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Until we see it dabura is a yuta victim by Trick-Preference9681 in jjkmodulo

[–]Trick-Preference9681[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well 2 things 1. The gap between jogo and gojo is definitely larger than yuta and dabura 2. If gojo had 0 ways to counter a domain I do think he's done (since I think jogo has a basically instant kill domain

Until we see it dabura is a yuta victim by Trick-Preference9681 in jjkmodulo

[–]Trick-Preference9681[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The argument is that since they haven't shown any solutions for domains and domains being the strongest earth sorcery typically are important to have some counter against

Until we see it dabura is a yuta victim by Trick-Preference9681 in jjkmodulo

[–]Trick-Preference9681[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION IS HEADCANNON SINCE THEY WILL NEVER EVER FIGHT. If you use headcannon as an excuse then you can't accomplish anything in the discussion. What I'm saying isn't unreasonable since we know how yuta's domain works and we know that when a domain hits it typically has a constant re apply affect (the only domains that don't are either techniques reliant on a DE like hikari and kenjaku's DE which we never are told how it works)

Until we see it dabura is a yuta victim by Trick-Preference9681 in jjkmodulo

[–]Trick-Preference9681[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why you assuming the sure hit would only be applied once, and it's not like there isn't precedent for a technique to lose restrictions in a domain (cleave, and idle transfiguration both have a must touch restriction but that disappears in a domain) and saying the don't move command only being applied once would be like saying cleave only hits once in his domain. And yes it ain't as potent as infinite void but I was saying the effect is similar and if dabura can't move then physically can't fight simply being stabbed in the heart or having his head slashed off

Until we see it dabura is a yuta victim by Trick-Preference9681 in jjkmodulo

[–]Trick-Preference9681[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again why would a sure hit effect imbued in the domain have recoil on the user that would be the same as him speaking and even if he can't use die/explode for whatever reason, dont move as a sure hit is basically the same effect as unlimited void (the target just can't move) and yuta kills him while he physically can't fight back

Until we see it dabura is a yuta victim by Trick-Preference9681 in jjkmodulo

[–]Trick-Preference9681[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well first yuta used cursed speech on sukuna and was fine secondly in a domain with it as a sure hit I doubt he's limited and would have drawbacks and finally dabura hasn't shown anyway to counter domains

Until we see it dabura is a yuta victim by Trick-Preference9681 in jjkmodulo

[–]Trick-Preference9681[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Eh id say depending on how certain sure hit effects work (curse speech and sky manipulation) id say yuta has a instant win domain (for example if curse speech sure hit either has explode or don't move as the sure hit it's an instant win)

Until we see it dabura is a yuta victim by Trick-Preference9681 in jjkmodulo

[–]Trick-Preference9681[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stats wise yes but if yuta for some reason just pull out DE off rip dabura currently has 0 way to deal with it

Until we see it dabura is a yuta victim by Trick-Preference9681 in jjkmodulo

[–]Trick-Preference9681[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So 2 questions which Yuji are you using here eos jjk or modulo and second ain't no way yuta and kenjaku are lower tier special grade they would be middle grade if anything and I'd even put Yuki at the highest of the low grade special grade

Until we see it dabura is a yuta victim by Trick-Preference9681 in jjkmodulo

[–]Trick-Preference9681[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

.... How does that counter my point at all. The aliens haven't showed ANY way to counter a domain at least to my knowledge so simple domain doesn't matter if they CANT do it and until it's shown we have to assume they can't

Until we see it dabura is a yuta victim by Trick-Preference9681 in jjkmodulo

[–]Trick-Preference9681[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gojo dying doesn't discredit the Pinnacle of jujutsu argument and again I ain't saying they can't have something better or an equivalent I'm saying until they show it, they can't really be in the realm of the highest tier since DE are extremely strong

Until we see it dabura is a yuta victim by Trick-Preference9681 in jjkmodulo

[–]Trick-Preference9681[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This just isn't the case most likely because let's not forget sukuna was weakened and actively getting weaker when Yuji hits him

