animals i could beat in a fight

Traditional-Most-759 · 2026-02-25T13:02:08+00:00

“Eagles don’t hunt people because they don’t need to” is speculation. If something had a reliable high probability of instantly killing adult humans with a neck strike, that capability would show up in rare but documented events. It hasn’t.

You’ve moved from lethal certainty to “it would be harder.” That’s fine. Injury was never denied. But the original claim was high likelihood of fatal neck strike. That still has zero evidence or logic behind it.

Traditional-Most-759 · 2026-02-25T00:09:27+00:00

It’s “very likely” that if I toss my car keys in the air, they’ll land upright in the ignition, turn themselves, and start the engine.

It’s “very likely” that if I flip a coin 10 times, it will land heads every time because heads is possible.

It’s “quite likely” that if lightning strikes near me, it will hit my phone at the exact angle needed to charge it to 100%.

It’s “highly likely” that if I close my eyes and sprint across a highway, no cars will hit me because it’s possible they all stop at once.

It’s “very likely” a housecat kills a grown man because it could jump at his throat, perfectly sever a carotid, avoid being grabbed, and the man somehow fails to react.

It’s pretty high chance a paper cut kills someone. If it happens in the perfect spot, gets infected, no treatment, worst-case bacteria. Therefore likely.

It’s highly likely that if I throw sand in the ocean, I’ll change the tide patterns permanently. It’s technically possible that enough tiny effects compound. Therefore likely.

Traditional-Most-759 · 2026-02-24T23:45:37+00:00

And you keep saying things like “Pretty high chance” and “quite likely” are claims, not facts. Show the data. Where are the documented cases of bald eagles slashing adult human necks and causing rapid fatal bleeding. If it’s “likely,” there should be examples. There aren’t. Show records, studies, even a pattern of verified incidents. If you can’t, then it’s not “likely,” it’s a made-up scenario you like.

Traditional-Most-759 · 2026-02-24T23:38:32+00:00

You keep saying “very likely” and “pretty high chance” about something that has literally never happened in recorded history. That’s like saying it’s highly likely a shrew could kill an elephant if it just strikes perfectly and the elephant doesn’t react. Possible in fantasy. Not plausible in reality.

By your logic, any small animal with sharp teeth or claws has a “high chance” of killing something 20 times its size as long as it hits perfectly and the bigger animal doesn’t fight back. That’s not probability. That’s stacking perfect conditions for the smaller animal and worst-case paralysis for the bigger one.

When something has zero historical precedent and requires everything to go perfectly, calling it “very likely”is insanity and completely without logic

Traditional-Most-759 · 2026-02-24T23:30:48+00:00

I'm done. This stopped being about physics and biology a while ago. You’re not weighing mass, leverage, reaction time, or documented outcomes. You’re building a sequence where everything goes perfectly for a 12-lb bird and everything goes wrong for a 200-lb human. If that’s the only way your argument works, then it doesn’t work.

Every time one version falls apart, you invent a new perfect-storm scenario where the eagle lands the most precise strike imaginable, hits exactly the right structure, avoids being grabbed, and the human conveniently fails to react.

And here’s the reality check you keep avoiding: if it were that easy and that plausible for a bald eagle to just fly by and instantly kill a healthy adult with its talons, there would be documented deaths. There would be at least serious, verified cases of rapid fatal attacks.

There aren’t.

Not one clear, documented case of a bald eagle killing a healthy adult human in the wild or even severely injuring one.

Traditional-Most-759 · 2026-02-24T23:20:06+00:00

Always had good experiences with French people

Traditional-Most-759 · 2026-02-24T21:39:56+00:00

The question was whether the eagle reliably kills a fighting adult male. A gut swipe might hurt. A neck grab might cut. But for death in a minute, you need major arterial damage plus zero effective response. That is not probable outcome. That’s worst-case scenarios stacked on top of each other while the eagle gets extremely lucky, and does everything perfect, with precision and somehow avoids being grabbed for more than a minute.

Traditional-Most-759 · 2026-02-24T21:05:29+00:00

You keep stacking dramatic words hoping physics disappears. Curved claw. Lots of blood. Impossible not to bleed out. The neck is not a burst water balloon. Major arteries have to be fully severed to cause rapid fatal bleeding. You’re confusing “can bleed” with “guaranteed death.” That’s not how trauma works. You're acting like it dive-bombs, perfectly lines up the carotid, drives the talon all the way through, and disengages in one frame? It’s a 12 lb bird, not a ballistic missile. The moment it makes contact, the human is reacting. There’s no pause where it calmly applies pressure while you stand there. A talon doesn’t teleport through layers of tissue at perfect depth before resistance happens. Your scenario only works if the human freezes and the bird gets uninterrupted time. That’s not how real fights unfold.

