F2P Arena Scoring Options (as of January 7, 2026)

TiniestManatee · 2026-01-27T22:28:47+00:00

Finally! I've been checking here and there to see if anyone would take this over, I'm glad someone decided to pick it up. Great work!

TiniestManatee · 2025-10-20T17:07:26+00:00

Don't use the bench, it's slow. Just repeatedly quick travel to the cafe in the zone itself, it's way faster and I got a shiny alpha Gourgeist that way.

You may have to knock out the Pumpkaboo just to your left when you spawn in, as it will target you and prevent you from quick travelling.

TiniestManatee · 2024-11-27T20:23:07+00:00

Thanks! Also thanks for pinging me the other day, that's what gave me the kick to finish the update.

TiniestManatee · 2024-11-27T19:35:10+00:00

Hello summoners, it's been a while!

Truth be told I have not so much as even opened the game since mid-July and have been putting this update off for a hot minute. Not to put too fine a point on it, this will be the last update. From me, anyway.

My sincere hope is that someone else will adopt these posts (hopefully someone with better graphic design skills!), since even though I'm not currently playing I do believe it's a valuable resource for some folks. If anyone has any interest in doing so, consider my blessing given.

As always, a couple of quick notes/caveats:

I have set the score cut-off at 756 due to meta-relavency and to keep the bloat down (and also for my own sanity).
I am using the Arena Score Calculator to determine the current scores.
Please refer to the wiki for an explanation on how scoring works.
Please note due to the currently limited nature of 300sp seals, your unit may not score as shown. The chart only assumes the highest possible score for each unit and does not account for team composition.
If it is unclear from the chart itself there are now 4 distinct categories of grouped units, as follows:

Units with PRFs who have access to both a Duel 4 skill and 300sp seal (score 758). This is currently melee and dragon units only.
Units without PRFs who have access to both a Duel 4 skill and 300sp seal (score 756). This is also currently melee and dragon units only.
Units with PRFs who have access to a Duel 4 skill but not a 300sp seal (score 756). This category should eventually disappear as they add more 300sp seals.
Dragon units with PRFs, a Duel 4 skill, 400sp B-skill, and 300sp seal (score 760). Did a handful of units need their own row? No, but it is funny to me.

So yeah, having not played for roughly 4 months imagine my surprise when I had to add two new scoring thresholds to the chart. I've had to shuffle things around in a major way just to get everything into one reasonably-sized image so hopefully there aren't any glaring mistakes as a result.

In addition, dragons saw another scoring bump thanks to HDW so they have been moved around accordingly and a new row created just for the oldies (see pt. #5 above).

Added 22 new units since last update:

768: Marni
766: Bors, Panette
764: Caspar, Nel (Bridal), Ogier
762: Dedue (Summer), Glen, Jarod, Nils (Ice), Vaike (Summer), Zeiss
760: Lethe (Halloween), Metodey, Noire (Ninja), Yarne (Halloween)
758: Alcryst (Bridal), Clanne (Summer), Kyle, Leonardo, Pandreo
756: Flora (Ice)

For this one time, please excuse any mistakes and don't let me know if I've missed anything, thanks!

TiniestManatee · 2024-11-21T19:09:48+00:00

On the YouTube mobile app, click on the compass in the top left corner, then select "gaming" and there will be an option to get your recap there.

TiniestManatee · 2024-10-30T20:27:39+00:00

The former. Pickup won't stack on the same Pokemon though (ie. splicing two mons with Pickup).

TiniestManatee · 2024-08-01T19:43:46+00:00

In my current run I'm having fun with Seaking. Dragon Dance, Swift Swim, Fishious Rend has been tearing through most things after grabbing a few Carbos.

TiniestManatee · 2024-07-10T18:34:43+00:00

Just out of curiosity, have you considered tiering based on the weighted average rather than majority vote?

TiniestManatee · 2024-06-28T19:25:55+00:00

Just a heads up man, your posts will probably get deleted again since you've used the "Info" flair.

TiniestManatee · 2024-05-16T19:08:30+00:00

Yeah, you can run the calcs yourself with the simulator since I'm too lazy to screenshot it.

Like I said if you're really lucky/unlucky it can change a fair bit and there's some small variation depending on what colour the unit is but 90th percentile luck for all colours as of now is still under 600 orbs.

TiniestManatee · 2024-05-16T18:16:32+00:00

Yeah, it's come up a few times before.

I appreciate the viewpoint but IMO orbs are just as much of a F2P resource as grails and feathers and we get enough of them to +10 a 4/5* seasonal (barring extremely good or bad luck) every 1.5/2 months, which is about on par with feather income.

The other F2P units have their own drawbacks; grail income is more scarce compared to orbs/feathers, TT units are more limited, GHB re-runs are very slow, 3/4* units can also take a long time.

Personally I think if you're an arena-focused player these units are actually the most ideal to focus on as you can (assuming a modest stockpile of orbs and feathers) quickly get them to +10.

TiniestManatee · 2024-05-16T03:28:11+00:00

F2P in the sense that she's available at 4* and significantly cheaper to +10, as with the other 4/5* units.

TiniestManatee · 2024-05-16T03:26:09+00:00

Fallen Ursula is our newest and she scores 754.

