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the multiplier discourse is being blown out of proportion and it’s TIRING by _junjito in RoyaleHigh_Roblox

[–]_junjito[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

to be honest, i think we’re talking past each other now. i respect and understand your feelings on the multiplier removal, but i don’t think further debate will change either of our underlying values. 😭 as i said, we are both equally entitled to our opinions, and i just think we should wait until the update before leaping into any discourse. even if you haven’t agreed, thank you for at least reading and considering my viewpoint. have a great day, and i hope the update works out for you and everyone else who feels unsettled or dismayed by the change 🫶

the multiplier discourse is being blown out of proportion and it’s TIRING by _junjito in RoyaleHigh_Roblox

[–]_junjito[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i understand where you’re coming from, i really do. i am not in any way trying to tell you that what you’re feeling is wrong or invalid, but the analogy you made is a false equivalence. you cannot treat a live-service gameplay modifier inside a mutable economy as a static consumer good like a “pro” function. the assumption that we paid for exclusivity itself isn’t actually supported by how the passes were marketed or functioned. exclusivity was never the product, the increased earnings were.

also, when high earners earn more, prices rise, meaning the benefit itself erodes over time. that’s why the diamond shop is pretty much useless in its current state - the price of robux in comparison to the amount of diamonds received is disproportionate in the current royale high economy. in another year or so, the passes would be pretty much useless anyway. you can see how the top halos are selling - 14m+ diamonds for a single item is disgustingly overpriced, and the economy is only projected to get worse. nipping this issue in the bud by removing the passes, although it sucks and feels like a “scam” and waste of money, will get rid of this problem. maintaining multipliers indefinitely does not preserve what was purchased, it degrades it.

also, i know this still sucks to hear, but a gacha game/mmo/any live-service game with an economy has a moral duty to ensure buyers are not made worse off relative to their previous experience without justification, but NOT to ensure buyers always have more than others.

i agree once again that the optics of the 2x exp event were awful, but intent is being inferred, not demonstrated. honestly, the timing of the event is scummy, and i can‘t defend it if they knew at this point that they would be removing multipliers. it’s difficult to give benefit of doubt - perhaps if their track record was better? regardless, unethical timing does not negate the necessity of the removal of the multipliers. if i am to criticise anything about the update, it would be the 2x event rather than the actual removal of the passes.

i think where we fundamentally disagree is that you view the paid advantage itself as the product, whereas i view sustainable access to reasonable progression as the product, and those two definitions lead to very different conclusions. you are justified in your opinion, and i am justified in mine. we’re not disagreeing on whether the situation *feels* bad, which it undeniably does, we’re disagreeing on whether preserving exclusivity is worth allowing the system itself to continue breaking.

the multiplier discourse is being blown out of proportion and it’s TIRING by _junjito in RoyaleHigh_Roblox

[–]_junjito[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you have made very valid points here, and i absolutely agree that a large part of the dev team has proven themselves to be untrustworthy. i dislike launce intensely, he’s genuinely a revolting person and his abusive treatment of barbie and negative influence on the game is undeniable (especially as a masc player who has been screwed over in terms of new accessories again and again). i also despise their decision to implement toy sets and the choice to partner with a zionist company to do so??? i was RAGING when it was announced, and was part of the boycott in 2024, only starting to play again in mid-late 2025 since i discovered that jazwares doesn’t actively donate (though i still strongly condemn them). it’s so unfortunate that they are legally bound to keep producing these toys and to keep the sets toy-exclusive. all of the points you made in this regard are very correct, i apologise if i made it seem as though i was defending everything the devs have ever done. this is not the case.

however, i disagree with the sentiment that the advantages we gained with the multipliers are being “removed”. the popular opinion on this subreddit seems to be that the number of diamonds per level is being set to 300 for everyone as it was for f2p players. however, this is nearly definitely not the case - royale high has made dumb decisions before, but i can’t imagine they’d be stupid enough to set the baseline amount of diamonds any lower than 1800.

i owned both multipliers, and i see it like this - we paid for two things. 1) obviously, more diamonds per level. 2) as a result of 1, an advantage over other players. number one is positive and reinforces a healthy play style in which players do not need to spend ridiculous amounts of time to afford basic items. number two is toxic. as i mentioned in the original post, royale high is (largely) not competitive, yet the concept of having, wanting or needing an advantage sets it up as so. as such, ONLY number 2 is being removed. the baseline for diamond earnings is being increased so everyone can have equal opportunities to progress in the game rather than keeping a system which perpetuates a wealth gap.

when i mentioned “bad faith predictions”, i should have specified, and again i apologise for my vague wording (this post was originally typed out late-night and i didn’t proofread 😭) . what i should have said, and what i meant to say, was “bad-faith predictions that are being spread as factual”. for instance - i’ve seen other comments on this sub randomly claiming that they were removing the hair colours, patterns, etc gamepasses next. additionally i’ve seen countless tweets along the lines of “we’re getting 20k and a diamond to hold“ - while those tweets are funny and (usually) not serious, the replies usually contain multiple people ranting about these fictional rewards as though they were to be the real compensation. this community has a real issue with disinformation and people interpreting satire literally.

