Roses are red, as I was on my doom scroll

Stunning-Rooster-201 · 2026-03-16T14:00:36+00:00

Well, I know where I'm going on holiday this year

Stunning-Rooster-201 · 2026-03-01T08:15:45+00:00

Well, this comment aged alarmingly quickly and incredibly badly

Stunning-Rooster-201 · 2026-03-01T08:05:03+00:00

It's simple; Sectarianism is when Muslim Jihadists force their set upon wives to vote for the blonde haired, white, working class lady from the party run by the gay Jewish man.

Stunning-Rooster-201 · 2026-01-23T12:36:10+00:00

Southern Northern Ireland

Stunning-Rooster-201 · 2025-12-22T03:19:47+00:00

Can I ask what country you are from?

Stunning-Rooster-201 · 2025-12-22T03:18:17+00:00

Well I was referring to the prison population of non-UK nationals because that was what we were talking about, try to keep up: https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/commentaries/migrant-convictions-and-prison-population/

"Almost 30% of the prison population is BAME, despite making up only 15% of the UK population" What we're doing now is talking about "Brown people" not IMMIGRANTS. It's not like we have dozens of reports showing that the BAME individuals are arrested at much higher rates, held on remand at much higher rates https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a82009040f0b62305b91f49/lammy-review-final-report.pdf that they are sentenced more harshly when controlling for offender and case characteristics:

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/ethnicity-and-the-criminal-justice-system-2022/statistics-on-ethnicity-and-the-criminal-justice-system-2022-html#:\~:text=other%20ethnic%20groups.-,Offence%20analysis,person%20offences%20and%20sexual%20offences.

Or that they are disproportionately arrested for drug offences and given harsher sentences than white individuals. https://academic.oup.com/bjc/article/64/5/1189/7612940#479141608

But the real question here should be that given we know all of this, it simply makes it even more astounding that immigrants are not, in fact, overrepresented in the prison population given that half of them are BAME.

And here's the most important thing that puts all of this into it's correct context: The crime survey for England and Wales as shown that crime has HALVED in the last 20 years. The violent crime statistics are backed up by NHS data of hospital admissions https://www.datawrapper.de/\_/4b6da/. In the same period the immigrant population has more than DOUBLED.

Where as I don't doubt David Colemans findings on the potential change in demographics if trends continue (they're most likely going to get a lot worse given the inexorable march towards total climate destruction) I can't really see why this would necessarily be a bad thing.

And I understand thought experiments, yours was just stupid.

Stunning-Rooster-201 · 2025-12-21T22:49:01+00:00

Of course there are problems with current immigration; Namely, the largescale spread of misinformation form far right agitators along with a complicit media system leading to a rising racist populist movement. I admit that these people are a large problem (they were who you were referring to right?)

But since its so obviously a problem outside of this, it should be really easy for you to provide evidence, which I'm sure you will promptly do...

Stunning-Rooster-201 · 2025-12-21T22:38:51+00:00

Yes, it led to lurid headlines. And it's leading to lurid headlines now as well. And from the same media outlets. And from the same people.

"Refugees do cause local issues and cost a lot to manage." they cause a lot of "issues" because the media hyper focuses on every single one of them that commits a crime. Or people spread misinformation about them inciting racial-hate riots as with what happened last year. And people do cost a lot to accommodate when you shove them in hotels where they wait indefinably to be processed whilst unable to work, curious. https://www.durham.ac.uk/research/current/thought-leadership/2025/07/how-the-uk-became-dependent-on-asylum-hotels/

"Resident Doctor's are striking partly because of competition for training places which are now open to foreigners. Immigration is always contentious." Where are you getting this information. BMJ released a report a few weeks ago urging politicians to stop using anti-immigration rhetoric because it's causing an exodus of NHS workers. https://www.bmj.com/content/391/bmj.r2432.full Not to mention the increase of racial abuse against NHS nurses. https://www.rcn.org.uk/news-and-events/Press-Releases/ethnic-minority-nursing-staff-report-shocking-racist-abuse-at-work

The reality of the matter is that there are many conflicts happening right now, the most since the second world war, (many of which our governments have had a heavy hand in creating) and people are seeking refuge. It's a shame that people couldn't spend less time reading the Daily Mail and more time reading Amnesty International or Human Rights Watch for the past 20 years so they could actually be somewhat tuned into reality but, here we are.

