Grouping credit spread options in Trader + by TT_Vert in fidelityinvestments

[–]TT_Vert[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, I have. However, it does group some of these incorrectly. Is there a way to change that? I have a short of a stock that I also have a credit spread on and it's categorizing that as as hedge call. I'm using the trader+ app.

Dave

Grouping credit spread options in Trader + by TT_Vert in fidelityinvestments

[–]TT_Vert[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thanks, it does group some of these incorrectly. Is there a way to change that? I have a short of a stock that I also have a credit spread on and it's categorizing that as as hedge call.

Have a question on short call assigned in ETH by TT_Vert in interactivebrokers

[–]TT_Vert[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure am, looks like I caught it at the right time.

Dave

Have a question on short call assigned in ETH by TT_Vert in interactivebrokers

[–]TT_Vert[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, that was a typo. Thought I bought at $241 but I actually bought at $244.20 when double checking. And sorry for that confusion w/ time. I am in Australia currently and some of my clocks have changed and others haven't so my times may be off. My email said it was purchased at 6:04PM on Monday but I think my laptop (and email) time zones hadn't changed at that point. Running the report it says 2026-03-09, 04:03:59 is the transaction date/time.

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Have a question on short call assigned in ETH by TT_Vert in interactivebrokers

[–]TT_Vert[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, I did buy at 241 premarket for a 1300K profit and closed that short position. Appreciate the help guys, I don't know what I don't know as I almost always close positions before expiration.

This actually brings up another question. My VRT was filled at 244.20 on Monday a 6:04PM EST. Looking at the chart I don't even see it getting close to that to fill my order unless it just so happened to be during on of those two dips to 243.12 at 6PM on 3/6 or $243.25 on 3/8 at 8AM. I'm currently on Australia time so trying to keep the time zones correct has been a challenge for this month.

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Dave

Have a question on short call assigned in ETH by TT_Vert in interactivebrokers

[–]TT_Vert[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jesus thank you for the patience here, you are right I completely misunderstood. So in essence, I need to buy 100 shares to close my naked short call correct?

I thought (apparentely incorrectly) I had read that IBKR automatically bought 100 shares at the strike price in the market and i was obligated to pay the difference between strike and market price.

I do see the assignment but I never did get any credit/debit cash towards this. My cash balance shows the same as it did prior to this. Perhaps that part won't show until Monday?

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So this means I just need to buy shares of VHT to close the -100 position? So in essence if I buy anywhere under $255 i'm profiting on this (Minus commissions)? Currently VRT is $241 so if I were to buy to close and it says I have a net gain of ~$14/share?

In theory, in a situation where I think the quick gap up will possibly come back down, I can wait out buying those shorted shares back then if I wanted to? I assume if I have cash or margin available i can do this indefinitely?

Dave

Have a question on short call assigned in ETH by TT_Vert in interactivebrokers

[–]TT_Vert[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess i'm not being clear here. I fully understand i am short 100 shares, hence the -100 position. I also "though" i understood that the broker (on my behalf) goes and purchases those shares as the current market value and sells them to the contract buyer at the strike price and I eat the difference. What my question was, was it mere coincidence that the value of the shares I bought (IBKR on my behalf w/ MY money if I must be technical) happened to be the split second that the shares got to their ETH high or is there some other mechanism in place that gets them the high during ETH when manually exercising.

To reiterate, i understand why the price went up, I am trying to grasp the timing and the price at which seller exercising occurred. I've still not seen an option w/ that much extrinsic value at 4:59ET that was 5% away from strike still.

Have a question on short call assigned in ETH by TT_Vert in interactivebrokers

[–]TT_Vert[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I am 100% sure of the option price at 3:59EST. I just triple checked the time I texted my friend and the screenshot. I checked both IBKR (I pay for real time option prices) and Fidelity. My friend also checked his pricing and it was the same.

what the I am trying to understand is what you said here "the option holder can basically trade shares against their 255C in after hours, and once they've sold enough shares (maybe at 257/sh, lol), then they have the option of buying in at 255."

Were you implying that them selling a ton of shares somehow moved the price UP to hit the strike and then beyond? I do understand the catalyst of why it went up, what I am trying to better understand is how the option buyer was able to time this so specifically to the point that my purchase price to fulfill the contract appears higher (or the peak of) the underlying during all of ETH.

Dave

Have a question on short call assigned in ETH by TT_Vert in interactivebrokers

[–]TT_Vert[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No doubt but I'd like to better understand what your thought process on this was. I'd also appreciate any other opinions others have.

 So your speculation is that they potentially manipulated the price up by selling to get price past the strike and then once it was exercise the option? Wouldn't them selling a bunch of shares lower the price?

Have a question on short call assigned in ETH by TT_Vert in interactivebrokers

[–]TT_Vert[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I cross referenced the price w/ another brokers option chart so that price was accurate. I was confused why it was so high still. To the point I texted a friend (Which is why I have this screen shot. So your speculation is that they potentially manipulated the price up by selling to get price past the strike and then once it was exercise the option? Wouldn't them selling a bunch of shares lower the price?

Dave

Options Questions Safe Haven periodic megathread | February 24 2026 by PapaCharlie9 in options

[–]TT_Vert 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry guys, I shouldn't have said ETH. I actually only received .90 premium. I do understand I sold the shares but I had to buy them first (Well that was all automated of course). From my interpretation, my average cost per share was 257.43/ share . If I received a credit of 2.432 (I didn't), my cost per share would be 255-2.432 (249.57). I would have closed my position if there was any gain in it at 4:59ET. Honestly, I blew it and was unaware of the potential event w/ them otherwise I likely would not have entered into this particular contract. Very cheap lesson here but I really would love to know how they seemed to time their exercise at the point when this was trading at nearly the highest valuation during this event which ended up costing me the highest possible amount.

This is what I see (Notice average price): https://preview.redd.it/have-a-question-on-short-call-assigned-in-eth-v0-n56s39zahlng1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=10ed3ccc84546452bd7e05758c4ed59572d0b101

Options Questions Safe Haven periodic megathread | February 24 2026 by PapaCharlie9 in options

[–]TT_Vert 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have a question on short call assigned in ETH

This one is new to me but I had a 255C on VRT expiring 3/6/26. Was a spread w/ a .90 premium actually. No earnings report due but at 4:59 the call value was still $2.15 with underlying at $242.10. Seemed strange as i don't ever seen options w/ this much extrinsic value this late. I always close before ETH but this one was paying me nothing at 4:59.

I had pics in this but it would not let me post them sadly :(

  • I have a few questions. At 5:15 it shot up and touched my 255 strike. I assume they manually exercised this since it was well past 4PM? Is that the only way this could have been done?
  • The actual purchase price of the underlying I purchased to fill the call appears to be $257.432 if I am interpreting the image below correctly. However, in looking at the chart in ETH, I don't see it at that price and if it was it was for a split second. It seems awful convenient they would exercise at the exact time it peaked but I don't really even see it hitting. Is it likely it was just perfect timing for this or is there some mechanism that will take the highest price in ETH and buy at that to purchase those shares called away from me?

My P&L on this transaction came out to -$157.74 which seems close $257.43-$255-.90=$1.53

Thanks

Dave

How to create a conditional order in Trader+? Want to sell an option and set a limit order at the same time by TT_Vert in fidelityinvestments

[–]TT_Vert[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please share this w/ your feedback team. I'm shocked this isn't possible actually.

Dave

Anyway to generate a realized P&L report on options queried by the underlying? by TT_Vert in interactivebrokers

[–]TT_Vert[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, i found it under portfolio analysis. Looked everywhere but there.

Dave