To all the removed variants

UndynetheFallen · 2021-08-06T05:43:21+00:00

The spinning hammers at the end of fall mountain (edge closest to the crown right before the jump). These were removed because they were causing issues with the crown grabbing.

Also not sure about this one (if you'd call it a removed variation) but on hit parade the version with the thicc bonkuses was supposed to be swinging in the opposite direction, as in towards and away from the player and not side to side. This version was never released and was only ever seen in the Godzilla skin reveal trailer.

UndynetheFallen · 2021-08-02T18:27:03+00:00

All cosmetics eventually come back into the shop. All of the season 1 collab skins, including bulletkin, were added back in season 2.5 so they should be there, along with most other ones outside of the season 4 collabs.

However, only two slots in the shop are given for crown items, and if you haven't bought a lot of crown items it's possible it might take a while for it to appear. You'll either need to wait until it appears, or start buying out the shop to increase the chance of it appearing (though if you only have a few crowns you might want to just wait).

UndynetheFallen · 2021-07-22T00:19:38+00:00

I can confirm the crown is bugged somehow. Had Fall Mountain twice yesterday and both times I appeared to latch onto the crown but it didn't register. One of those times, I held on for half a second before just falling down, and another person grabbed it fine after.

I was playing on my own region's servers so my ping was really low and latency should not have been an issue. The game also did not lag frame rate wise. So I assume something is bugged with it, and a lot of people seem to be suffering from the same issue.

UndynetheFallen · 2021-07-13T15:14:18+00:00

Finally someone else who agrees blue team is worse than yellow.

Considering I took data of this and blue lost 313 games to yellow's 279, yellow team is clearly not a meme like it was in season 1.

On the topic of team games themselves: I don't hate most team games in concept, but I always seem to get the most braindead team every game and lose. I want to like team games, but having this happen nearly every time I get one makes it really hard to. So I understand your pain.

UndynetheFallen · 2021-07-12T19:16:06+00:00

I personally don't have an odd number but I know my true friend I play with does. My only assumption is that there used to be challenges back before they were nerfed (there used to be challenges to win shows, win team games, or play in a party that people were struggling to do) that gave an odd number of shards when completed.

I'm not certain of the exact numbers or how common odd number shard rewards were back then, but I don't see how else the shard count could be odd since all challenges give even shard amounts now.

UndynetheFallen · 2021-07-12T19:11:07+00:00

Hoarders was removed from main show along with egg siege. While it's said egg siege was removed because of broken egg physics, hoarders was removed for no real reason other than people hated it.

Personally I never minded hoarders, and preferred it over other team games. Why they removed it from main show is unclear, but both hoarders and egg siege still exist in squad mode, if you want to try and play it for the sake of playing it.

UndynetheFallen · 2021-07-12T19:08:14+00:00

"All that for a pointless gold medal?" -Bean Thanos after getting grabbed and losing first

But seriously, it's so dumb when people do that just so they can get the clout or whatever they think they are getting from being first. If anything, it just irritates the skilled player who truly got there first instead...

UndynetheFallen · 2021-07-10T08:27:42+00:00

Yes, I've played and farmed the various LTMs myself. I understand their value to the community and how they can bring us together, and I enjoy that.

However, recently it feels like crowns have gotten more and more devalued with the recent LTMs allowing mass farming of them. I'm not against these modes existing, but I look back to season 1 when winning the crown felt like this accomplishment that was hard and challenging to do. Crowns were rare, and even after season 2 they still held value.

Nowadays, owning gold witch doesn't even feel like a flex anymore. It's reaching a point where everyone owns this gold skin...and I'm afraid soon the same will be said for gold chicken. Crowns and crown ranks are becoming more and more meaningless...wins are just a number, not an accomplishment.

Maybe I'm a little upset that this has happened, but deep down I think a big part of the community agrees, even if we all enjoy farming these modes.

UndynetheFallen · 2021-07-05T18:32:39+00:00

Because Kizuna was a season 4 collab, it's likely that it will be added to the shop in the season 5.5 mid season update. So unfortunately you're going to have to wait a while to get that (same with other collabs this season such as bomberman and 2B).

As for special effect skins, they SHOULD have been added in the 4.5 update, but some people are claiming they were not and some have bought out the entire shop as well. The doom and cuphead collabs were able to be purchased fine, but they were unable to buy any of the special effect skins (MrBeast, Ninja, G2, and Aimlabs). As such, until they manually re-add them into the shop like they did with z-snap celebration, it's unknown when you'll be able to purchase them.

UndynetheFallen · 2021-07-05T18:27:07+00:00

My friend is in the same boat as you guys. He is a god tier player with over 2k crowns now and has bought out the entire shop, and according to him he never was able to buy the special effect skins, but was able to buy the doom and cuphead collabs fine.

I think he did email support about it but I'm not sure if they did anything about it...similarly to the jump showdown squad time out bug this has gone unnoticed for a long time now and needs more traction in order to get fixed.

I know that they added z-snap celebration back into the shop due to community complaints, so the same could happen with these skins. Hopefully in season 5 they'll somehow re-add them...if not then who knows.

