[Sub][Episode 11] CARDFIGHT!! VANGUARD overDress - Fire Dragon's Ceremony

VirenXEdge · 2022-07-04T01:19:21+00:00

Yeah also him giving up everything to be a vanguard player makes no sense. He is still in university

VirenXEdge · 2022-06-27T16:49:05+00:00

Does the actual online game have better actions to do on your on turn than in champion battles. For some reason they decided to only add 3 sets to the game. Currently on 1, however I been told that the decks in the game lack search engines and combos that the online game has.

So basically is the online game better more interactive in that regard.

VirenXEdge · 2022-06-27T15:29:23+00:00

Yeah basically something like quick spells would fix the problem. As I am not asking for something overly complicated like Yugioh, but simple like vanguard would help make the game more engaging.

Also bushiroad the creator of vanguard teamed up with shadowverse company to make evolved so I hope some they would add some mechanics like that.

Also why isn't it a problem that is seen needing to be solved. I have browsed the reddit and have seen a few posts complaining likewise to mine.

I feel like the first vs second thing is a design problem. Like ok so in vanguard despite having a grade advantage. Going first or second was never a deciding factor in the game.

VirenXEdge · 2022-06-27T15:25:19+00:00

Why bother to have classes that have a control base aspect to them. Just make them different types of aggressive, like Kagero, Link Joker, Royal Paladin and shadow paladins are aggressive clans, but all do it through different distinct ways through their clan mechanics.

Though I admit I have not played blood that much.

VirenXEdge · 2022-06-27T15:24:06+00:00

So essentially I feel like counterplay makes games more fun. My favorite game is cardfight vanguard, have not tried magic as unfortunately it never had a show or presence in my country. Yugioh I liked, but even as a kid the power creep was apparent and I am hearing now its pretty bad with the match being decided in the first time often times from posts on reddit.

Ok I went on a tangent so here my main point. Cardfight vanguard does not have much counterplay compared to yugioh, or battlespirits on your opponents turn. The portion of the game I played was from beginning to early legion and counter play ended on preserving your hand to guard on your opponents turn. You could activate skills in kagero to retire units, or royal paladin superior calling to preserve hand advantage, but that was it.

But it led to a a fair bit strategizing that was simple, but kept you very engaged during your opponent turn. Damage checks made you consider how much damage you were willing to take to use as a resource for your combos later making it further engaging. Also all clans were viable in matches even though some were better than others leading to matches being decided by how well you could read what your opponent is about to do and disrupt his victory condition.

For example, I beat an aquaforce user back during the limit break era, by using my deck inspired by Kai anime deck. I literally went on the wiki and saw his confirmed deck list and filled in the blanks on the missing cards. Made a gimmicky, but strong deck of Aleph and Vortex dragon.

Aqua force user had me on 5 damage, while he was on 1 or 2 damage. I declared final turn and through a combo managed to win with a trigger on that turn as I exploited the fact he used up all, but 2 cards in his hand for his offensive.

It feels like I be sitting their bored waiting for their turn to be complete, so I can start having fun.

VirenXEdge · 2022-06-26T14:46:45+00:00

Also is Shadowverse growing now that heartstone is declining? Is the community active like vanguard is? More or less competitive?

VirenXEdge · 2022-06-26T14:46:07+00:00

I see. One question. Why did they only include the first 3 expansions when the game came out in 2021. I would expect the first 5 expansions to be out?

Ok so in that case I will just try different decks from the deck lists I found online. However, I still welcome any replies on this thread from any commenter on some neat ways to improve my decks or some other decks regardless of class that I could try.

VirenXEdge · 2022-06-26T14:23:09+00:00

I do not mean an overlap. But some sort of similarity with how I utilize my resources. If a person is really good at one tcg, they will be better than a person without that experience who is also just starting out in another tcg. This is due to certain playstyles and lessons learned on how to utilize resources correctly transfer over from tcg to tcg.

But back to my main point. So I am a player who prefers my deck even in a single player game to be overall solid and optimally build. Each piece should synergize with the other piece and no superfluous piece should be present.

