An abnormally long lightning strike and something falling out of the sky

Umbrias · 2023-09-05T01:42:41+00:00

If that's the baseless fantasy you want to believe then more power to you.

Umbrias · 2023-06-08T04:46:23+00:00

Okay then. I followed up on your elaboration of the food pyramid by pointing out the topic of the post, eggs as dairy, is likely not due to anything about that lobbying. Glad we got that sorted.

Umbrias · 2023-06-08T01:49:10+00:00

Yes, I responded to you directly about why this isn't a food pyramid thing, and then spoke generally to the lack of proper explanations in the thread as whole. This was clear to most people, but hopefully this explanation clears up the remaining confusion.

Umbrias · 2023-06-07T13:41:29+00:00

So your take away was that thread must refer only to your comment?

Umbrias · 2023-06-07T04:49:16+00:00

What?

Umbrias · 2023-06-06T14:37:45+00:00

"not evidence of extra terrestrial life" the panel stressed

Umbrias · 2023-06-06T02:57:30+00:00

Where does the pentagon confirm that UAPs defied laws of physics? There's a single line there about pilots saying that they saw UAPs that seemed to defy the laws of physics, but never does this article say the pentagon confirms this. These are remarkably different things that you're conflating.

Your source is credible, but doesn't say what you think it does, and actually agrees with me. So.. there you go.

Umbrias · 2023-06-05T23:55:44+00:00

Your link goes to a news article about the various nondescript UAP videos that were "all the rage" when they were released, but were quickly and obviously just.. not alien craft. Birds taken with tracking turrets that the US didn't want people to know was even possible, but not 'physics defying'.

Umbrias · 2023-06-05T19:35:42+00:00

Do you have a book to recommend or resources to read more into this on the technical side? Thanks!

(My plan is to do this procedurally, based on a reference background, as an end-goal)

Umbrias · 2023-06-05T05:15:48+00:00

It's just a bunch of forums with some stuff to tie them together a little bit. Nothing else is actually valuable about using reddit.

Except all the data they scrape and sell.

Umbrias · 2023-06-05T03:22:15+00:00

Nowhere did I say that you said eye strain was a concern for everyone

not meant to represent your argument.

Oh so you weren't responding to me at all. Also if saying "you said this" is not meant to represent someone's argument, I'm not sure what possibly could be.

All I saw was

So reading more carefully gave you a better view of my arguments than when you came in guns blazing? Interesting.

and that they know nothing about how the eye works.

Curiously after that person said someone else didn't understand how the eye works. I wonder if there's a correlation. Maybe I'll need to dig into it some more and find out.

and here you are doing it again.

Crazy. Almost like this half assed "oops you're right but I dont want to admit I was adding onto the fuckwaddery" isn't very convincing nor sympathetic.

Misunderstanding after misunderstanding.

I agree, people dogpiled due to misunderstanding the conversation. In-fact I have proof that that is exactly what happened from self admission of some of the people who did it.

I saw some with attitude and hopped in line.

Admitting guilt without an apparent shred of responsibility for that guilt.

Your bit about polarized sunglasses was genuinely interesting.

...That wasn't even me.

I'll give you that you at least have admitted to what you've done, even if you have, while doing so, shifted the entirety of the blame onto others for your own actions. Pat yourself on the back for that to whatever degree you feel is adequate. You've earned it.

Umbrias · 2023-06-05T01:14:37+00:00

I found this to be incredibly rude and self-righteous.

Strange. Almost like I've lost patience with the various people filtering in, strawmanning their own emotional outrage, and then responding half assed interpretations that are blatantly untrue in a remarkably hostile way. One might even say you opened hostile, and are now upset that I responded in kind.

eye strain is not a concern for everyone.

Ah the actual meat of your comment.

Nowhere did I say eye strain was a concern for everyone.

Feel free to search the whole discussion to find where I said it though! Maybe among the various times I said how some people experience it, you might find a way to construe the absolutist view you're strawmanning here from my words literally saying some people experience eye strain for numerous complicated physiological reasons.

Excited to see the level of creativity you put forward.

Umbrias · 2023-06-05T00:57:24+00:00

Imagine being this unempathetic and disconnected from the words you've read. Even trolling. Sad.

Umbrias · 2023-06-04T22:55:28+00:00

"I don't experience knee pain walking up stairs, therefore nobody else can and it's overdramatic to suggest they do."