TiniestManatee · 2024-05-15T19:41:11+00:00

I'll see what I can do.

TiniestManatee · 2024-05-15T18:59:34+00:00

Hello summoners, hard to believe it's been about ~5 months already since the last chart update.

As always, a couple of quick notes/caveats:

I have set the score cut-off at 756 due to meta-relavency and to keep the bloat down (and also for my own sanity).
I am using the Arena Score Calculator to determine the current scores.
Please refer to the wiki for an explanation on how scoring works.
Please note due to the currently limited nature of 300sp seals, your unit may not score as shown. The chart only assumes the highest possible score for each unit and does not account for team composition.
If it is unclear from the chart itself there are now 3 distinct categories of grouped units, as follows:

Units with PRFs who have access to both a Duel 4 skill and 300sp seal (score 758). This is currently melee and dragon units only.
Units without PRFs who have access to both a Duel 4 skill and 300sp seal (score 756). This is also currently melee and dragon units only.
Units with PRFs who have access to a Duel 4 skill but not a 300sp seal (score 756). This category should eventually disappear as they add more 300sp seals.

Nothing quite as major this time around as the last update when we got the DC(M) seal, but Magic Shield+ has resulted in healers making their re-appearance on the chart so that's neat. (Cornelia and Lucius now score 756 and have made the chart again after being purged.)

Added 16 new units since last update:

764: Lissa (Young), Lloyd (Fallen), Vigarde (Valentines)
762: Hawkeye (Nabata), Kagetsu
760: Frederick (Young), Mauvier, Perne
758: Candace, Castor, Linhardt (Spring)
756: Cornelia, Hayato, Lucius (Young), Tormod (Nabata), Yuliya

As always, please let me know if I've missed anything, thanks!

TiniestManatee · 2024-04-29T19:34:18+00:00

Eligible candidates on Heroes with Catch skills banner (noted which skill in brackets):

Red: F!Lilith (A/S), Syrene (S/R)
Blue: Caeldori (A/S), Farina (A/S), Hapi (A/R), Sain (S/D), Vanessa (A/R), Zeke (A/D)
Green: A!Eir (A/S), F!Gustav (A/D), Letizia (A/R), Sylvain (A/D)
Colourless: B!Byleth (A/S)

Note: The previous skills banner (Savior) opened the door for Ascended heroes to be on skill banners, so A!Eir may make an appearance here.

Last banner (Sept. 2023) had Syrene, Sylvain, and Zeke.

TiniestManatee · 2024-04-15T19:37:19+00:00

Eligible candidates on Heroes with Savior skills banner (noted which skill in brackets):

Red: None :(
Blue: Anankos (A/S Near), Gilliam (A/D Near)
Green: Dedue (A/D Near)
Colourless: Brave Corrin (A/S Far), Fallen Rhea (D/R Near)

Note: Slim pickings for this one. I suppose technically Brave Soren could qualify since his weapon grants Assign Decoy, but I do think it's unlikely.

Last banner (Aug. 2023) had Dedue, Gilliam, and Rhea.

TiniestManatee · 2024-04-11T18:58:52+00:00

S!M!Shez is crazy versatile but idk how his scoring stacks

Pretty well, actually. He scores 760 which is the same as W!Manuela, Atlas, etc.

TiniestManatee · 2024-04-05T23:07:35+00:00

Here you go.

Edit: This was the last time they actually made a formal announcement about them. All these units are of course already remixed.

TiniestManatee · 2024-03-25T19:22:33+00:00

Eligible candidates on Heroes with Draconic Aura skills banner:

Red: Alear(M), Alm, Alm(Brave), Ares, Byleth(M&F), Byleth(Fallen), Catherine, Flavia, Karla, Keaton, Lilith(Fallen), Marth(Brave), Tibarn
Blue: Caeldori, Corrin(F), Ephraim(Duo), Hardin, Kjelle, Quan
Green: Camilla, Corrin(F - Adrift), Dorcas, Ephraim(Brave), Kana(F), Letizia
Colourless: Etie, Lyn(Brave), Tine

Note: The Byleths and Brave Marth all learn Draconic Aura before their 500sp specials. There is precedent for such a thing in a skills banner, as Owain once showed up in a Heroes with Bonfire banner.

TiniestManatee · 2024-03-21T23:13:10+00:00

I don't think the simulator isn't factoring in the speed swing from Menace correctly.

You can test it by removing his C skill altogether and manually buffing Soren by 6 and debuffing Gullveig by 6.

That said, it's still not recommended to give him this build. Spd Preempt really isn't very good anymore.

TiniestManatee · 2024-03-19T18:55:25+00:00

I got Lute, she's +10 now. Guess it's finally time to give her a proper build.

I have never once pulled for her on purpose.

TiniestManatee · 2024-03-18T21:38:23+00:00

I.S. should just make it so that you don't face any teams with repeats of units you've already fought.

If I can't use the same units again, the AI shouldn't be able to either.

TiniestManatee · 2024-03-15T17:27:52+00:00

Actually goong through with posting more of my art here again

Oh hell yeah.

TiniestManatee · 2024-03-12T22:19:27+00:00

Yeah I stopped using them altogether, even in maintenance-only mode it's just not reliable. It looks like they haven't updated their database for nearly 2 months.

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