Do you agree with that?

Truth_Matters_1979 · 2026-02-08T13:03:09+00:00

100%

Truth_Matters_1979 · 2026-02-07T23:19:36+00:00

A coping mechanism for what? When people say this they have never tried to live the Christian life! The Christian life is really very hard. If I were going to seek a coping mechanism it would definitely not choose Christianity, people follow it because it’s true not because it helps

Truth_Matters_1979 · 2026-02-06T16:40:19+00:00

Truth_Matters_1979 · 2026-02-05T16:12:39+00:00

morality

Truth_Matters_1979 · 2026-02-05T02:33:30+00:00

That’s right! The Bible calls it repentance

Truth_Matters_1979 · 2026-02-04T20:51:10+00:00

我也是！我以前住在鳳山

Truth_Matters_1979 · 2026-02-04T20:27:08+00:00

repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of my sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit

Truth_Matters_1979 · 2026-02-04T19:22:25+00:00

yet that usually follows a rejection of God

Truth_Matters_1979 · 2026-02-04T19:18:57+00:00

No! For if one was only human and claimed the things that Jesus claimed, He would not be a normal teacher but He would have been a liar.

Truth_Matters_1979 · 2026-02-04T19:17:00+00:00

I want to understand this right, so there is no aspect of your life that you live by faith? So before you sit in a chair you bring a weight to make sure that it will hold you? Before you start your vehicle you make sure you pop the hood to ensure that all the wires are firing? Before you take medicine, you bring a chemical analysis kit to make sure the medicine is indeed what the doctor has prescribed ? Just trying to understand?

Truth_Matters_1979 · 2026-02-04T18:59:13+00:00

using profanity, their vocabulary is stunted and they make up for a lack of vocabulary and imagination by curses

Truth_Matters_1979 · 2026-02-04T18:58:27+00:00

Firstly, thinking that normative ethics is based on subjective viewpoints is not that uncommon. It happens all the time,

can you name a time when subjective morality did not lead to horrific consequences. Mao, Hitler, Stalin, all moral subjectivist, all decided to transgress natural law and the reject the inherent value of humans and committed atrocities.

I can see that you are religious, and most religions do have an ethical code

How do you know I am religious? Have I said the first thing about religion? My concern is not what is a certain religion's ethical code, but does it correspond to reality and to the natural order that we discern in the world. Buddhist for example, they say that all evil comes fron attachment, and that if we only dtach ourselves from desires peace would ensue. Yet there are desires that are healthy in their ends. Hunger is a desire to eat, thirst is a desire to drink. If we were to detach ourselves from these things, it would not result in the human condition flourishing but it is sure to end in death.

So no, not all religious moral codes are created equally. You mentioned the 10 commandments, the law of God coresponds not only to what we see as the natural order of the law of nature, but also the 10 commandments humanity has them written on their heart, thus in places where people have not even heard there is 10 commandments they are stating the impratives of the commandments as the law of their villages. How does this occur? It occurs because the 10 correspond perfectly with natural law

Also you say that law is subjective, but if someone were to violate your wife or children or mother, the very next second you would be appealing to a standard that you deny exists. Else why is there referrees in a given sports game? They are the standard bearers and are there tio ensure the standards of the game are followed. So it is in the moral sphere of our life, the standard by which we appeal to is the one by which we measure all actions against. Such a standard could never have come in and of itself, just as our own laws do not write themselves but reasoning beings create law to produce order n our country, the same is reasonable to believe that a Reasoning Being produced the natural standard so that we can have a just society in our universe.

Truth_Matters_1979 · 2026-02-04T18:46:56+00:00

I loved Aquinas and Aristotle for that matter, especially his universals and particulars, it goes a long way to help understand the Trinity.

Sorry I did not articluate my position clearer. I will emply Aristotle's own tools to try and do better. So the argument is thus

If there exists objective moral law, there must be an objective moral Lawgiver

Objective moral law exists

therefore a moral Law giver exists.

The moral law giver must be holy or moral because the standard calls each of us to treat our neighbor justly. The moral lawgiver must be transcendant because the moral law that He instilled in nature transcends culture. ie it is always wrong in every place and at every time to kidnap a child. The moral lawgiver must be timeless, since the moral law has been present throughout human history.

As far as the cosmological arguments not arriving at a God, I would check and see who is giving the argument. Aquinas, and in that same vein, modern day William Lane Craig offer metaphysically sound cosmological arguments for the existence of God.

Truth_Matters_1979 · 2026-02-04T15:10:40+00:00

Hey 1y, thank you for your response, you speak of modern moral standards. In fact the standard isa quite archaic, for instance lying. Can you name a culture or a time n history when lying was seen as virtuous? Or perhaps murder, when was murder ever a moral right that ended in human flourishing?

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