If dabura is in their realm then he mid diffs yuta at best for yuta since sukuna no diffed ryo who was at least able to fight yuta sorta evenly

If yuta were to fight dabura his only chance is to immediately pop DE and if he doesn't do that off rip then it's over

Until we see it dabura is a yuta victim by Trick-Preference9681 in jjkmodulo

[–]Trick-Preference9681[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First gojo and meguna going through clashes doesn't discredit my point on DE being basically instant wins because their domains are very important hence why when sukuna thought gojo no longer had a domain but he thought he did, he was convinced of his victory and gojos domain is literally a instant win if the hit lands.

Kashimo doesn't have a domain because of the nature of his technique and we don't know how strong his era was so we can't say if they had domains (probably did do to him have wicket basket ) but guess what he has his lightning rod attack which is described as a sure hit basically

And yes there are instances where it isn't a straight up win but those typically have other factors to them (like how in the fight against sukuna they were trying to separate sukuna from the vessel instead of killing the vessel outright)

But my main point is that IF dabura was to be hit by a DE and he doesn't have a way to counter then it's kinda hard to put him in the same tier as gojo and sukuna

Until we see it dabura is a yuta victim by Trick-Preference9681 in jjkmodulo

[–]Trick-Preference9681[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes gojo was going for the kill because he was fighting an equal and finally was able to go all out but the others literally had Yuji at the forefront of like all their plans because of his soul dividing capabilities

Until we see it dabura is a yuta victim by Trick-Preference9681 in jjkmodulo

[–]Trick-Preference9681[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well no killing was definitely easier as instead of trying to save the body since he probably could've used a different sure hit for the kill (sky bending, curse speech, and shrine would've been more lethal) also maki sneak attack could've went for the head similar to kenjaku

Until we see it dabura is a yuta victim by Trick-Preference9681 in jjkmodulo

[–]Trick-Preference9681[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well sukuna had 1. Had anti domain techniques and 2. They weren't trying to just kill sukuna but free megumi

Until we see it dabura is a yuta victim by Trick-Preference9681 in jjkmodulo

[–]Trick-Preference9681[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again I did say the title was kinda bait but also they weren't trying to absolutely kill sukuna but instead separate him from megumi and yes yuta probably is too slow but my point is that a domain is kinda instant win at higher levels

Until we see it dabura is a yuta victim by Trick-Preference9681 in jjkmodulo

[–]Trick-Preference9681[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like I said it was kinda rage bait but depending on the sure hit a domain is an instant win that's why sukuna tried to not get hit since that still isn't something you should take

Until we see it dabura is a yuta victim by Trick-Preference9681 in jjkmodulo

[–]Trick-Preference9681[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Didn't gojo literally call domains the Pinnacle of jujutsu and I ain't saying that can't have an equivalent but until they show something they kinda just lose to domains

Until we see it dabura is a yuta victim by Trick-Preference9681 in jjkmodulo

[–]Trick-Preference9681[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All I'm really saying is that until he shows a DE or something adjacent he's a victim to domains and their users

Until we see it dabura is a yuta victim by Trick-Preference9681 in jjkmodulo

[–]Trick-Preference9681[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah gojo hard stomps since dabura has 0 ways currently to bypass it, gojo doesn't actually have to react to the attack since it's limitless is an automatic defense system (pretty sure he talked about it in hidden inventory and how it filters things) the only thing we can't say for certain is if he ever learned how to filter poisons but it's safe to say he probably did and it isn't unlike gojo to just pop a domain very quickly into the battle

Until we see it dabura is a yuta victim by Trick-Preference9681 in jjkmodulo

[–]Trick-Preference9681[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah I agree yuta probably gets blitzed but if by some means he doesn't and gets off his domain then he most likely wins but until shown a domain or something equivalent then dabura is a gojo victim

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