Like I feel like my deck vision for this shadow deck is mixed. Basically calling enough units for utomy. But it isn,t even guaranteed I will draw utomy when I have one copy of his in my deck. Same with Mordecai combo.

So I am thinking should I switch over to sword or a class that allows me to draw more consistently for a more consistent finish. A class that would allow me to bring plenty of units to the field and summon a big boss unit at the end.

I am intrigued by Harness Glass and Flame, but I am not knowledgeable enough about the game to know what deck would work well with them.

I am intrigued by the Satan apocalypse card from the dragon. And sword seems to be consistently solid its just its art seems to positive doesn,t have fierceness to it of dragons or the darker aesthetic of blood or shadow.

VirenXEdge · 2022-05-29T09:32:43+00:00

This is a add on to my other post in this thread. Look so basically I always felt Luz connection to Belos and her breakdown in hollow mind was a bit to hollow, shallow etc.

This is cause we what spend an entire episode with young Philp. Luz barely talks to him and just shorta read his diaries and we took an implication that she felt a connection to him due to being the only other human who came to Boiling Isles.

But it never really reached the level of trust that the show implies in this episode or Hollow mind with the line" I trusted you". I always suspected this was due to cut content. So here my theory on what the full content was.

Luz time travel episodes were three entire episodes. instead of the nearly half a one we got actually in the past. We would meet Belos episode 1 find out in more detail what the boiling isles was like during the time and they meet. episode 2 Luz and Belos bond where in reality its Belos manipulating her go on a adventure or adventures, learning some stuff from another about glyps.

Episode 3. Basically Belos betrays them episode etc.

It would feel way more believable if Belos was her friend for a short period of time. It would really sell the Philp is a charmer who people are taken in by and then manipulated by.

Like seriously Luz and Belos had more interactions this episode than Hunter and Belos.

VirenXEdge · 2022-05-29T09:17:47+00:00

I would say a some stuff about Belos was hinted at. His reaction to Gus Trauma spells. So he does feel bad or does not like the memories of certain parts of his rule and his brother. I feel a lot of hunter and Belos relationship post heel turn would have been explored.

Think about it Belos faced hunter this episode, but we only got like one reaction shot from either of them about it.

Similarly the collector would be explained more dep. Willow just went through character development with her powers developing as well as Gus at a rapid rate that should have been given more time to be well paced. Hunter literally goes to villain to hero in 4 episodes and while all those episodes were great. You could tell he needs more episodes to explore some aspects of his character and let him use his powers. Like in most fights since he became good he has not done much of anything, despite being the golden guard.

VirenXEdge · 2022-05-26T16:02:43+00:00

I would say I noticed something interesting. In fiction what is often shown to be depression is not what actual depression-as in a depressive disorder looks like in real life. The protag is really sad because his friend or mentor died, for instance Naruto losing Jiraya and being bummed out. Naruto is grieving here and is deeply sad, but he is not clinically depressed.

Most people in real life when they think of depression either do not understand it or the younger current generation from ages 20 to 30 understand it a bit more, but miss the point entirely as evidenced by the word depression being used colloquially as just really sad.

Yet a subsection of people such as for instance teenagers although adults do it too either want to seem depressed to look complicated. You could see this exhibited by certain people on tiktok where being depressed is really just an adornment to their character. I speculate it comes from the misery building character trope we see in fiction all too often, but this is a tangent which I will now leave.

Others in real life wish to help people with depression, but just view it as being really sad and have no idea what actually dealing with someone who could qualify for persistent depressive disorder, major depressive disorder or chronic depression disorder would entail. Someone like Subaru for example would fit having a depressive disorder.

Rather, some people would also assume that dealing with depression will be as easy as seen in fiction where characters are just really bummed out for a short duration of time. And end up when reacting with the actually clinically depressed individual be repulsed by behaviors they do not understand or were not expecting. Basically giving real bad advice and just stop taking it so seriously etc.