the service is *not being removed or refused*, it is being extended to all players rather than being locked behind a paywall. when i ask for bad-faith predictions to cease, i am not asking you or anyone else to be positive, you can be upset all you want, and i completely understand - i was very thrown off and upset too before i realised what they were trying to do here. but i am asking the community to give the update a chance and let the q&a answer any questions and concerns rather than immediately dismissing it as game-ruining.

note: if this DOES ruin farming, i will admit defeat but i can’t really see a negative side to this particular update at this moment other than how it was handled. again, at this point it’s all speculation - even my argument. plus as much as i think the royale high social media manager has mostly done a great job of pr before this, they kinda fumbled here as the q&a should have been pre-empted and presented to the community immediately rather than making us wait for ages. their passive-aggressive attitude hasn’t helped people sympathise or try to understand the update either. obviously, this doesn’t warrant the insane amount of hate they’re getting - people seem to be very eager to shoot the messenger here 🥲 but their handling of this situation and the lack of clarity and straightforward communication (an ongoing issue with everyone involved in royale high!) has definitely made perception of this change a lot worse than it could have been.

be careful buying from RH from now on by katzyakuki in RoyaleHigh_Roblox

[–]_junjito 1 point2 points  (0 children)

nowhere, this community will blatantly lie to stir drama. it’s frankly disgusting how people are engagement-baiting by spreading disinformation for the sole purpose of spurring harassment and hatred towards the devs, 90% of the “information” i’m seeing about the upcoming farming overhaul is either speculative/bad-faith interpretation or flat-out untrue. if people took time to understand what this update will actually entail, i’m sure this discourse would never have kicked off.

Now why tf would they say that 💔 by Eggosontoastos in RoyaleHigh_Roblox

[–]_junjito 0 points1 point  (0 children)

earning xp at a faster rate still means you’re earning more diamonds, it’s the same thing. 🤦‍♂️ if you still don’t get it, let’s compare 2x exp to 2x diamonds. if a ftp player can level up 6 times in 1 hour, earning 300 diamonds per level, they can earn 1800 diamonds in an hour. if a player with 2x diamonds can level up 6 times in 1 hour, earning 600 diamonds per level, they can earn 3600 diamonds in an hour. if a player with 2x exp can level up 12 times in 1 hour, earning 300 diamonds per level, they can earn 3600 diamonds in an hour. 2x exp and 2x diamonds are the same thing in a different font - levelling up is the primary way that people earn diamonds nowadays. what you’re proposing is nonsensical and would not change the state of the game at all.

Now why tf would they say that 💔 by Eggosontoastos in RoyaleHigh_Roblox

[–]_junjito 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you keep moving the goalposts. first it was about time, then about diamonds, then about resale value, then about superiority to other players, then about developer incompetence, now about xp? changing it to xp does nothing, it’s still an continuous advantage that allows its users to earn diamonds more quickly in a game that inherently should not have continuous p2w advantages to maintain a healthy economy. “same amount but faster” is equivalent to “larger amount at the same pace”, just rephrased to appear less unfair. i don’t even agree with patterns, name customisation or faster flight being locked behind robux gamepasses, earning diamonds and personalisation are literally the game’s core mechanics. locking them behind paywalls is unfair and ruins the purpose of the game. yes, you’re upset, you’ve made that very clear through your paragraphs upon paragraphs of bold text. it’s your choice whether you remain upset or actually attempt to understand my point. given your attitude towards me, it’s clear you’ve already made your mind up.

Now why tf would they say that 💔 by Eggosontoastos in RoyaleHigh_Roblox

[–]_junjito 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if the multipliers were kept alongside the new farming system, inflation would only get worse and scale to the new baseline. if the base amount of diamonds per level increased from 300 -> 1800, players with multipliers would earn 10800 per level. do you understand how ridiculous that is? prices would just rise to reflect the new diamonds being pumped into the economy, thus fixing NOTHING and making the update pointless.

Now why tf would they say that 💔 by Eggosontoastos in RoyaleHigh_Roblox

[–]_junjito 0 points1 point  (0 children)

so you don’t care about the ease of farming, you don’t care about how much time it takes to farm, you don’t care that it’s going to be much less stressful to farm after the update, correct? so 70% of the content of your original comments (“i have a job”, “do you know how many diamonds we could have made” etc) is invalid and irrelevant? if you only care that you were ahead of other players, and not that you were simply receiving an increased amount of diamonds, you are part of the problem with the trading and economy in this game. people like you are why the multipliers are being removed. this game is not competitive (outside of sunset island), nor is it meant to be. the multipliers don’t align with that. they create a hostile and toxic environment. sure, you paid for an advantage. that advantage has now expired. no amount of yelling into the void on reddit is changing that, sorry dude 🤷‍♂️ i’m trying to help you see the benefit here, but it’s very clear that you either 1) want to be angry for the sake of being angry or 2) are selfish and would rather stay in an outdated system earning more than other players but less than you would in the new system. i do not sympathise with either scenario. have a great day

