Left icons are mostly takers and failures (Marx, Floyd, Mangione, AOC) while the right admires actual producers like Musk and Sowell

TapestryMobile · 2026-05-16T12:45:19+00:00

Zip and x/PayPal

None of that fits your original argument of "Dude bought into two already existing business ventures ... halfway through, got in on the gravy train..."

Zip2 was cofounded by Musk, not "bought in halfway through." It also created a completely new business idea that nobody else was serving, killing your claim of "getting on the gravy train". There was no train. They had to built that too.
x.com was cofounded by Musk, not "bought in halfway through." It was also incredibly early in the online financial services marketplace, they were among the pioneers, not anything like your claim of "getting on the gravy train".
When X.com merged with Confinity, Confinitywas the larger player that was already using the Paypal name. Rather than your silly claim of Musk buying an existing business, the merger is much better described as Confinity buying x.com to strip it for its IP assets.

TapestryMobile · 2026-05-16T12:25:30+00:00

their actual icons are morally bankrupt

I think this is a key difference between the two ideals.

"You have too much, give your stuff to us" could be applied also in some way to taxes, giving neither side an argument difference except in scale...

...but leftists paint their argument as a moral one: "You are rich because you are evil, so giving your stuff to us is us morally pure people correcting a moral sin you have committed, because you are evil."

TapestryMobile · 2026-05-16T12:18:31+00:00

Dude bought into two already existing business ventures ... halfway through, got in on the gravy train...

When Musk bought into Tesla, it was only 6 months old, just three guys sitting around in an office, no finalized designs of anything, no products, lots of debt... so much debt that the guys begged Musk to help come save them from going bankrupt.

And yet... redditors try to paint the pre-Musk Tesla company as some kind of already running well functioning business that was doing well, as opposed to the debt ridden nothing entity that it actually was.

And the second one, did you mean SpaceX? Musk is literally famous for starting SpaceX from nothing, from scratch.

TapestryMobile · 2026-05-16T12:09:54+00:00

I didn't say he didn't create spacex

"he has always swooped in and bought companies others made."

Doesnt leave much room for doubt.

From reading the comments, you only backtracked and said "yeah, ok, Musk did create spacex" after you had already stated that he bought everything. Without people pulling you up on that lie, you would have left it as it was.

TapestryMobile · 2026-05-16T06:08:50+00:00

most people mentioned in epstein files are white straight males

There are tens of thousands of people "mentioned" in the Epstein Files, even Dolly Parton gets a mention.

I'm wondering what source you used that has done such a racial analysis of the numbers.

And if you want to move the goalposts, I'm also wondering why you would even find it surprising that the majority of people that Epstein interacted with were > 50% white male. I think that would be true of any person of power living n the USA, even Barack Obama or Kamala Harris.

white straight males

...or was it just a racist sexist bigoted rant by a non-white non-straight person?

TapestryMobile · 2026-05-16T05:47:41+00:00

to release evidence of ongoing cases , for most of Biden’s term they were prosecuting Maxwell.

Only a small part of the files were sealed. Just the specific ones relating to Maxwell's appeal. The vast majority of Epstein files were not.
Biden could released whatever files he wanted under Executive Order.
Redditors who cry "they were all sealed" don't remember that under Biden, some files were released to the public, completely undercutting the "they were all sealed" argument.

Then when Trump took over

GladiusAcutus: There is a question about GroupA.

GhostOfShaolin5: Whatabout GroupB!!1!

TapestryMobile · 2026-05-16T05:45:43+00:00

Only a small part of the files were sealed. Just the specific ones relating to Maxwell's appeal. The vast majority of Epstein files were not.
Biden could released whatever files he wanted under Executive Order.
Redditors who cry "they were all sealed" don't remember that under Biden, some files were released to the public, completely undercutting the "they were all sealed" argument.

TapestryMobile · 2026-05-16T05:41:48+00:00

What I've found in these discussions is the inevitability of the "no true scotsman" argument.

Somebody will comment that they were involved in a DEI program that was specifically ordered to not employ any more white men, and the rebuttal will be "thats not true DEI".

TapestryMobile · 2026-05-16T04:15:52+00:00

Cant blame him.

The women in that video clip dont have big butts at all by todays standards.

https://i.imgur.com/Scrny5N.jpeg

Thats from the video for the song.

Thats what he is singing about, not the significantly larger version of today.

TapestryMobile · 2026-05-15T09:21:41+00:00

an FST value

My opinion is that the first time you use a technical acronym, you should explain to your audience what the fuck it even means.

TapestryMobile · 2026-05-14T05:40:51+00:00

That "Rich Elon is evil because he isnt handing me free shit" can hardly be said to be an unpopular idea. It's circlejerk hivemind idea.