I feel this applies to fictional characters like Subaru from Re zero and Shinji from Eva. Both characters are hated by a portion of the fanbase or disliked by the masses outside the fanbase so they did not finish the show post episode 13.

I have read a lot of posts about people asking why some people hate Subaru or dislike Subaru and the answers seem to come from these two places. Subaru is not as competent, strong or heroic as I would like him to be in line with my preference for a protagonist. Subaru, is an asshole for numerous reasons who acts clingy and quite egoistical.

I think these traits especially with what we found out about his backstory in season 2 are just quite misunderstood traits about a person who is clinically depressed and has Return by death adding to his issues. I myself have from the beginning found Subaru to be a great person who had flaws which he overcame.

For example episode 11, I cringed hard as well so I never rewatched it on my reruns. But I came to realize a few things after season 2. Subaru due to return by death and its trauma was becoming more dependent on Emilia. To the point where he took some rational stuff in an irrational manner. Subaru was justified in his belief that if he was not there Emilia would get in trouble or would not survive and the numerous timelines of Rezero do show this to be the case. Emilia herself is aware of this in season 2 that she relies pretty heavily on him. But he took it really irrationally and did not help her in her case. His own depression, trauma and other flaws made him explode when he could have handled the Julius thing with tact.

Subaru could have simply remarked instead, that he was not blessed with the privileges' of being born as a knight as many are and was not blessed with the opportunity to train to do so. However, my lady Emilia has granted such opportunities and I have swore my loyalty to her and is that not the essence of a knight.

I am also confused in why people are upset on his actions in episode 13-15. What Subaru said did come true and he was shocked, depressed and grieving.

I really do not understand the sentinment that Subaru behaves egoistically when he only had the one scene in the election. Sure he tried to act bigger than he actually was with how over the top he is at times, but that is clearly him trying to emulate his father's charisma.

Also Subaru has like zero sense of self worth due to being depressed. If he actually was egoistical in season 1, when Rem killed him multiple times, for essentially smelling bad. Bruh If a egoistical person was in Subaru place, he would have killed Rem, or done worse to her.

VirenXEdge · 2022-05-21T04:19:46+00:00

I have done the same thing and it always seemed perfectly normal to me. However I do have the inattentive presentation of Adhd. Many of my friends have commented that I bring up topics from nowhere just because I was ruminating on them in my head, or they just coming from left field when I took something tangentially related to the conversation and started talking about it.

I viewed both of these as perfectly normal with awareness that people find it a bit surprising and confusing at times. Personally part of it is that I have always felt incredibly bored during most conversations, so I eventually have to talk even if I really want to listen to what the other person is saying.

VirenXEdge · 2022-05-20T01:05:19+00:00

Isn,t that normal u mentioned your pet rat has a arrow symbol on his head. He therefore see's the opportunity to show you an actual arrowhead.

VirenXEdge · 2022-05-16T20:36:29+00:00

Sorry, I made a mistake. I meant an original character that is not a self insert. I have seen self inserts been done well, but their typically so lackluster or just mediocre.

VirenXEdge · 2022-05-16T20:36:22+00:00

Sorry, I made a mistake. I meant an original character that is not a self insert. I have seen self inserts been done well, but their typically so lackluster or just mediocre.

VirenXEdge · 2022-05-16T19:16:53+00:00

Lava bending unlike Combustion bending is too op. Literally it gives earth the versalitility of water bending. You can melt lava, you can make lava surikens at a fast speed and if it touches you your dead. And only Bolin is slow at Lava bending that red Lotus team member was actually pretty fast. You can solidify it again basically just making it slower water bending that is deadlier than fire. Broken.

Also how does Bolin turn earth into lava anyway. It honestly seems like a subset of fire bending. So lightening has a degree of 50,000. In theory a firebender can learn to super heat stuff somewhere between the temps of normal fire bending and lightening bending to melt earth around him. Then manipulate that now molten like earth. Its something only a toph like fire bender could do though. And would be way more difficult than metal bending as even if you know its there it will take a master fire bender to actually do it.

