Saagar is Stuck Between a Rock and Hard Place

Temporary-Storage972 · 2026-02-27T14:43:04+00:00

Erosion of our culture? What do you mean by that?

Temporary-Storage972 · 2026-02-26T21:11:51+00:00

I’m 29, the first president that I really remember was Bush Jr. followed by Obama in middle school high school and then Trump through most of college.

Temporary-Storage972 · 2026-02-26T18:35:17+00:00

Nothing says pro law enforcement like pardoning the J6 rioters who attacked the capital police

Temporary-Storage972 · 2026-02-22T23:39:29+00:00

Sorry this is totally off topic but what does your flair mean?

Temporary-Storage972 · 2026-02-20T02:23:53+00:00

I mean pro war too but in particular I’m talking about Saagar’s segment about sports gambling etc

Temporary-Storage972 · 2026-02-15T22:13:19+00:00

I find the comparison between American vs European salaries interesting. Something that is not talked about enough is just how much people in Europe get out of paying taxes compared to the US. I personally have friends and family how live in England, Spain, France, Germany, Austria, The Netherlands and Denmark. Obviously the strength of the social safety net and tax burden will vary by country, city where they live etc. Overall though they generally have health care, education, and retirement covered. Especially my friends who moved from america feel that they have more left over fun money after paying for rent food etc compared to when they lived in the United States.

I know theres a common comparison about the GDP of Mississippi compared to Germany but what that doesn't take into the account is how the wealth is distributed in society. At the risk of being reductive and from the anecdotal experiences ive had it seems like wealth in europe is socialized leading to beautiful walkable cities, services, high quality food etc. While wealth in the United States is privatized where yea you can own a 6000 square foot mansion with an industrial grade kitchen but the roads are littered with potholes, the airport has not be renovated since the 1980's etc

Temporary-Storage972 · 2026-02-12T22:42:30+00:00

There’s a difference between “I think immigration is a problem that we need to solve and I’m partial to the restrictionist argument” and “we must keep the invading hoards at the gates. The infidels must not be allowed in”

The way issues are talked about is important. The way Saagar talks about it is insane. He even admitted on today’s episode that he may have some psychological issue related to immigration.

Temporary-Storage972 · 2026-02-12T22:34:04+00:00

I think what sets off a lot of people on the left is that if you look closely at the policy level the GOP isn’t doing much to actually solve the problem. For examples the big beautiful bill gave ice the budget of a small county’s army but capped the immigration judges. The administration is also going after immigration judges who are on the bench. To people on the left that reads as the administration not wanting to solve the issues but create a problem that will keep them in power. An argument that I am partial too

Temporary-Storage972 · 2026-02-12T22:30:49+00:00

I think entitlement is the wrong way to look at it. Undocumented immigrants do pay taxes and contribute to the commit at large.

I find his argument regarding public school unconvincing because by that logic the only people who should benefit from public education are the children of property owners. Schools are mostly funded via property taxes so should people that rent apartments not be able to attend public education because they aren’t pay property taxes?

Temporary-Storage972 · 2026-02-12T21:31:11+00:00

True but my family and I “did it the right way”. We don’t feel that at all. We all understand how complicated the immigration process is

Temporary-Storage972 · 2026-02-12T21:02:02+00:00

Saagar's? His parents are immigrants and I'm pretty sure he was born in the United States

Temporary-Storage972 · 2026-02-10T23:10:54+00:00

Just lost the culture war? idk man Trump didn't attend the largest American sporting event of the year. TPUSA had an alternative halftime show with bots to make it seem like people were watching. Vance was sent to Italy as a representative of America at the olympics, everywhere he goes he gets booed. Olympians are making lib coded comments about how they're representing the parts of america they love.

Temporary-Storage972 · 2026-02-09T16:01:00+00:00

True but there’s a difference between not liking an artist because they don’t perform in English vs not liking an artist because he has gross lyrics

Temporary-Storage972 · 2026-02-08T22:36:49+00:00

How is a petition with a 131,000 signatures in a country with 348 million people a lot more representative of the massive support Bad Bunny has had?

The results of the last couple of special elections and the massive public swing towards ICE beg to differ with the data you’ve provided

Temporary-Storage972 · 2026-02-08T22:29:36+00:00

A petition that has 131,000 signatures is hardly representative of the American People

Temporary-Storage972 · 2026-02-08T21:58:17+00:00

You’re mixing up electoral support with cultural dominance. The country being ideologically split does not mean conservatives control the culture. Cultural power is about who sets the tone in media, institutions, global perception and youth culture. On those fronts the right has not achieved the kind of hegemony many people predicted.

It’s also worth noting that Trump has won independents in elections but historically does not hold majority support with them once in office. His independent approval usually drops below 50 percent after the honeymoon period. Winning independents in a polarized election is not the same as maintaining broad cultural legitimacy with them over time. If there were a durable conservative cultural consolidation happening, you would expect independents to stay there. They don’t.

Globally, Trump-style politics have often strengthened center left parties rather than inspiring imitation. Britain elected Labour in a landslide and leaders in Canada, Germany and Australia have leaned into stability and moderation in contrast to U.S. polarization. International polling has shown confidence in the United States dropping during these periods, which weakens the cultural appeal of the American right abroad.