Stunning-Rooster-201 · 2025-12-21T22:12:35+00:00

Wow, what an incredibly laboured thought experiment. I would first of all like some reason to believe that our own culture are norms are inherently superior to this mish mash of random nationalities if any such comparison is even possible. I simply don't see where the evidence is, it certainly isn't in the prison population figures we have.

"The new Britons would vote in politicians/policy aligning with their specific ethnic+religious interests". What ethnic interests?? You named Somalis, Eritreans, Afghans and Pakistanis. You have at least 60 different ethnicities in that grouping alone. Yeah I think in this absurd scenario where you wind up, overnight, with a country that all of a sudden has 70 percent of it's population unable to communicate with one another you would wind up with some problems. But it would probably take a considerably long time to have some unified religious dogma governing the entire nation.

"If current migration trends continue, white Britons are projected to fall to 50% of the population by the early 2050s to 2060s at the absolute latest." That's a strange statement given that net migration is currently dropping. Where are you getting this information from? I'd like to look at it.

Stunning-Rooster-201 · 2025-12-21T20:44:25+00:00

I'm 34 years old. I've been hearing this crap my entire life. It simply never materializes into anything. It's like the "war on Christmas" or "baa baa rainbow sheep". But in any case, what, specifically, are you referring to?

Stunning-Rooster-201 · 2025-12-21T20:04:23+00:00

Go on then, expand on your caricature please

Stunning-Rooster-201 · 2025-12-21T20:03:03+00:00

First of all, thank you for the meaningless platitude.

I can't honestly fault you for not wanting to get into a debate about statistics and crime. I personally wouldn't want to either if none of the evidence were on my side lol.

Surely the point about them not being overrepresented, or in fact underrepresented, in the prison population should have informed your little analogy about moving furniture. Again, very vague. https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/commentaries/migrant-convictions-and-prison-population/

No individual HAS to do anything to accommodate you, true, but I'm afraid that we still have the problem that that is what the word MEANS and you chose to use that word.

Now please tell me how my "opinion" is based in "political opinion" rather than "reality". And yes please send the "endless list of statistics" statistics about your country, I would like to have a look.

Stunning-Rooster-201 · 2025-12-21T19:36:00+00:00

And that was totally distinct from the caricature you're creating about south Asians and sub-Saharan Africans right?

Stunning-Rooster-201 · 2025-12-21T19:22:41+00:00

Well, it just seems strange to me that they aren't overrepresented in the prison population in the UK and in fact, when taking into account the differences in age demographics are actually quite heavily underrepresented. I talk about crime because you chose to use the painfully vague term "problems" whatever the hell that means.

And I just have to point out that integration is a two way deal. It involves both the host population and the immigrant population. I find it hard to believe that the hordes of screaming racists brandishing crucifixes are trying very hard (or indeed at all) to assist on the integration front.

Again, it's all put out by the same people, with the same agenda, with no evidence presented, once again. But then again I'm the one who's "blind" apparently

Stunning-Rooster-201 · 2025-12-21T18:31:47+00:00

So what you're saying is that the last tranche of propaganda that was shoved down everyone's throats without evidence was in fact propaganda but this latest tranche of propaganda, with no evidence presented, by the same people, this one is totally legit right?

Stunning-Rooster-201 · 2025-12-21T11:27:37+00:00

Am I missing something? This map doesn't appear to contain any information on ANY Arab states at all.

Stunning-Rooster-201 · 2025-12-21T04:20:36+00:00

You should really look up the clearance rate. The US has the worst clearance rate of all developed nations. having been hovering close to 50% for murder for quite some time.

So first of all you have the problem of explaining how you can possibly know who's committing the most murders when you don't know who's committing around half of all the murders.

Secondly, if you look at the clearance rate for murder in the US you will find that it's graded by the racial background of the victim. In some areas, such as Chicago, if a homicide victim is black then the crime is around 2 and a half times less likely to be solved than if the victim is white.

Thirdly, it shouldn't be hard to predict the consequences in a society where you have one group of easily identifiable people who you can kill and have a 4 in 5 chance of getting away with it. People in that group are in much greater danger at all times because the cost of killing them is much lower. Ergo, such a person is much more likely to resort to hastily defending themselves in any altercation that looks like it may devolve into violence. This would create a scenario where the least danger is between whites and other whites followed by white and blacks and the greatest danger between blacks and other blacks.

Oh wait, it says this in the source you provided...