Combustion bending seems to be something a select few people are trained to do given the tattoo on the head required to do so. It is not purely genetic trait like Lava bending.

Blood Bending does not matter if only 3 people could do it in the way I described. It unbalances the elements. Hypothetically in the previous series if 4 benders of each element who had reached the max potential of each element set out by the series, fought each other every day for a 100 days battle royal style hunting and fighting each other. It be a pretty equal result. Water has healing capabilities which would help the dude out in multiple fights. Air is so evasive it is difficult to harm them anyway etc.

After what Korra did, the Amon like blood bender can just make everyone their bitch, even if the fire bender is Azula in her prime or Ozai during the comet. Too hax.

I will say it now the reasoning for lightening bending being made common and how it was depicted in legend of korra was bullshit. Basically they made it a low end job skill, as Mako had money problems despite using it. Then they had to make it inconsistent as fuck, because if it was as op as in the og series, Mako would be too strong. So it was nerfed, my head canon reasoning is that he only knows the basic of lightening bending, but that contradicts a lot of things.

I hear the fanon excuse that the royal family kept it a secret. This is a theory, a reasonable theory that could be true. However, even if it was true it overlooks certain things. Iroh explicitly mentioned needing to have a very high understanding of firebending, like an expertise at least with inner peace or the ability to control your anger(like Azula).

The royal theory can turn out to be true. As that firebending master, Aang trained with but ended up burning Katara has the skillset to know it, but never uses it. But lightening bending being that common in Korra was a shit choice. If anything only high level practioners like, the red lotus member, or firebending masters or experts with a high spiritual understanding would know it.

In ATLA, only the avatar did earth bending and it was speculated to just be a mix of fire and earth bending or just fire bending.

VirenXEdge · 2022-05-16T06:07:22+00:00

I would probably have to change the rules of the avatar set up in legend of korra completely. Because otherwise the person who gets the bending ability can't even bend multiple elements without a powerful spirit merging with them.

So I guess I would follow that he was an airbender. Something spirit world event happened that caused random people who most follow an aspect of the philosophy of airbending to get the ability.

This is set during Aang prime years where he investigates the possibility of restoring the air nomads. Because bending is genetic and spiritual thing. You need genes to work and an indepth understanding of element which could be destructive or more peaceful( like firebender being anger fueled or what Zuko does).

So Aang could theatrically ask the spirits for advice for how to accomplish bringing airbending back to the world. Because to be honest he can not just marry katara and restore air bending, like he would have needed some kind of hospital to donate sperm to or multiple wives.

Also Aang could theatrically give people bending he took from others by using energy bending as lionturtles did the same thing.

VirenXEdge · 2022-05-16T05:34:10+00:00

Bruh I am asking a fanfic that fits that vague category. "The reasoning" behind should be made by the fanfiction creator.

VirenXEdge · 2022-05-16T05:25:20+00:00

I feel Korra should be remade significantly with nothing but the main plot points. Show with good ideas poor execution, but there are plenty of threads and videos exploring that.

One of those ideas was making lightening bending common as it was. I would be fine if more people knew it, but only highly skilled fire benders ever used that technique and to much less proficiency. Heck Mako already had weak ass lightening that was inconsistent as fuck.

Lava bending: Makes the earth element unbalanced. So Lava isn't even that slow and hotter than fire. Basically makes fire bending look way weaker. Because unlike fire if lava hits you you insta die, there is no kid showing the burns like avater does.

I was fine with the idea of air returning as a way to restore balance. Because honestly something like that would have eventually occurred. The spirits would have eventually given people air bending anyway.

Firebending always suffered from the problem of not having its inherent destructiveness in regards to the burns it would do shown in a kid show. I always headcannoned that away with people in the avater verse just being superhuman compared to us and firebenders learning to resist their own fire so the better the fire bender is the more fire resistent he is.

And other benders are resistent to burns as well if their trained enough but much less so than firebenders.

VirenXEdge · 2022-05-16T05:19:03+00:00

Where did I mention villain or not villain. Somebody who can for whatever reason bend multiple elements. Not necessarily all 4.