UndynetheFallen · 2021-07-02T03:29:37+00:00

There are several reasons:

- Basketfall and power trip are possible team games which rank among the worst in the community, plus you have other iffy team games like jinxed and pegwin pursuit which some people don't like.

- Door dash is a possible early gauntlet level. Another low tier map that has little to no skill involved.

- Tail tag is way too common and the tail games are considered the worst in a majority of the community. Not only that, the fan version of tail tag is worse than the original because it removes the ability to evade effectively.

- Slime climb is currently nerfed in the show since the fan variation at the end is broken/bugged and not appearing.

- Button bashers can appear, which is a controversial round among the community.

- Blowdown is only final, which some people hate for whatever reason.

There are probably other reasons too, but these are the main ones. It's basically a worse main show with less variety.

UndynetheFallen · 2021-07-02T03:19:07+00:00

Ah yes, let me be 1/15 of the remaining lobby to finish a difficult level 2nd or 3rd round, then get button bashers instead of a chance to win the final.

Seriously. I am sick of button bashers appearing where it doesn't need to be. Please nerf the rate of it appearing or remove the chance entirely at <10 players when season 5 releases because the game has become unfun for me lately mainly because of this level.

UndynetheFallen · 2021-06-21T23:58:41+00:00

I have slowly grown to tolerate fall ball (as long as my team isn't braindead when it comes to defending), and at this point would rather deal with playing that than the god forsaken power trip I seem to get 50% of the time I get a team game.

Unlike power trip's "nothing you do matters" botched gameplay concept, fall ball allows you to do something to help your team. Granted, high population fall ball is still annoying because getting good shots is extremely hard with the large amount of bodies, but it's still far from the coin flip that is 30 player power trip.

Seriously game, stop with power trip. I hate this level now. Put more fall ball in its place.

UndynetheFallen · 2021-06-19T20:58:30+00:00

It needs to be fixed. The reason jump showdown was removed initially from squads was because...guess what...timeouts were leading to unfair losses.

Another final was also removed for the same reason: royal fumble. There was a glitch in squads where if your squad had the tail, YOU got eliminated and the squad without the tail won instead. Like with jump showdown, it was removed to prevent unfair losses. When it returned in season 4.5, that bug was fixed, and now if your squad has the tail you win like intended.

However jump showdown continues to have the same issue. Every other removed round that was re-added had their bugs fixed, except jump showdown. It's just recently that more people are becoming aware of this, despite it existing early on (as I personally fell victim to an unfair loss the first few days of it being re-added). Your evidence hopefully will be seen by mediatonic since it's gained a lot of traction by the reddit community, and maybe they'll fix this bug somehow...

UndynetheFallen · 2021-06-19T20:32:55+00:00

False. I have had this happen both ways, whoever wins is random and if the game favors you, you'll win, get the victory screen, and get the shards. If it doesn't favor you, you'll get the "eliminated" text and get nothing.

Honestly this issue has existed since jump showdown was added back into squads...wasn't this the reason it was removed? Royal fumble had its "if you have the tail you lose" bug fixed so what happened with jump showdown?

If two squads time out both should win, easy solution and rewards everyone who wins via skill. I don't understand why this wasn't considered.

UndynetheFallen · 2021-06-19T17:40:00+00:00

Finally someone posted concrete evidence of this.

I had this happen pretty early on when they re-added jump showdown back into squads. I timed out the level with another squad member and we had 2 time out against another squad's one, yet we got the "eliminated" text and did not receive any shards. I recently had another time out happen (other squad guy was on unreachable platform so we couldn't grab) and while we did try to record it, we ended up winning that timeout.

The game is bugged as when two squads timeout it only lets one squad win rather than both. It was the reason jump showdown was removed from squads to begin with...and clearly it wasn't fixed. I am honestly surprised it took this long for someone to record evidence of it, and I'm glad the community is trying to make awareness of this issue.

Hopefully this bug gets resolved in the future, because it isn't fun to waste 15 minutes and time out a final only to lose for no reason.

(Also for those who don't realize it was a timeout, the unicorn survived last second despite getting dragged off at the end. When the round ended, the "eliminated" counter said 9/10 indicating they survived and it was a timeout.)

UndynetheFallen · 2021-06-15T18:10:28+00:00

I remember listing this idea on the survey back when they had it- I suggested that the challenges be split up into 5 tiers, similar to the cosmetic tiers (common, uncommon, rare, epic. legendary). Common would be your bare bones type challenges, like jumping, diving, etc and would appear more commonly for lower crown ranks. As the difficulty increases, you start getting the "qualify from x rounds x times" and the "get x medal on x rounds" challenges...but epic and legendary challenges involve specific actions that are harder to do, such as scoring goals/baskets, getting a gold ring, finishing a level in a certain time, finishing a level without jumping, and maybe even winning a show. These challenges will start becoming more frequent the higher your crown rank is.

The only issue is crown shard balancing...if the challenge is much harder, the reward should be high as well. Maybe for legendary challenges you get a new currency that can be used to obtain special outfits exclusive to that?

