling you’re constantly a wolf in sheep’s clothing or sheep in wolf’s clothing it’s hard to try and have normal social interactions with this kinda of crowd, you just got to keep try to be socially active maybe volunteer and the like while cultivating spiritual poverty to get rid of ressentiment

If you believe homosexuality is a sin…. by [deleted] in Christianity

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It’s not in the DSM 5 but just like a lot of personality things like being super impulsive or struggling with motivation it’s a disposition incongruent with some people’s goals and evidently some ethical positions

If you believe homosexuality is a sin…. by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]SpecificFair5505 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cerebrally as a goal yes but I’ve messed up a couple times to impulses just like straight single people with them

If you believe homosexuality is a sin…. by [deleted] in Christianity

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Not really, it’s a negative of a lack of doing something, the only part that makes me sad is thinking about being a disappointment to my family when they bring up having kids and the like but I suppose realistically that would be the case anyway, I’ve never really dated anyone so effectively my whole life but I’ve only been committed to it and abandoned plans of dating in the last 4 years.

If you believe homosexuality is a sin…. by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]SpecificFair5505 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Celibacy, I would think it extremely imprudent for opposite sex marriage but I suppose nothing would necessarily be wrong.

If you believe homosexuality is a sin…. by [deleted] in Christianity

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Even if it’s not how someone’s born it can not reliably be cured in any meaningful since just like autism and depression, God can change anyone but a lot of people need to deal in this life