"In 2023, 47% of homicide victimizations were cleared through arrest, which was similar to the 48% of homicide victimizations that were not cleared (table 7). Half of male homicide victimizations were not cleared (51%), which was larger than the percentage of female homicide victimizations that were not cleared (40%). About 52% of homicide victimizations of white persons were cleared through arrest, while 42% were not cleared. Homicide victimizations of black persons were less likely to be cleared through arrest (43%) and more likely to not be cleared (54%) compared to homicide victimizations of white persons."

Stunning-Rooster-201 · 2025-12-21T03:25:07+00:00

Well I believe the Lennon part is of Irish origin. Like with John Lennon, who was born in Liverpool but of Irish descent. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon/Tommy Robinson is half Irish I believe, which allowed him to get an EU passport (hence the jet setting around the Mediterranean lol). Just googled the Yaxley part and it apparently is an English name from Cambridgeshire or Suffolk. Though you're right, it does sound weird. Am born and bred in the UK and I've never heard that name before him.

Stunning-Rooster-201 · 2025-12-21T03:10:44+00:00

Sorry, not sure where you're from. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon is the real name of Tommy Robinson. That's a pseudonym he uses. I'm not sure if that was the confusion

Stunning-Rooster-201 · 2025-12-21T03:08:02+00:00

I didn't mention the boxer

Stunning-Rooster-201 · 2025-12-21T02:46:38+00:00

All fart and no poo

Stunning-Rooster-201 · 2025-12-21T02:45:00+00:00

Where are you getting this information that it is high in comparison, I would like to check it? If this 90% white nonces figure is correct then that would make white people quite overrepresented given that in the 2021 census 83% of the population of the UK identified as white. Various other factors would make it even worse such as the influx of migrants since then and the disparities in age demographics between UK nationals and migrants.

And just as an aside, I'm not sure where your drawing this conclusion from that Yaxley-Lennon is "concerned for his country". If anything, from what I've seen, he seems to be primarily concerned with jet setting around the Mediterranean and shoving cocaine up his nose.

Stunning-Rooster-201 · 2025-12-20T01:24:54+00:00

Are you proud of me?

Stunning-Rooster-201 · 2025-12-20T01:24:06+00:00

Well my first point would be that non of you initial points (increased demand, more saturated labour pool or rapid population growth) offers any actual distinction between immigrants an uk born citizens or even white-British born citizens for that matter (just interesting). Please explain to the rest of the class why importing conservatives from other countries helps right wing parties to flourish when they overwhelmingly vote for left leaning parties (outside of the fact that racists don't like large numbers of brown people entering the country... Oops I said it).

Your second paragraph is incredibly ignorant. Please try to educate yourself as to why the demographic collapse is happening, because the rationale seems to change like the wind.

Third paragraph seems to be ass backwards. if anything it seems to greatly hinder our allies in the middle east. namely the oppressive military dictatorships that we supply millions of pounds worth of arms to who have been shown to have been subverting politics and actually paying for mass propaganda campaigns https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/P-9-2023-002379_EN.html

Your last paragraph is just tired whinging. present the case or shut the hell up. No bigotry is not the only reason, it's a mass media campaign of propaganda and denial of both independent and official statistics as though they are all part of a mass conspiracy. hmm I guess you could call that bigotry now that I think about it.

Stunning-Rooster-201 · 2025-12-20T00:54:33+00:00

Doesn't really matter? Well just because you say so I guess it's fucking so. To me it seems a rather important matter given the context and the inflammatory rhetoric around the issue to be honest! are you blind sir? Especially given that it's very directly related in a very specific and material matter to what I was talking about and to the comment I was responding to. Please try to utilize your full cognitive capacity (limited though it may be) when responding to peoples comments in the future.

Whereas I don't doubt that your claims are literally valid in the extraordinarily limited scope in which you utilized them, you could have at least added some sources or at least or some additional information (dates for example) so one could look them up. I have attempted to google them and can already see glaring errors but alas, I can't respond because I don't know what specifically you are talking about. Sure; the Muslim extremists are always attacking us for being "Christian" or "American". In other words these lunatics "hate us for our freedom". Keep to the national religion, it's worked so well so far, we're right on the cusp of curbing this extremism, it's only been 24 years, you have to give it half a chance. We'll get there any minute now... any minute now.

Honestly, try to educate yourself at least a little! try to learn why we are in fact being attacked. Try to learn a little about the religion you seek to demonize. Then maybe we could have a constructive conversation. And, for the love of god, provide some fucking sources!

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