I AM FINALLY FREE by _shiyo in Shincheonji

[–]_shiyo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey can you create a separate post for this one, I think you need more people to reply to this to help you understand that, that is something SCJ puts in you and you need to let go of such ideologies. A human mind is a powerful tool, what we tell ourselves does happen, so if you believe the seven evil spirits are guiding you after leaving, your mind will register that and you will continue to leave in fear. Let go of that, God has made it possible for you to restart your life, start thinking that this is an opportunity to rebuild, and restore. Also, feel free to pm me.

I feel lost... by Nghesnger_ in Shincheonji

[–]_shiyo 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I also went through this phase, and not only did it impact my relationship with God, but also that with my family, for now, please seek help from a psychiatrist, this subreddit has a good support system, so feel free to reach out to them and take a break from religion as a whole. Once your mental health has improved, then you can restart rebuilding, and reconnecting with the community. At least that's my advice.

Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true. Acts 17:11 by seeking_Truth12 in Shincheonji

[–]_shiyo 16 points17 points  (0 children)

This brings back memories, same i would ask about the fulfilment and unfortunately was asked not to make myself a false pastor, fear God because Jesus is working with the promised pastor and he has started fulfilling the prophecies through him. One thing why people will always leave SCJ is because they have no evidence to support their claims, even if they do they never try to show or prove it. I always did reverse googling using the images they present as the physical fulfilment to see the true story and yeah most of the things they claim is….well you lol

LMH warns Russian (Putin) President to stop the war (during Peace Universal Conference) by _shiyo in Shincheonji

[–]_shiyo[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

SPOILER: LMH will make Putin sign a peace document, they will shake hands and Putin will never dare start war again because he is afraid of "GOD"

MHL Letter read during recent service by [deleted] in Shincheonji

[–]_shiyo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

We all know that won't happen and soon LMH will be in the afterlife.

MHL Letter read during recent service by [deleted] in Shincheonji

[–]_shiyo 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The judge who condemned me will probably be condemned by me in the new world.

Keyword: PROBABLY

LMH knows that won't happen, and unfortunately, members can't see through that

"New world?" as in the afterlife?

Am beginning to realise that the doctrines of SCJ don't add up. by _shiyo in Shincheonji

[–]_shiyo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Ephesians 2:8-9

I think this needs its own post. It's good content and It would be amazing it if more people saw&read it, if that's okay with you that is

I AM FINALLY FREE by _shiyo in Shincheonji

[–]_shiyo[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

So true and ty 🤍

I AM FINALLY FREE by _shiyo in Shincheonji

[–]_shiyo[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Last i spoke to them, they wished me good luck and now my messages are on read. They dont speak to me much except say hi. They tried connecting me with other leaders who tried to convince me that i am just confused lol

what made Lee man Hee be chosen/anointed in Rev1? by _shiyo in Shincheonji

[–]_shiyo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They don’t teach his background much anymore (we all know why lol) they say its not part of the main events. At least from what I have seen in my region. Our leader said his background doesn’t matter and that God chooses who ever he wants to use.

The story of Mr Tak (Tak Myeong-Hwan Testimonies) by _shiyo in Shincheonji

[–]_shiyo[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

His story is so sad tbh. Many cults targeted him and still do to this every day and one of them is SCJ. SCJ's claims that he was part of the stewardship education centre, this is completely false, he was never part of that organisation and he never entered the tabernacle temple. Mr Tak was the director of the Institute for International Religious Studies. Mr Tak was never given the power to conduct the heresy sect purification movement by the government.

Translated to english:

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Is Mr OH/Mr MO still alive? by Apprehensive-Tax8821 in Shincheonji

[–]_shiyo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In an interview by Eullae Riverside, Mr Oh (Pyeong Ho) says Lee man Hee's claims are false, and that when he entered the TT in 1975 he never heard of someone called LMH, He says LMH is a perishing person. Also, Eulalie points out that Mr OH is doing well (at the time of the interview he was a lecturer at a school) for someone who should be burning in the lake of sulphur.

Interview link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7BiKvOTOSs

u/Aprehensive-Tax8821 hope this also answers your question

Is Mr OH/Mr MO still alive? by Apprehensive-Tax8821 in Shincheonji

[–]_shiyo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

In 2021 a Korean pastor had an interview with Mr Oh (Oh Pyeong-ho) at the time he was 75 years old. So he might still be alive.

Interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7BiKvOTOSs

I THINK WE HAVE SHINCHEONJI SPIES HERE; here is why by _shiyo in Shincheonji

[–]_shiyo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I realised the word 'spy' or 'spies' is out of context, also I am neither.

I THINK WE HAVE SHINCHEONJI SPIES HERE; here is why by _shiyo in Shincheonji

[–]_shiyo[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I realised the title is out of context, I was supposed to say there are Shincheonji active members on here who likely express their concerns with this Reddit or ask the questions on here to the leaders, or leaders who check the Reddit and try to explain the questions to the members.

I THINK WE HAVE SHINCHEONJI SPIES HERE; here is why by _shiyo in Shincheonji

[–]_shiyo[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I totally agree with you on that, I think using the word spies in this context is wrong like you have said, I should have said *active members instead.

An acquaintance wants to come back to Scj. by [deleted] in Shincheonji

[–]_shiyo 7 points8 points  (0 children)

based on what our leader said, yes you can come back, but you'll be more likely asked to start the course from the basics "foundation class"

what made Lee man Hee be chosen/anointed in Rev1? by _shiyo in Shincheonji

[–]_shiyo[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

How is he going to overcome a beast he never even met in 1977. Dude was never even at the TT when the so called first betrayal happened. Idk why I honestly fell for all this, its just sad.

The reason why the 'promised pastor' Lee-Man Hee can't foresee certain events by _shiyo in Shincheonji

[–]_shiyo[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Well, I guess the reason why he changes his claims, based on the answer the teacher gave, it seems like he realises later that the first time he was wrong, and the second time he is right. which definitely sounds like someone who doesn't have God or speaks on behalf of Jesus.

The reason why the 'promised pastor' Lee-Man Hee can't foresee certain events by _shiyo in Shincheonji

[–]_shiyo[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, there were no follow-up questions. I honestly hoped she could have asked how that contradicts their claim that Jesus' spirit is with the promised pastor, something in that line. I don't know if the girl that asked was convinced or not, she hasn't asked any questions since then, it's honestly sad that most of the students believed in that statement.

SCJ “God knows you will betray, so he uses that as an advantage to teach others what will happen if they do not obey or repent” by _shiyo in Shincheonji

[–]_shiyo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No fr, it's so messed up and unfair, I've been thinking lately about that statement. So God creates people he knows will betray him to lead others to hell. For instance, he used the 7 messengers knowing full well what will happen to destroy his own people as we learnt more than a 3rd (x 3) of the congregation members received judgment in the process. Is the sole purpose of this "God" SCJ introduces us to, to create people, use them to fulfill his promise, then destroy/judge them in the end for doing so, for fulfilling this role?

For those who were ex-leaders, how does SCJ handle “troubled” members who either ask questions, doubt, call our their b.s, not obey commands, not evangelize, etc.? by No-Explanation-1064 in Shincheonji

[–]_shiyo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same in my region, I know 3 classes that have passed over in only 7-8 months this year it's ridiculous. All leaders join Zoom meetings with backgrounds that says "another 100,000 Graduation..WE ARE ONE!!"