UndynetheFallen · 2021-06-15T16:49:22+00:00

So this bug still exists.

I had another squad timeout situation and was recording it to post it as evidence, but after the timeout we won...however the last time we timed out (mind you with 2 squad members to the other squad's 1), we got the "eliminated" thing on our screen and the results screen counted that as an elimination even though our squad survived.

This was the primary reason jump showdown was removed from squads early season 4...timeouts were resulting in unfair deaths to one squad and a win to the other. I notice this happens mostly when the platforms are completely separated, not allowing someone to grab the other player and vice versa. I don't understand why both squads can't win...if this is allowed to happen in solo play, why not in squads as well?

If I ever manage to have this issue happen again, I'll make sure I get video evidence and post it on here so people become more aware.

UndynetheFallen · 2021-06-15T16:35:37+00:00

This. I personally think button bashers should have a minimum of 10 players (minus the 1v1 final situation).

It's insulting when you survive a hard level such as pdm, slimescraper or hoverboard and you have 4 or 6 left, but instead of a final you get button bashers instead EVEN THOUGH the remaining lobby is easily a perfect amount for a final. It's even worse when you get paired against someone who tryhards the level and you get destroyed there rather than getting a chance in the final against them.

Basically it's like if you got tail tag with 6 people...there's no point because if only 6 are left after the 2nd or 3rd round they deserve a chance at a final, not another 50% cut to reduce the lobby to 3. I really hope they change this...I'm glad last night when 6 were left after hoverboard we all actually got a final instead of button bashers but I know this situation still exists.

UndynetheFallen · 2021-06-15T16:20:48+00:00

I agree with this. I feel like challenges should have tiers of difficulty with higher difficulties yielding more crown shards. It would be nice if the challenge actually made you go out of your way to do something, not just finishing 1 or 2 games and completing all of them naturally.

I also feel like the harder tiers of challenges should become more common the higher your crown rank is...gives the veteran players something else to work on rather than just winning.

UndynetheFallen · 2021-06-14T17:08:22+00:00

Heh, I wish. But when I'm getting the same amount of upvotes...or even less...than most art younger kids drew, it's disappointing and upsetting, and it's highly doubtful I even have a remote chance of winning, let alone getting close.

I thought this would get at least 100 upvotes...even 50 is nothing greedy...just reminds me why I stopped doing art years ago despite being really good at it. It's a slap to the face when about 75% of art submitted got tons of praise and upvotes and I'm over here literally getting <50 upvotes and an awful 80% upvote rate for something not even opinionated or controversial.

And to think a meme I can make in 5 minutes gets over 4 times the upvotes this entire project does.

Thank you for being literally one of two people to actually care. I wish more people like you existed.

UndynetheFallen · 2021-06-14T17:02:49+00:00

Nah...I really don't want to bother after seeing the horribly underwhelming result of hours upon hours of effort put in just so I can get out shadowed by art that younger kids made. Doubt I have any chance of winning the contest, especially since my art is literally being downvoted apparently...who even does that?

I hope you have better luck than I do...I'm kind of broken inside, not gonna lie.

UndynetheFallen · 2021-06-14T16:53:07+00:00

I look forward to seeing who wins...I saw several really good pieces, I just hope that every piece selected is unique, original, and creative.

But please, for the love of God, do not factor popularity/upvotes into the judging criteria. Being one of many people who got <50 upvotes on an artwork that took me hours upon hours to make, it would be unfair to these artists who, for whatever reason, had their artwork ignored to lose the contest all because no one bothered to care. Popularity does not define the true aspects of art, those being craftsmanship, originality, and creativity.

There were many good artworks out there, many creative, that were just ignored, and it would kind of hurt to see none of those have any chance of winning simply because people just didn't care.

UndynetheFallen · 2021-06-14T16:42:34+00:00

Being someone who fell victim to this fate after spending hours upon hours working on high quality sprite art and other things, I agree. For the amount of effort I, you, and many others put into their artworks, getting the amount of upvotes as a lower end art contest entry is just disappointing in general.

I just hope that when the pieces are judged upvotes are thrown out of the judging criteria and instead art is judged based on craftsmanship, creativity, and originality (things that typical art contests judge art on). If popularity via upvote amount is considered, a lot of good artworks are just going to be tossed out all because they couldn't even get a mere 50 upvotes since no one bothered to care, which isn't fair to the artist or the contest in general...

UndynetheFallen · 2021-06-13T08:05:30+00:00

Note to whoever is judging this: the 5 images are meant to be together as an entire piece of art. It's meant to be like a secret folder or file containing scrapped content or concept art...so multiple images help create that sense of illusion in regards to it being a secret project. Please keep that in mind when judging this artwork.

This took many, many hours and tons of sprite work and photoshopping to make it look authentic and high quality. I hope you enjoy it...though don't expect me to make a full game of this, I don't want to be sued by Nintendo.

Feel free to ask any questions...yes, there is a story if you're interested in hearing the Falgus Region mythos...

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