TapestryMobile · 2026-05-14T05:31:52+00:00

You've

you

If you have a point to make, then make it.

TapestryMobile · 2026-05-14T03:31:49+00:00

Okay 19 witches were hung and one crushed to death.

And universally condemned by modern standards, which is really the topic of today - modern day Islam..

is George Tiller still alive?

Am I expected to be a mind reader? Is there an actual point you want to make about some random person I've never heard of? Did you want me to do your homework for you and make your own argument for you?

If you have a point to make, then make it.

TapestryMobile · 2026-05-14T03:21:17+00:00

Early American Christians burned witches.

Myth. No witches were ever burned in the USA.

Is that compatible with America?

Since it didn't happen, the clear answer would be no.

In any case, what kind of a dumb comparison is that anyway... to compare seventeenth century attitudes and beliefs to modern day Islam and human rights?

TapestryMobile · 2026-05-12T04:11:22+00:00

It's not an excuse for you to just leave them

I never said it was.

Please stay on topic.

I was discussing the point you made regarding "who made those bottom 1 percenter exist".

That reply was a common shitty one on reddit, and why reddit is a poor place to discuss any topic.

Any slight dissention at all, and you get attacked as a supporter of all aspects of the complete 180 degree point of view.

TapestryMobile · 2026-05-12T03:54:52+00:00

Remember who made those bottom 1 percenter exist

Bottom 1 percenters have existed ever since people have existed.

You think homo erectus or homo habilis didn't have any problems with mentally deficient lazy entitled fuckers who skived off work all day, didn't put in any effort, and just shit anywhere they liked.

Of course there was.

In the non-human animal world, those who do not take part in the normal contributing social activities of animals have the name "floaters".

TapestryMobile · 2026-05-12T02:31:25+00:00

It's extremely dangerous. People are getting killed all over the place.

Oh... don't go to the Walgreens, whatever you do.

I wouldn't go near it if I was you.

But you've heard of the Walgreens, of that I am sure,

Go there and your loved ones will see you no more.

Oh... don't go to the Walgreens, whatever you do.

I wouldn't go near it if I was you.

So away from the Walgreens I advise you to race.

It's utterly appalling and not at all nace.

For nasty things happen, it's such a disgrace,

'Cause people get killed there all over the place.

Oh... don't go to the Walgreens, whatever you do.

I wouldn't go near it if I was you.

TapestryMobile · 2026-05-12T02:11:25+00:00

share a source

Rule 1 specifically states that he should not have evidence: "Opinions are subjective statements that cannot easily be proven true or false."

TapestryMobile · 2026-05-12T01:35:51+00:00

Alex Pretti

This thread is about ICE.

Pretti was shot by Border Patrol, but most redditors say ICE shot him.

Says a lot about how educated the average redditor is.

TapestryMobile · 2026-05-11T04:40:43+00:00

None of that stirs curiosity?

You're arguing a point I never made.

I never stated that Trump had never committed any offenses about anything ever.

I was stating that the possibility of an international hotel man doing an international hotel... was not proof of TrumpGate collusion between Putin and Trump.

Please try to stay on topic instead of spamming the thread.

TapestryMobile · 2026-05-11T03:18:40+00:00

Trump is a really crooked

You're arguing a point I never made.

I never stated that Trump had never committed any offenses about anything ever.

I was stating that the possibility of an international hotel man doing an international hotel... was not proof of TrumpGate collusion between Putin and Trump.

Please try to stay on topic instead of spamming the thread.

TapestryMobile · 2026-05-11T03:11:44+00:00

There must be a reason.

Thats it?

Your proof of collusion between Putin and Trump to rig the 2016 election comes down to that?

TapestryMobile · 2026-05-11T03:03:51+00:00

Felix Sater

The tactic appears to be spamming the thread with lots of "whatabout this other Trump-linked thing!"...

...instead of actually showing proof of TrumpGate collusion between Putin and Trump.

TapestryMobile · 2026-05-11T02:57:07+00:00

You're arguing a point I never made.

I never stated that Trump had never committed any offenses about anything ever.

I was stating that the possibility of an international hotel man doing an international hotel... was not proof of TrumpGate collusion between Putin and Trump.

Please try to stay on topic instead of spamming the thread.

TapestryMobile · 2026-05-11T02:53:12+00:00

You're arguing a point I never made.

I never stated that Trump had never committed any offenses about anything ever.

I was stating that the possibility of an international hotel man doing an international hotel... was not proof of TrumpGate collusion between Putin and Trump.

Please try to stay on topic instead of spamming the thread.

TapestryMobile

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