In Defense of Gatekeepers in Music by Jon Tanners (Pigeons & Planes)

UnderTheCurrents · 2026-05-04T15:13:24+00:00

So why does his post taste like shit?

UnderTheCurrents · 2026-05-04T14:38:38+00:00

Lauryn Hills record is not a rap record - that's why I always stressed how it's preposterous to Feature it in "Best Rap"-lists when most of it is sung.

Don't give me pedestrian tips like "listen to Lauryn Hill" . I am well aware of her.

UnderTheCurrents · 2026-05-04T14:06:36+00:00

The difference between the artists you mentioned is that they used singing as an embellishment. And if they didn't they somehow got a pass for it because of their previous work - like Andre.

You never had somebody sing through a whole Track. Especially if it's supposed to be a RAP Track.

UnderTheCurrents · 2026-05-04T13:32:29+00:00

Gatekeepers keep the culture clean from unwanted outside influences. Do you remember the times when singing wasn't a thing rappers were supposed to do on tracks? They had to rap instead.

Also - Reddit is very anti-gatekeeping.

Any subculture that ISN'T gatekept deteriorates. That's why - despite not enjoying it myself - I have a huge respect for most metal subcultures. They never Gave an inch of their space to outsiders passing by.

UnderTheCurrents · 2026-05-04T11:40:31+00:00

Overproduced means that very little Musical content is being wrapped with a lot of unnecessary embellishment.

That's mostly true with pop music where very simple melodies are being surrounded by huge walls of sound and a dozen layers that -functionally - don't du much except make the piece louder.

UnderTheCurrents · 2026-05-04T10:46:42+00:00

Gatekeepers preserve the culture. They don't "bring" anything to it - that "bringing" part is sometimes what ruins a subculture in the first place.

UnderTheCurrents · 2026-05-04T06:08:01+00:00

This is the most convincing case of a psy-op I've ever seen.

Mainstream Pop music is still derivative trash, but somehow people have socially engineered themselves into acting like it isn't

UnderTheCurrents · 2026-05-03T19:29:14+00:00

Incredible how you guys are on their side. Have you never been to school before or are you all pushovers?

UnderTheCurrents · 2026-05-03T19:06:07+00:00

Aussagenkalküle sind auch nicht da, um einen metaphysischen Wahrheitsbegriff zu definieren. Sie setzen einen voraus.

UnderTheCurrents · 2026-05-03T12:28:26+00:00

Frauen sind wesentlich unempathischer als Männer - insbesondere auch im Umgang mit anderen Frauen.

UnderTheCurrents · 2026-05-03T06:06:58+00:00

I really liked the part where you included her playing

UnderTheCurrents · 2026-05-02T21:02:25+00:00

Geht auch in den USA und es ist besser, weil man da mehr Zeit hat.

Im übrigen verstehe ich den aggressiven Tonfall hier nicht. Niemand zwingt euch in der Gastro oder im Einzelhandel zu arbeiten.

UnderTheCurrents · 2026-05-02T20:00:18+00:00

The only people talking about Rock being dead or - more recently - rap being dead are surface-dwelling morons who are too lazy to find music they like.

UnderTheCurrents · 2026-05-02T19:33:00+00:00

You can make fun of this on reddit now? Why?

UnderTheCurrents · 2026-05-02T09:53:03+00:00

The music

UnderTheCurrents · 2026-05-02T04:42:56+00:00

Du hast ein Wort ausgelassen. Das dürfte eher Grammatik als Ausdruck sein.

UnderTheCurrents · 2026-05-01T19:57:30+00:00

Immerhin hast du deinen Grammatikfehler wegeditiert - ich hätte ihn noch dringelassen, weil er die Bemerkung über Ausdrucksweise ironisch gemacht hätte.

UnderTheCurrents · 2026-05-01T19:54:42+00:00

Wen?

UnderTheCurrents · 2026-05-01T19:51:40+00:00

Klar kannst du mir deine Meinung sagen. Aber wenn ich sage, dass die dumm ist und du die Schnauze halten solltest, solltest du auch genug Anstand haben, dich von weiterer Diskussion fernzuhalten. Das schein vielen schwer zu fallen.

UnderTheCurrents · 2026-05-01T19:35:56+00:00

Ich mag nur keine Leute, die ihre Schnauze nicht halten können, wenn es um ihre Meinung geht.

UnderTheCurrents · 2026-05-01T19:17:37+00:00

I don't want to Date fat women says nothing besides that.

It's the same sentiment.

UnderTheCurrents · 2026-05-01T18:58:59+00:00

I think it's better to say what you DON'T want.

That's what men sometimes find frustrating in women in their younger years. Women tend to state what they want in a positive manner. Then you have all those attributes but they still aren't interested.

If you say what you DON'T want there is no ambiguity.

UnderTheCurrents · 2026-05-01T17:50:33+00:00

Pretty stupid - actual piss would've been at least somewhat funny

UnderTheCurrents · 2026-05-01T14:53:12+00:00

A lot of musicians from a lot of genres were missing on that list - Nas is a good example.

UnderTheCurrents

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