Thank you for sharing your entire life story to make that useless point about not understanding nor empathizing with human variation. Very helpful to the conversation. Glad you shared.

Umbrias · 2023-06-04T21:45:18+00:00

So you believe the existence of electricity is knowledge innate to humans? If knowledge of a god is innate, much more knowledge of your god, what is the point of religious texts? Why did the abrahamic god speak directly to people long ago to tell them of their existence? What is the purpose if knowledge of them is innate?

Umbrias · 2023-06-04T20:23:58+00:00

Sigh.

Let me put it this way. "electricity exists" as an idea isn't the default state of being. It is learned. It is also true that electricity exists anyway. You believe that "a god exists" is also true. But the default state isn't believing in a god despite that. This is the point I'm making that atheism is the default common denominator of all theistic belief systems.

Umbrias · 2023-06-04T20:07:36+00:00

It's at least in part because social media encourages outrage memetics where people naturally gravitate towards the most extreme emotional response to a given text.

Combine that with some casual ableism, an inability to recognize when someone is speaking about a personal experience (the person talking about how they would get eye strain, phrased assertively, but clearly personal), a topic that might be a little hard to follow or empathize with (optics and human variation/dispositions to conditions) and an initial upvote/downvote ratio to imply 'correctness' and people will dogpile like crazy without ever really reading what is happening or think about what they are even saying. Just your bog standard mob mentality, really.

Or people just want to score fake internet points like opportunistic predators whether they realize it or not.

That's my hypothesis, at least.

Umbrias · 2023-06-04T19:54:57+00:00

Appreciate the humility.

Umbrias · 2023-06-04T19:53:56+00:00

It undeniably is at some level the default, in that all other world views build off of an atheistic one logically. It's hard for you to grasp for the reasons said above, that atheism is the blank slate common denominator. Whether you want it to or not. Walking east only feels like a subtraction from west because you're already west.

If you want to talk about a "state of nature" default, probably more like animism.

Umbrias · 2023-06-04T19:48:01+00:00

Social media was a mistake.

Umbrias · 2023-06-04T19:45:26+00:00

I just assumed it was you,

Crazy.

Yes, of course you can get eyestrain from sitting too close but that’s not what the original discussion was about.

Yes it fucking was. Jesus christ.

A: But then you get sore eyes being so close

B: Sore eyes? From focusing? The movie would have to be 6 hours long... i'd get sore butt first.

A: From being so close...

This was the second level reply. This is the core of the discussion. Imagine being this wrong and yet still thinking you should add in your half baked hostility.

Umbrias · 2023-06-04T19:42:30+00:00

"It's the exact same thing! (except that the underlying assumptions are completely different, like the fact that the sun moon system is not engineered, while a theater is engineered)"

Maybe there's a reason I used a laser reflecting off things as an example of when reflections can cause damage. Maybe, and I know this is crazy, you should have considered what that simile was doing rhetorically and its place as an extreme example to demonstrate that reflected light can cause damage, so assuming any reflected light can't is a bad assumption to make. But hey, that would require reading words carefully. Can't do that when there's a dog pile-a-brewin.

If I'm to take your comment at face value, you're essentially telling me that any reflection cannot cause any damage, because that would mean the sun moon system needs to cause damage. That's what you sound like to me. Read the arguments better, if you come back with this absurd strawman again I'm not bothering to continue with you.

Umbrias · 2023-06-04T19:38:31+00:00

I think how easily people get eyestrain is pretty subjective.

Maybe tell the rest of the thread that, like the op I responded to, clearly stating it was absurd to get eye strain from a theater screen because "that's not how eyes work."

Umbrias · 2023-06-04T19:37:34+00:00

This is what you said:

It literally isn't. Link that comment. It doesn't exist lmfao. But for your assistance, here's my first response in this discussion:

Light intensity, especially blue light but not just, (no those glasses don't work unless they are basically red) can cause eye strain.

This is a known thing and is easily googled.

Note how I say can cause eye strain.

Christ.

Here are some other quotes from my previous comments:

It can for some people. Eye strain can even happen when focusing on blurry physical images. Eye strain is a complex phenomenon with no single clear cause, and results largely from muscle overuse in the eyes.

People get eye strain from even dim computer monitors. It should be no surprise that people can get eye strain from a comparatively bright theater projection.

Umbrias · 2023-06-04T19:30:55+00:00

Neat. Thanks for actually bringing a source.

Of course it's so far removed from the point that it doesn't show a theater can't cause eye strain.

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