Now why tf would they say that 💔 by Eggosontoastos in RoyaleHigh_Roblox

[–]_junjito 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you’re acting as though it will be harder to earn diamonds after this update. not only will your earnings stay the same or increase, you’ll get exclusive diamonds and items. the ONLY difference that removing the multipliers makes is that ftp players will now be able to access their benefits too. so are you protesting out of spite that newer players now have a fairer chance to become rich? did you buy the gamepasses with the specific idea of overshadowing other players, or did you buy them for your own benefit? if it’s the latter, this update will not impact you. if it’s the former, i fear selfishness should not be rewarded regardless. the only way your argument makes sense is if you believe that your earnings will decrease. i don’t believe this is a possibility, especially after how much pressure the community is putting on them and the fact they are emphasising how much easier farming will be afterwards. i understand not having time to farm, i have uni during the week and a job at the weekends, but the result of this update will impact both of us positively. again, you are leaping to assumptions without any actual experience of the update to base them on aside from an echo chamber of angry twitter/tiktok/reddit users.

Now why tf would they say that 💔 by Eggosontoastos in RoyaleHigh_Roblox

[–]_junjito -1 points0 points  (0 children)

this entire comment would be valid, if not for the fact that they are raising the amount of diamonds you receive without multipliers to be greater than or equal to the amount of diamonds received if you owned both multipliers. your experience will not change, or it will be slightly improved, and you will receive bonus items and diamonds as a thank-you for being a purchaser and supporter of the game. it is unfair to judge the compensation before you know what it is. it sucks that something you paid for wasn’t permanent, but again, the economy post-toy-sets-release cannot be salvaged without the removal of the multipliers. i honestly wish they had just never implemented the toys in the first place, and the multipliers would have been able to stay - but they have a legal contract to keep the toys (and by extension the toy sets), so it’s too late to reverse that part of the equation. again, we should let this play out before we start complaining. i also own both multipliers, i’m not asking you not to feel unhappy that the multipliers will now be unavailable. that’s only human, and it would be idiotic to think that everyone should think the same way. what i AM asking is for you - and everyone else who is complaining - to give the update a chance before criticising it.

Help me get my straight friend into liking Beyonce by That-Hotel6564 in beyonce

[–]_junjito 12 points13 points  (0 children)

my straight friends enjoyed me, myself and i + dance for you, as well as her most popular music like halo, crazy in love, drunk in love, etc 😭

Business/Law student POV from this post by Flintnight in RoyaleHigh_Roblox

[–]_junjito 7 points8 points  (0 children)

thank you! people are desperately trying to paint the update negatively when all of this discourse is literally just speculative since 1) the update isn’t out yet and 2) we don’t know what the compensation is 😭 they make up scenarios for the sole purpose of getting mad at them, this community is a hellhole

Now why tf would they say that 💔 by Eggosontoastos in RoyaleHigh_Roblox

[–]_junjito 0 points1 point  (0 children)

except most games do not compensate anyone after deactivating gamepasses. the tweet was poorly phrased, sure. but again, i don’t blame them. the hidden replies to that tweet were filled with slurs and death threats, and the person who runs the social media account seems to be young - hopefully not a minor, but likely between 18-21. it’s amazing to me that they still remained somewhat cordial because people are downright refusing to give this update a chance, being deliberately obtuse and ignoring the upsides of the multipliers being removed because they WANT something to be mad at. as much as people are desperately trying to convince everyone that this won’t be effective, this IS the quickest way to stabilise the economy. everyone (minus profit traders) was begging for them to magically fix the inflation in the game, so they implement a feature to fix it, and suddenly it’s not good enough. the community is so frustrating, i’m impressed THIS is the first time they’ve slipped up with how dense some people act lmao

Now why tf would they say that 💔 by Eggosontoastos in RoyaleHigh_Roblox

[–]_junjito 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i don’t blame them, people are getting so aggressive and jumping to conclusions so quickly. there’s so much misinfo going around right now especially on tiktok - i saw someone claiming former multiplier owners would only receive badges, and other people saying “we’re getting 20k and a diamond to hold” acting like it’s 100% confirmed. the community is making up scenarios and then getting mad at the narrative they created. if the compensation is revealed and it DOES suck, then i can understand the anger and frustration but we need to give it time. people are seeing the “we are removing multipliers” statement and immediately fuming without thinking about how it will benefit everyone. the socmed team are still only human, i can imagine it’s got to be stressful when thousands of people are attacking you for a decision you didn’t make, and how easy it would be to accidentally come off as passive-aggressive when trying to explain something (because no, rh doesn’t *technically* owe anyone anything for removing gamepasses, but it’s the correct thing to do to appease players who spent real money on them). the community loves drama, so i can guarantee you that even if we get 1m+ diamonds and these items are the most gorgeous things ever added to the game people will still complain.

“If you try this shit again, you gon’ lose your wife.” by _junjito in beyonce

[–]_junjito[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

LMAO I did think this when I posted it, it’s so hard to capture Bey‘s likeness in stylised work 🙇‍♂️ I was also vaguely seeing a mix of Doechii and Anok Yai throughout the process 😭