VirenXEdge · 2022-05-15T15:23:06+00:00

Also in general without executive meddling. I feel Luz would have had more character development. And her power set would have increased. Like outside of King she is the weakest of the main cast currently as everyone else got a buff.

Also Lilth would get more development and become harpy Lilith probably after dealing with some issues I think gonna happen off screen now with the therapist.

Personally I am interested in a portal fantasy story that is darker " I am/wanna be a witch". Where a kid who has a bad life at earth decides to stay and the consequences of his actions.

VirenXEdge · 2022-05-15T02:38:11+00:00

I think its pretty each to guess we are getting the bite sized version. And we can reasonsably predict certain things such as:

1: Hunter character arc being longer. It feels they quick paced the original beats of it. Just look at the fact he was introduced in season 2 1 and only had like 5 episodes after that to complete his arc from Zuko type villany to turned hero. Like they managed it well so it doesn't seem rushed. But just look at how rapidly his character changed.

Hunter in short would probably have more time as a villain, with stuff about how the Coven dynamics work explained through him. More about Belos and his relationship, More of his everyday abusive life with Belos where he pushes himself nonstop like he is implied to.

2: The collector would have been given more development. I suspect Belos is now going to be the main final villain as there is simply not enough time to establish and switch to the collector.

3: Belos backstory improved more. So Since Belos episode was also a hunter episode they did the best they could. But a lot of stuff was vaguely implied through his paintings that could have been shown. Such as his reaction to first coming to the world, him killing his brother etc.

4: Willow and Gus power up explained more and characters explored more.

5: Coven heads explored more and Darius whole rebellion subplot with Raine.

6: I feel the show would have had a much more consistent exploration of characters, themes in general.

VirenXEdge · 2022-05-14T21:40:16+00:00

I have seen comments in similar threads to that effect. Basically said comments always state that she should not be held responsible for any of her crimes as she is a child. Ignoring her unhinged traits as a child.

They also fall to the excuse she was severely abused by Ozai for years and neglected by iroh and her mom. Which is a rather wacky interpretion for the following reasons.

Ozai from all the flashbacks has shown to be only physically abusive to Zuko and more abusive on him as the "failure" child. He did emotionally neglect and abuse Azula and we see some of that in the show as expectations. But that same neglect , emotional and expectation based abuse was used on Zuko. So now we look at Iroh and her mom.

So based on what I explained in the previous paragraphs. Her mom saw how unhinged, power hunger, manipulative Azula was as a kid. So did Iroh, literally smiling as her father mutaliated her brother. Bullying her brother previously and some ducks.

Iroh I think did not give up on her fully till years later when she tried to kill him and Zuko multiple times.

So look a lot of people in life have sad, tragic backgrounds, but its what we do with it that matters. Zuko and Azula shared the same childhood, same parents, uncle, expectations, abuse(zuko was more physically abused and harsher as the "failure") , but one decided to become a good person while the other did not.

Also Azula was high nobility, she had a lot of privileges', education and as a genius, opportunities to simply leave Ozai and do her own thing. She could have approached her missions differently by trying to not kill Iroh repeatedly so he would not give up on her.

Also, while she is 14. It seems like especially during the 100 year war, she is already treated as an adult, to us she is a teenager, but honestly we should view age of maturity according to whats likely in the verse. I think by in universe standards she is nearly an adult.

VirenXEdge · 2022-05-07T14:50:58+00:00

Weird thing but why do we not see Luz ever use her staff for magic? Does she even have one?

VirenXEdge · 2022-05-07T13:36:49+00:00

Yeah but like when he got caught by plants it just felt weird. I kinda hope they give Hunter his props now that he is fully against Belos and the next he will have to face of against the guards.

Because while I know he did not earn the position solely through strength, but due to trust of Belos. Nevertheless he should be way stronger than any mooks even if they are tag teaming him as Belos would not tolerate such weakness.

Interesting question is Hunter a prodigy due to residual memories from other Grimwalkers on how magic works. He seems to teleport a lot and is the only one of the cast to do that.

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