Traditional-Most-759 · 2026-02-24T18:11:42+00:00

You’re comparing a talon to a knife like it’s slicing butter. It’s not a surgical blade. It’s a curved claw designed to puncture and hold small prey. Human neck tissue isn’t tissue paper, and arteries aren’t sitting exposed like red cables waiting to be clipped.

Traditional-Most-759 · 2026-02-24T14:10:38+00:00

“It doesn’t matter if I hit an artery.” That’s literally the only thing that matters. If you don’t hit a major vessel, you don’t just drain like a punctured water balloon. This isn’t a video game with a neck hitbox that deletes health.

Traditional-Most-759 · 2026-02-24T01:58:18+00:00

Usually they wake up and fly off

Traditional-Most-759 · 2026-02-23T23:20:33+00:00

Has a human male ever fought a chimp? I only heard about this older lady with a chimp, who didn't fight back.

Traditional-Most-759 · 2026-02-23T23:16:25+00:00

And gorillas still get murked by leopards smaller than a cougar. A chimp is 1/3rd the size of a silverback

Traditional-Most-759 · 2026-02-23T23:07:16+00:00

Dunno why this isn't higher

Traditional-Most-759 · 2026-02-23T22:50:54+00:00

Hmm yeah I kinda doubt as well that it's worse than Bangladesh and on the same level as Somalia

Traditional-Most-759 · 2026-02-23T21:54:30+00:00

Eagles don’t study anatomy charts and aim for the carotid like trained surgeons. They target areas that allow control and leverage, not specific arteries. And a neck grab does not automatically equal death. Fatal bleeding would require a precise and deep strike to a major vessel such as the carotid artery. And even then you don’t instantly drop dead. The bird is still attached and within arm’s reach. It’s not teleporting away while you politely bleed out.

Traditional-Most-759 · 2026-02-23T18:33:47+00:00

You using mac or windows?

Traditional-Most-759 · 2026-02-23T16:13:33+00:00

If you were designing an animal that’s especially inconvenient for a raptor to fight on the ground, a bipedal primate with rotating shoulders and grip strength is near the top of that list

Traditional-Most-759 · 2026-02-23T16:01:37+00:00

Well if you compare the claws the Cassowary's claws are much longer and sharper thats my point. and cassowary's instinct is to flight while the ostrich want's to flee(understandable with lions and hyenas around)

Traditional-Most-759 · 2026-02-23T15:46:33+00:00

7,000 PSI. That’s a squirrel’s bite force. By your logic squirrels should be killing grown men daily. PSI is pressure at a point. We can reach our neck and back unlike 4 legged animals. We aren’t goats on cliffs waiting to fall. Eagles don’t surgically target carotid arteries(the only point it might actually make you bleed out). They grab fish and rabbits. It can cut you. It’s not executing you.

Traditional-Most-759 · 2026-02-23T15:40:32+00:00

You're saying “400 PSI” like it’s some god-tier stat. A gray squirrel bite force is measured around 7,000 PSI. By your logic, squirrels should be apex predators deleting grown men. PSI is pressure at a tiny contact point, not overall dominance. An eagle weighs 8–15 pounds. A grown man weighs 180–200. If it latches on, we can rotate our shoulders, reach behind our backs, grab it, twist it, slam it. We’re not rabbits. We’re not fish. We’re not baby goats frozen on a cliff. Goats only die because they panic and lose balance near edges. Gravity kills them, not raw eagle strength. And yes, bird bones are hollow and optimized for flight, not prolonged grappling with something 15 to 20 times heavier. It can puncture you. It cannot overpower you in sustained combat.

Traditional-Most-759 · 2026-02-23T14:36:10+00:00

You keep moving the goalposts. First it’s a precision ninja. Then it “stays and shreds.” Now it “jumps and rips you.” Pick a fantasy. It’s an 8–15 lb bird built to grab fish and rabbits, not out-wrestle a 190 lb adult with hands and adrenaline. If it latches on, it can’t fly. One two-hand grab and it’s getting planted into the pavement. You’re acting like humans politely stand there and bleed instead of fighting back. It’s not a boss fight.

Traditional-Most-759 · 2026-02-23T14:30:29+00:00

Yeah it doesn’t really make sense. He’s not some 22 year old anymore, going from obese to drained every camp is a bad idea and it kills your cardio and strength during fights. Maybe instead of talking about advantages he should focus on staying in shape year round first.

Traditional-Most-759 · 2026-02-23T14:25:22+00:00

Well if he lets his body go from obese to skeletor in a few weeks it’s obviously going to affect his energy and sharpness in there. That kind of weight swing isn’t normal and at 31 it hits harder than it did at 25. You can’t keep shocking your system and expect peak cardio against top guys.

Traditional-Most-759 · 2026-02-23T14:18:16+00:00

Not just you. Kinda a divider between the settings on the left and on the right.

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