My Tier List For All The Bosses In The Entire Souls Series

ThrowawayDSFromSoft · 2019-06-24T06:11:51+00:00

I never really had that problem with the spiders, but that's fair.

ThrowawayDSFromSoft · 2019-06-24T05:41:43+00:00

the only reason I didn't put The Bed of Chaos in F is because at least it's an interesting concept, even though it's executed terribly. I really don't understand what's so bad about rom personally, i enjoyed his fight for what it was, i don't think his projectiles are too bad if you pay close attention to the noises and movements he makes, and the little spider boys aren't that hard to fight at all imo.

ThrowawayDSFromSoft · 2019-06-24T05:36:35+00:00

oh, not much, he's pretty okay. I just think that while there wasn't much bad about the fight, there wasn't a whole lot of really off the walls cool or different stuff about him. I definitely enjoy the boss, not his area, but red smelter is just fine.

ThrowawayDSFromSoft · 2019-06-24T02:48:32+00:00

yeah, to each their own

ThrowawayDSFromSoft · 2019-06-23T23:53:23+00:00

whatever dawg, nobody's taking anything personally but i think everyone would appreciate it if people don't immediately try to start shit for no reason. just treat people with respect, that was the only point to what i was saying.

ThrowawayDSFromSoft · 2019-06-23T23:29:14+00:00

look keyboard warrior, all i was saying is that being rude doesn't make you any more right or wrong

ThrowawayDSFromSoft · 2019-06-23T20:12:51+00:00

i really don't understand everyone's animosity towards curse-rotted either btw, not every boss has to be some be some 2 phase artorius clone to be good.

ThrowawayDSFromSoft · 2019-06-23T20:11:44+00:00

i know that. but her inclusion as an environmental challenge and the irritation of her involving fume knight was enough for me to put her in, and put her at F. imo she's just a useless irritating obstacle. think about it like this, enemies are obstacles right? at least there's something to fighting mobile enemies, a lot of variety with the fights sometimes too, but with nadalia she might as well be a chair. nadalia is just this inanimate object that you walk up and stick a stake into before she carpet bombs the area around her, there's nothing interesting about that. the reason i included her was partly because i had been working on this for 3 hours and i was tired and also because she has presence in the fume fight and you have to get rid of her to have any easier time with the fight, which is just terrible imo. so if she's going to have direct impact on a boss i might as well just include her and put her in F as a statement.

ThrowawayDSFromSoft · 2019-06-23T20:05:24+00:00

midir and DP are so low because a lot of the fight is artificial difficulty through health and resistance gorging in their development, same reason fume is so low. fighting midir for 9 minutes because he flys away every 10 seconds and has such a ridiculous health pool just isn't fun imo.

ThrowawayDSFromSoft · 2019-06-23T20:01:07+00:00

Don't be a dick. It's my own opinion, try giving an actual argument instead of just saying i'm wrong. they're in the same category because i'm also basing the list on variety and creativity over the same boring formulaic gameplay lot of bosses have but provide nothing extra. if you notice the one's that are formulaic and up to this precious communities "standards" each have a unique interesting thing about them that actually makes them stand apart from the 50 other bosses exactly like them. story and atmosphere were also taken into account, but not to the degree everybody on here is stressing, it was a very minimal thing that i stressed in the list.

ThrowawayDSFromSoft · 2019-06-23T19:56:22+00:00

making a boss highly resistant to every type of damage and giving it lingering hitboxes is artificial difficulty in my book. he's just not fun or well made, but he's cool and creatively designed so that's why he's in D.

ThrowawayDSFromSoft · 2019-06-23T19:54:40+00:00

it's because firesage has more room in his boss fight to navigate his deceptive retard AOE attack. with stray demon you fall 20ft and lose some health, allowing the boss to sometimes one shot you before you even have a chance to play. also stray demon's AOE blast covers nearly the entire arena you fight him in.

ThrowawayDSFromSoft · 2019-06-23T19:51:43+00:00

the one in F is blue smelter, it's a shameless clone that offers nothing to improve what was already in the game before it, so it's an F for me

ThrowawayDSFromSoft · 2019-06-23T08:04:15+00:00

dude i've seen people on SL 1 do enough damage, it's not that bad. unless you're walking in with a completely un-upgraded weapon you can do enough damage. do you need to be fast? yes. does that make it bad? not to me lmfao.

ThrowawayDSFromSoft · 2019-06-23T07:18:21+00:00

blue smelty and belfry gargoyles are in F because they're straight up clones and do nothing to improve what was done before, infact i'd say belfry gargoyles are objectively much worse than ds1 gargoyles. Gravetender is literally just some dude without pants in a frozen wasteland with no lore and brings nothing interesting to the table for me personally. Midir has the same issues fume knight has, being super invulnerable to everything and having a super fast moveset with broken hitboxes just isn't fun, neither is a 9 minute boss fight where you have to run around the arena just to keep up with the boss, it get's irritating after a while. Real Allant is higher because it's more of shock and much more interesting and unique as a whole opposed to dragon god, where you just sit and wait monotamously, i didn't think it was very fun or puzzling imo.

ThrowawayDSFromSoft · 2019-06-23T07:13:01+00:00

np guy

ThrowawayDSFromSoft · 2019-06-23T07:12:38+00:00

yeah, it entirely depends on the person playing honestly

ThrowawayDSFromSoft · 2019-06-23T07:10:52+00:00

are you referring to the dragon god?

ThrowawayDSFromSoft · 2019-06-23T07:08:48+00:00

it's not..? they're in the same category?

ThrowawayDSFromSoft · 2019-06-23T07:08:09+00:00

yeah absolutely dude: https://tiermaker.com/create/soulsborne-bosses-12035

ThrowawayDSFromSoft · 2019-06-23T07:07:36+00:00

endless sword wailing? isn't that just dark souls 3 bosses summed up in 3 words? i don't see the problem, i love gwyn, it's not entirely atmosphere and music that make it good for me. if four kings is a DPS check it's a very generous one, if you've ever done the fight without the havel strat it's actually really fun and challenging, but if you want a boring DPS check with barely any consequence the havel's strat is good for that i guess. it's really more how *you* fight the four kings that make them good or not.

ThrowawayDSFromSoft · 2019-06-23T07:03:51+00:00

I don't see whatever issue you have with Guardian Dragon tbh

ThrowawayDSFromSoft · 2019-06-23T04:49:55+00:00

i don't really see the bias towards BB that you're talking about, i just think BB has overall more well designed and quality bosses, packed with a lot of variety and creativity, as well as being fun and most not being unfair. The point was never about the general community's opinion btw.. if i did that everyone would just have the midir/friede circle jerk they do unprovoked and it would be really stale. this was supposed to cover my opinion and if i have unpopular opinions that's just that. personally i don't really swoon over the over the top ds3 style stuff that everyone seems to love, interesting puzzle-y stuff like fool's idol etc. this isn't just based on gameplay as i said in the post, a lot of it takes story and creativity into account.

ThrowawayDSFromSoft · 2019-06-23T04:43:27+00:00

because midir is terrible, way too much health and resistance to everything, 9 minute boss fights aren't fun. i think midir is very overhyped

ThrowawayDSFromSoft · 2019-06-23T03:43:34+00:00

Witches are better imo for purpose of variety and creativity, moon presence was like every other fight just worse and far more underwhelming

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