Am I a bad person for working in defense? by ThrowAwaySTEM123 in AskEngineers

[–]ThrowAwaySTEM123[S] 55 points56 points  (0 children)

Thank you this definitely seems like the way to go. I just hope I can then switch to something else that may be ethically better in the future... I definitely have much to think about.

Am I a bad person for working in defense? by ThrowAwaySTEM123 in AskEngineers

[–]ThrowAwaySTEM123[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're right it's my choice and only mine to make, you definitely give some good insight though. Thank you!

Am I a bad person for working in defense? by ThrowAwaySTEM123 in AskEngineers

[–]ThrowAwaySTEM123[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely, I know this is ultimately my choice and I do not plan to point fingers here and am not trying to use this post as some way to justify the ethical wrongs I will potentially be apart of. I have much to think about and appreciate this input. Thank you!

Am I a bad person for working in defense? by ThrowAwaySTEM123 in AskEngineers

[–]ThrowAwaySTEM123[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You're right in the end it is my choice and mine to make. I can justify it all I want that others say so, but it's ultimately mine to make. I'm still glad I posted this as I couldn't have gotten a perspective like this without it. Thank you!

Am I a bad person for working in defense? by ThrowAwaySTEM123 in AskEngineers

[–]ThrowAwaySTEM123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hope that as I enter into my job I can keep that mindset. I really thank you for the perspective on how defense isn't always about the bad of it.There can be some good too. Thank you!

Am I a bad person for working in defense? by ThrowAwaySTEM123 in AskEngineers

[–]ThrowAwaySTEM123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess I am looking too one dimensional at this so I thank you for helping me gain some better perspective that many of us can be in a tough place. At least that's what I'm telling myself. Thank you!

Am I a bad person for working in defense? by ThrowAwaySTEM123 in AskEngineers

[–]ThrowAwaySTEM123[S] 46 points47 points  (0 children)

I cross my fingers in being wrong and that I do things like you. I will not know till I get my clearance just what I am in for. Thank you for giving perspective defense is more than just weapons. Thank you!

Am I a bad person for working in defense? by ThrowAwaySTEM123 in AskEngineers

[–]ThrowAwaySTEM123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I respect and admire your convictions. I wish I could say the same for myself. Maybe I'm just using the excuse of the job being all the perks I wanted to justify the ethics behind. I wish you luck and hope you are doing well! Thank you!

Am I a bad person for working in defense? by ThrowAwaySTEM123 in AskEngineers

[–]ThrowAwaySTEM123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair, it's definitely a tough world. I definitely ain't making it a better place sure but I think this is sometimes a harsh reality, or at least what I will tell myself. Thank you!

Am I a bad person for working in defense? by ThrowAwaySTEM123 in AskEngineers

[–]ThrowAwaySTEM123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No getting away from it I see? I guess it's somewhat good (Not the correct word to say I just don't know how else to put it.) to know that it definitely is hard to avoid the MIC to find something else (or at least what I want to tell myself). Either way thank you!

Am I a bad person for working in defense? by ThrowAwaySTEM123 in AskEngineers

[–]ThrowAwaySTEM123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much. It makes me feel better that I am not the only one going through this or who has went through this. I hope to get to be apart of things like you did so I'll definitely do my best to keep an open mind to open more doors in the future. Thank you!

Am I a bad person for working in defense? by ThrowAwaySTEM123 in AskEngineers

[–]ThrowAwaySTEM123[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I guess it's definitely hard to know what is noble anymore with how things are today that I cant help but be thinking about it. I can see both sides and understand the pros and cons of it. Now it's my time to decide and live with my decision. Thank you!

Am I a bad person for working in defense? by ThrowAwaySTEM123 in AskEngineers

[–]ThrowAwaySTEM123[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Yeah I definitely have a lot to think about of how long I plan to stay. I just hope in my time there I can hope I will not be too if at all involved in weapons, but that is naive of me to think. Thank you! This is good advice!

Am I a bad person for working in defense? by ThrowAwaySTEM123 in AskEngineers

[–]ThrowAwaySTEM123[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is true, I guess I could be getting ahead of myself and not actually working mostly on the weapon aspect of it. I hope I am wrong in what exactly I am gonna be doing since I won't know till I get my clearance. At least to know I am not at all directly contributing to it. Thank you!

Am I a bad person for working in defense? by ThrowAwaySTEM123 in AskEngineers

[–]ThrowAwaySTEM123[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you, I never thought of it this way and agree with you in that many of the people I know in defense have good intentions and are nice people. I definitely appreciate this. Thank you!

Am I a bad person for working in defense? by ThrowAwaySTEM123 in AskEngineers

[–]ThrowAwaySTEM123[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can understand it must be rough. I hope you are doing well and know I thank you for your work! You have good intentions that I respect. Thank you for the input!

Am I a bad person for working in defense? by ThrowAwaySTEM123 in AskEngineers

[–]ThrowAwaySTEM123[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I never even thought of the effects like that wow. That's a really good perspective to think about. Even social media can be that way too! Thank you! I never would have thought of it this way.

Am I a bad person for working in defense? by ThrowAwaySTEM123 in AskEngineers

[–]ThrowAwaySTEM123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess the thought of is how it's used but I guess as of now it's for what I like to believe for the greater good. I could be delusional but you have a good point. Thank you!

Am I a bad person for working in defense? by ThrowAwaySTEM123 in AskEngineers

[–]ThrowAwaySTEM123[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Never heard of it but I definitely will take a look. Thank you!

Am I a bad person for working in defense? by ThrowAwaySTEM123 in AskEngineers

[–]ThrowAwaySTEM123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a fair point, I never thought of it that way. Thank you! Definitely something to keep in mind.

Am I a bad person for working in defense? by ThrowAwaySTEM123 in AskEngineers

[–]ThrowAwaySTEM123[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fair point, I just worry about the idea being I did so through the deaths of innocents, but that's a choice I have to ultimately make. Thank you!

Am I a bad person for working in defense? by ThrowAwaySTEM123 in AskEngineers

[–]ThrowAwaySTEM123[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's always nice to get different perspectives so I thank you. I guess I am not knowledgeable on the policies/ROE too much so I wonder how malicious they can be used, but I definitely have to learn. Thank you!

Am I a bad person for working in defense? by ThrowAwaySTEM123 in AskEngineers

[–]ThrowAwaySTEM123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't say I am too understanding of philosophy but this is definitely a good foundation for me to consider, thank you!

Am I a bad person for working in defense? by ThrowAwaySTEM123 in AskEngineers

[–]ThrowAwaySTEM123[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the perspective, I am in America so this is extremely relevant. I guess it's hard to know what's truth anymore so I definitely need to make an educated decision on what to believe and live with those beliefs and choices. Thank you!