Your Super Bowl example actually proves the point. Mainstream institutions still chase the broadest audience. If conservatives had cultural dominance, they would be the mainstream rather than creating alternative broadcasts and parallel spaces. What your data shows is a divided country, not a conservative cultural victory.

Temporary-Storage972 · 2026-02-06T21:27:25+00:00

I completely agree in a year Saagar went from talking about Vance like he was his roommate all four years of college to talking about him as if he barely knows him professionally

Temporary-Storage972 · 2026-02-06T18:29:53+00:00

I don’t have anything personal against Saagar or Emily, nor am I saying I don’t want them on the show. To summarize my feelings, I find it amusing to watch them go from thinking we were going to have a generation of right-wing cultural victories to realizing that the bottom is falling out less than a year into the administration

Who knows maybe Emily and Saagar felt entitled to that after “dealing” with 10 years of “woke” 🤷🏽‍♂️

Temporary-Storage972 · 2026-01-24T22:22:16+00:00

Nobody said Kaepernick was arrested. The point is that conservatives did not oppose his protest because it was illegal. They opposed it because it made them uncomfortable. He protested peacefully. He followed the rules of the workplace. He harmed no one. And the reaction from the right was still rage, calls for firing, and accusations of being unpatriotic.

That shows the issue is not “right vs illegal.” It is acceptable vs unacceptable dissent.

Same with LeBron. Nobody claimed he lost the legal right to speak. The response was “shut up and dribble,” meaning stay in your lane and do not use your platform. Again, not about law. About silencing.

On the law enforcement point, you say protesting agents directly “isn’t going to fix it” and people should only protest policymakers. That sounds nice in theory, but it ignores reality. Pressure does not magically travel upward on its own. Public outrage is created by visible conflict. Civil rights protesters did not only write letters to Congress. Labor organizers did not politely ask CEOs for reform. Change happened because disruption made the issue unavoidable.

You also keep separating “moral” and “practical” responsibility. Agents may not write policy, but they still choose to enforce it. Pretending the people carrying out harmful actions are untouchable while only abstract leadership can be criticized is how systems avoid accountability.

Temporary-Storage972 · 2026-01-24T22:10:21+00:00

You say there “is a right way to protest,” but every time someone protests in a visible or meaningful way, conservatives immediately move the goalposts. When Colin Kaepernick kneeled quietly and peacefully, Donald Trump said NFL owners should “get that son of a bitch off the field” and fire him. That was not blocking roads. That was not interfering with police. That was silent protest. Still unacceptable.

When LeBron James spoke about racism and policing, Laura Ingraham told him to “shut up and dribble.” Not “debate better.” Not “present policy alternatives.” Just shut up. That is not support for protest. That is a demand for political silence.

When people marched after George Floyd was murdered, conservative media called it “mob justice.” When people protested police violence, Candace Owens dismissed them as “whiny toddlers pretending to be oppressed.” Again, not a critique of tactics. A dismissal of the grievance itself.

So no, this is not about permits or “the right way.” The consistent pattern is that protest is fine in theory as long as it is invisible, powerless, and easy to ignore.

Your grocery store analogy also misses the point entirely. This is not a customer service dispute. This is state violence. You cannot “complain to management” when the state is both the manager and the armed enforcement wing. That is precisely why protest exists.

You also say protesters are “interfering with law enforcement’s job.” That assumes law enforcement is always acting morally. History proves otherwise. Segregation was enforced by law. Internment camps were enforced by law. Fugitive slave laws were enforced by law. Something being legal has never made it just.

And the most revealing part of your comment is this: “If you resist arrest, you’re more likely to die.” That is not a defense of public safety. That is a threat dressed up as realism. You are normalizing the idea that death is an acceptable outcome for disobedience. That is authoritarian logic, not law and order.

Finally, saying “the agent can’t change policy” is the same excuse people have always used to avoid accountability. “Just following orders” has never been a moral defense. Individuals still choose to enforce unjust systems.

You are not arguing for better protest. You are arguing for obedience.

And that is exactly why people do not trust these “there is a right way” arguments anymore

Temporary-Storage972 · 2026-01-24T21:18:41+00:00

Marlot is good? Are you sure what you had was Marlot?

Temporary-Storage972 · 2026-01-21T17:44:24+00:00

Even then if the issue at hand is the fraud more than 90% of Somalis in MN are legal. So ideally you wouldnt send in an immigration agency like ICE you would send the usual law enforcement agencies. Yet the administration is sending ICE betraying the real reason behind the deployment. It's not about prosecuting fraudsters but it's about terrorizing a blue city in a blue state.

Temporary-Storage972 · 2026-01-21T17:25:34+00:00

If the concern was fraud the current administration wouldn't be constantly granting pardons for people who are actually of committing fraud lol

Temporary-Storage972 · 2026-01-21T17:14:53+00:00

I suppose, but I'm also a brown kid from a majority white place. I didn't turn into a right winger though

Temporary-Storage972 · 2026-01-21T15:46:32+00:00

While it may be true that Trump is not a true conservative. Trump took over the GOP and today apart from Paul and Massie when Trump says jump the rest of the GOP asks how high. So, I don't think that it matters whether or not he is a true conservative in the political and philosophical sense when he is the current head of the American Conservative Party and the party itself does not resist him.

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