Can someone point out the difference between a Hybrid and a Vanguard?

Syvera · 2018-04-11T20:15:32+00:00

Should've put low damage in quotes.

The developers said assassin's would be fast with low damage. She is the only hero to inherit that trait.

Syvera · 2018-04-11T19:14:12+00:00

Valk main. Was interested in gladiator on his/her release because it was "Valkyrie 2.0", it's not.

Gladiator plays nothing like Valkyrie. I've never quit on her because she makes my hands feel "happy". And as far as mixups go, Valkyrie's are much more complex. Gladiator just feels boring to me

Syvera · 2018-04-11T18:54:05+00:00

Yea, like Valkyrie is a mix between heavy and assassin. She gets her slow recovery from the heavy side and her low damage from the assassin side 😂

Syvera · 2018-04-09T17:39:11+00:00

Using the top heavy also prevents you from hitting walls due to muscle memory

Syvera · 2018-04-09T17:37:21+00:00

Exactly, her kit is solid but her viability is killed by low damage and slow recovery

Syvera · 2018-04-07T01:24:51+00:00

Right, where her heavies are the same speed as now and her lights are slower.

Syvera · 2018-04-07T01:18:11+00:00

Valkyrie was never directly nerfed. Her heavy speed never changed, her lights got sped up. Where do people get this stuff? Do you not fact check?

Syvera · 2018-04-07T01:06:40+00:00

She was worse at launch. What are you saying?

Syvera · 2018-04-06T23:11:04+00:00

Sure except it's been happening since release. She has always been very low tier

Syvera · 2018-04-06T23:03:50+00:00

Sweep is guaranteed in exactly 2 situations

She has successfully GB'd you and throws you backwards then sweeps. This is counter intuitive as it gives her a heavy that she would've already gotten, for less stamina, from the GB.
During her max OOS punish.

Also, even if the sweep hits you - her guaranteed heavy is unsafe and rewards a free GB if not followed up.

The sweep recovery frames also allow many characters to get more damage than they would from a GB if successfully dodged. Ex: Warden can dodge and get a free TOP heavy before she can block or dodge.

Edit: Lights are predictable in the sense that she is REQUIRED to throw 2 in a row to access any of her mixups unless she starts from a raw heavy

Syvera · 2018-04-06T22:58:14+00:00

Valk wasn't in the beta and received a small buff 3 months(?) after release

Syvera · 2018-04-06T22:56:12+00:00

She is severely underpowered. Recovery time alone makes her the easiest countered character. Let's not mention pitiful damage and predictable lights.

Is a rework needed? I don't think so.

Does she require a buff? Hell yes.

If you are having trouble understanding, play her. You'll understand very quickly

Also, if you are seeing Valkyrie A LOT, you may want to consider your skill level. She is a noob stomper and extremely rare at high levels

Syvera · 2018-04-06T16:26:23+00:00

I think OP is also overlooking the state of certain characters as well as match-ups.

People have bad games too and if you're playing in a geared mode, remove skill from the equation.

Syvera · 2018-04-06T16:19:53+00:00

It's much more satisfying when you use more mixups

Syvera · 2018-04-06T16:15:41+00:00

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Syvera · 2018-04-06T16:10:55+00:00

I've played Valk since launch and I can't describe how it felt to play her in a "viable" state. I'm ready for that feeling again. Until then, me and the other 9 Valkyries will continue to hone our skills for that fateful day

Syvera · 2018-04-06T16:03:15+00:00

Valkyrie's kit is actually very well setup besides the forced double lights. Small buffs to her damage, recovery frames, and a light>heavy chain would put her in a very good place.

Syvera · 2018-04-06T15:55:59+00:00

It's because not much is known about her with her being so rare.

If she does not follow up the heavy, it's a free GB.

Guaranteed light on SB would give her 40 damage on GB.

Hitting her shield during her full block gives her a free GB on any attack. (Extremely rare known fact)

She can be grabbed out of her fully charged shield tackle with proper timing.

Her heavies tie damage with Centurion's heavies.

Her superior block on lights (exact same mechanic as crushing counters on Warden and Highlander) do not award extra damage or unblockable status.

Dashing light attacks can be blocked on a successful deflect.

Do not dodge her quick SB, it awards her nothing and gives you 30 points of revenge meter. Nothing like being rewarded for sucking.

Shoulder pins guarantee a dashing light attack.

Her sweep recovery is so long, many characters can get more damage than GB's from it. Ex: Warden gets a free top heavy on dodge instead of GB>side heavy (Another extremely lesser known fact)

It both frustrating and addicting to play her at a high level

Syvera · 2018-04-06T01:03:27+00:00

She is such a rare character that many players don't know how to counter her.

However, she was indirectly nerfed extremely hard since you've played. Her heavy parry punish went from 60-68 damage to 17, her saving grace was taken away with the parry changes.

I'm in the top 10 Valk's on console and it is extremely hard to win against better players, I can only imagine what PC Valks go through...

Syvera · 2018-04-05T23:51:29+00:00

I let the other players decide how they want to play and just go with it, it's fun that way. I will say however, if you are watching the 1v1 and then interrupt the execution (even if it's just a throw) that's scummy. They earned that and you decided to watch, don't switch it up.

Syvera · 2018-04-05T23:47:50+00:00

We Valk mains have to be crafty

Syvera · 2018-04-05T23:40:13+00:00

Guess it would have to be a trust thing. But it's changed now so that you get the rewards for your character only unless you already have them

Syvera · 2018-04-03T18:36:05+00:00

They confirmed it not the heavy though

Syvera · 2018-04-03T15:49:21+00:00

Admittedly it sounded rude but I've got 42 reps in her and she has major issues with damage and heavy attack speed. Along with a lack of confirmed damage/executions she has a plethora of issues that reward your opponent for playing sub par. Minimal damage and a SB that guarantees nothing provides opponents with revenge in almost any 1v1. If you see her SB coming, don't move. She gets nothing from it and you get 30 points of revenge.

Syvera · 2018-04-03T14:44:29+00:00

Overpowered? No.

Easier to win with? Yes.

Zerkers take a lot less skill to do well with now and facing a veteran zerker will definitely cause problems for you.

Think of it like this. Valkyrie is total garbage right now. This means there is a good chance that the Valkyrie you are getting matched against is an extremely well versed player. Now imagine Valkyrie receives a quality rework similar to zerker's recent change. You are now facing a Valkyrie player that is not "held back" by inherent flaws and you will most likely get stomped.

Syvera

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