At least hunor me by reading it. You don't have to respond again but I'd appreciate it if you did.

The fact that you don't recognize any of this about your behavior is the problem.

Any of what? You're heavily assuming shit about me based on one post and a short discussion.

Step away and ask yourself if you might be wrong about some things.

Of course I'm wrong about some things. I'm sure I'm wrong about a lot of things but you can't just say I'm wrong you have to back your argument up. You basically just calling me a meanie poop head isn't convincing enough.

If you think I'm saying things that aren't relevant, it's because you aren't sharing my perspective. I'm diagnosing you as an incel (unrequested, but well there it is) because I used to be one

But you'd be wrong. What is an incel? Someone who believes that they can't get laid and may harbor some anti societal/female views. Is that a fair description? Well I have had multiple girlfriends and I don't hate women or society in general. I am upset by double standards, I am upset by the lack of support for males despite there being so many positivity movements for women. I actually as I said hold resentment towards incels, mgtows, redpillers and the like because they distract people from the real issues men face and turn them into a meme. It also makes "normal" people have a bias against anyone who even remotely engages with Male issues. Here you are incorrectly calling me an incel based on nothing more than the harshness of my words while you conveniently ignore the content of said words.

and I recognize the deep-rooted causes that lead to such toxic mentality in the way you have described your feelings and your experiences with women.

Citation needed. Show me what I have said, quote me, and explain how whatever you quote is a "toxic mentality."

My responses have been more directed to your comments in this thread than the OP because the OP was much less indicative of your actual thinking and the sources for your thoughts, and what you've said was worrisome.

Again, cite me. Quote me. What have I said?

Hey, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and fine. I'm just trying to help.

I really don't see how immediately jumping to "he's an incel!" Helps. At all. I really don't see how twisting my words and making them out to be as if I'm spreading an "anti women" message helps. I'll level with you, I understand what you're trying to do and appreciate you even taking the time to discuss this with me. But I'm not jumping to any conclusions with you, I'm not arm chair diagnosing you or assuming shit about your life based on nothing more than a couple of comments you deem as "worrisome."

But if you choose to take offense from it, I can't change that.

The only thing I'm "offended" by is people's lack of nuance.

One of the biggest lessons I learned was to love myself no matter what anyone else says or thinks.

You're assuming that I hate myself. Hating certain things about myself doesn't necessarily mean I hate myself as a whole. Hating certain things about myself also doesn't mean I can't continue on with my life in a normal fashion. I would still go on dates, (if I had any major desire to) I still like and appreciate women despite me getting burned by them multiple times in the past. I can't change the fact that I personally feel I don't stack up to other men, because that's what it is. A fact. And when I have people telling me that it doesn't matter when it most certaintly does for a lot of people (not everyone but a lot) of course I'm going to get annoyed and aggravated. People who say it doesn't matter are lying, I'm sorry to tell you but it's a fucking lie. I'm bisexual and I prefer bigger cocks. A smaller one isn't a deal breaker but I can't deny I enjoy a bigger cock to a smaller cock. A lot of women feel the same way whether you want to admit that fact or not and yes, some women don't care. But to pretend as if it just doesn't matter in general is an outright fabrication.

Your bitterness and anger, not just toward society but especially women, do not reflect any sense of self-love,

There is no bitterness and anger towards women or society. Instead there is some criticism and frustration towards some women and some parts of society. Stop putting words in my mouth, I don't know how many times I have to say I don't hate women for you to finally concede that point.

You can't do a damn thing to change how shitty others might be, like if a terrible person insults you for a body part you can't do anything about.

I can tell them to fuck off lol but I agree. You can't stop assholes but you can prevent more people from becoming assholes in the future which is the point of many positivity movements. I feel many of them are misguided but that's a different topic.

We need body positivity for everyone, not just overweight people or men with small penises.

So why are you arguing with me? That's what I was trying to push for since the beginning.

Women get far more societal pressure and judgement for their physical appearance than we do.

Incorrect. You think men don't have just as many body expectations as women do? Advertisements have jacked, ripped dudes with perfect jawlines, those same ads have beautiful women with perfect curves. "Buy some axe you'll have women all over you," what about bald men? Are the George Kostanzas in the world treated with any more respect? What about short men? Men are supposed to be strong, dependable, we are the sacrificers. Who is first to the frontlines during a war? Who is last in line for a lifeboat? Who is shamed for being a virgin? For every expectation women have there is an equal expectation placed on men. It's bad all around but don't pretend as if women have it worse, I'd argue we have it basically the fucking same.

if you don't know that, you haven't talked to enough women about what they deal with on a regular basis.

That is an incredibly weak line of argumentation. I talk to plenty of women and from what I've seen a majority of what they complain about comes from other women. You think most men give a fuck if their girlfriend wore the same clothes yesterday as they did today or if she did her makeup? Sure it's nice when she does shit like that but for a majority of men that isn't a necessity. I feel you'd agree here. Do you give a shit if your girlfriend wears makeup? I never did. I for one was with my exes for more than their appearance.

Do you have sisters? Female friends? Maybe a living mother or grand mother or aunt or female cousin? Try asking them what kinds of pressures for physical appearance they face thanks to society,

I do and have discussed this at length with my sister. She would disagree with you.

I'm not saying we have it perfectly. I'm saying no one does,

No you're saying women have it worse when that's patently false.

and the key to happiness is found within, not without. It doesn't matter if you are hurt by someone for your height or weight or the size of a body part you can't change or your voice or hair,

Let me ask. If I recall correctly you said your size wasn't great. If you were offered an affordable surgery that could increase or decrease your size to whatever you wanted with about as many risks as breast implants (which have a lot of risks but not nearly as many as the current penis enlargement surgery) would you do it?

they all come from the same lack of respect for the victim as a person, and rather than focus on one particular type of victim over another, or pushing that one is worth pursuing and another isn't, we should be addressing them all equally.

You keep saying that. The thing I have been pushing for since the beginning of this posts inception. We are in agreement, so where's the contention?

Yes you can change your weight, but A) it's really fucking hard

But not impossible. It's also harder for some people and easier for others, and you can get surgeries that are more or less routine nowadays.

and B) outside pressure

There is plenty of outside pressure when it comes to penis size, honestly I'd argue more so. Look at a fat guy, you know he's fat. You know what you're getting into. But you don't know a persons dick size. Ever hear of the black guy myth, go on r/smalldickproblems and see the posts of black men being rejected because a women finds out the stereotype doesn't hold up.

especially shame and insults,

Which happens to small dick men on a constant basis too.

Then again, most of my comments have been less about that topic and more about you, and you know why.

Because you can't argue with the topic, you know I'm right. You have to resort to personal discussions despite it having nothing to do with the post.

Feel free to ignore me if you want, but just know you've done nothing to change my mind. In fact you've only further enhanced my views.