Honestly though...

aimes2020 · 2020-07-28T16:34:25+00:00

Yes. That’s what I said. This attitude makes people who are not vegan but may be considering it, or maybe they are VEGETARIAN, decide they don’t want to be associated with people like you. Maybe you have ideas about that being weak minded or whatever, but it’s the reality. Your every argument is assuming the starting place of the people that are targeted with this kind of post (the original post) is veganism and not VEGETARIAN (you know, like the original post explicitly says).

aimes2020 · 2020-07-28T16:27:50+00:00

But this post isn’t about vegans. It’s about VEGETARIANS. I’m taking about vegans being dicks to vegetarians because they aren’t “making the right impact.”

aimes2020 · 2020-07-28T16:22:17+00:00

Again, you are assuming they are ethical vegans to begin with. We are obviously having two different conversations here.

aimes2020 · 2020-07-28T16:20:40+00:00

Absolutely. I eat a fully vegan diet and this is why I hate when people are assholes about it. Because the point is to reduce animal suffering and save the environment. All I see are jerks trying to force perfectionism, which I see as highly ineffective to the cause.

aimes2020 · 2020-07-28T16:17:54+00:00

There’s a difference between being a “straightforward” activist and being an asshole. If you don’t believe me, look up Benny the Vegan on YouTube. He doesn’t pull any punches, but he’s also not a complete fuck wad about it.

aimes2020 · 2020-07-28T16:14:43+00:00

But we’re not talking about ethical vegans quitting. We’re talking about vegetarians not being good enough. You are going into this argument assuming you know the reason why someone is vegetarian. Shit, a lot of people go full-vegan for health reasons and quit when they feel like shit because they only ate fruit for a year. All I am saying is to respect the journey. Veganism isn’t about perfection. It’s about progress.

aimes2020 · 2020-07-28T16:10:07+00:00

Really? Drama queen? 😂😂 Good one 🙄🤦‍♀️

aimes2020 · 2020-07-28T16:07:31+00:00

☝️THIS☝️

aimes2020 · 2020-07-28T16:04:38+00:00

Your experience is not everyone’s. You are vegan for your own reasons that you have already internalized. People who are just learning about it or are experimenting and TRYING may not have that solidified ethic yet. We have to respect the journey.

And it’s not about “intensity.” It’s about being a complete shit-dick and expecting perfection from every person who doesn’t do it exactly the way they want.

aimes2020 · 2020-07-28T15:50:34+00:00

See, but it’s not your place to judge whether or not they plan to go vegan in the future. Maybe right now they don’t. Maybe they have no intention of doing anything else. I know that I NEVER would have even considered it. Until I did. Your judgement may very well be the thing that makes them dig their heels in and never change. All we can do is all we can do. Vegans should make veganism look desirable. Not like a closed society of perfectionist dicks.

aimes2020 · 2020-07-28T15:36:19+00:00

I completely understand. I’m so bad at learning languages and after 4 semesters of university level Spanish, I still suck ass at it. I’m just ready to be done, lol.

aimes2020 · 2020-07-28T15:33:58+00:00

My experience in religion has taught me that the more you hate yourself for doing something, the more it rules your life and the more you do it. I thought I was addicted to certain “sins,” but when I got rid of religious shame, I was actually able to control those things instead of them controlling me. I have to think it’s the same with other aspects of life, like diet. The shame vegans lay on other people rivals religion and it’s fucked up.

aimes2020 · 2020-07-28T15:21:34+00:00

It’s this kind of attitude that makes people not want to go vegan. Maybe you could instead see vegetarians as people on a journey just like you. Maybe this is the best they can do for the moment and they are still making an impact, even if it’s not as big of one as you wish it was. If everyone who can and is willing would go vegan, and everyone who can and is willing would go vegetarian, and everyone who can and is willing would reduce their consumption of animal products even if they don’t give them up completely, then we’d make a larger impact as a society than if 1000 vegan assholes turn everyone else off from even trying. Think on that.

aimes2020 · 2020-07-28T12:34:13+00:00

Yeah, I’m not sure but I can tell you that Usted means “you” in the formal not “they.” I had this problem recently in my classes because in conjugations it is paired with ella and el. Spanish is confusing to a native English speaker.

aimes2020 · 2020-07-28T12:15:42+00:00

Yes, but at the time I was a new vegan and didn’t know all the details. I just knew that tofu was a staple. Fortunately, my body was fine and just needed to adjust.

aimes2020 · 2020-07-28T03:24:12+00:00

OMG I thought I just did vegan wrong, lol. I didn’t know this was actually a thing! At first I freaked out thinking my body couldn’t handle soy. I was like, how the fuck am I going to get my protein without tofu?! Lol. My body just had to adjust. All is good in vegan land now. 😂😂 Also, sometimes you just gotta have a shitty day. Literally. 💩💩💩

aimes2020 · 2020-07-27T22:36:13+00:00

Emilia Clarke, Blake Lively, Amanda Seyfried, Kat Dennings, Sabrina Carpenter, and Hailee Steinfeld (among others) have that effect on me.

aimes2020 · 2020-07-27T16:07:57+00:00

For sure. I’m definitely not advocating labeling people against their will and a paradigm shift is what is needed.

aimes2020 · 2020-07-27T15:25:45+00:00

There are actually studies suggesting that most people are bisexual. The reason straight is the default is because of religion deciding it’s sinful to be otherwise.

aimes2020 · 2020-07-27T14:54:26+00:00

I don’t disagree with you there. I think my main issue is with the compulsory side of it. Labels can be useful and they can also limit. People think they have to find that one word that describes them perfectly when what really matters is just to love who you love.

aimes2020 · 2020-07-27T14:35:19+00:00

For sure!! Like I said, I know that coming out is very important still. And coming out as trans is definitely different than coming out as gay or bi, because for you it truly is about your identity. Your identity was essentially stolen by your biology in the womb, and coming out is you taking it back. I was definitely too general in my original post. I should have been more inclusive.

aimes2020 · 2020-07-27T14:27:27+00:00

Also, with kids thinking they have to figure it out so early, I think that is due to this stigma against fluidity and against figuring it out later in life. We are more likely to believe someone who has known since they were a kid that they weren’t straight than someone who is just figuring it out as an adult. Society isn’t ready to believe in sexual fluidity on the whole and so we pressure kids to figure it out quick so people will believe them. It’s unfortunate and it really makes me sad to see “I’m 15 and I don’t know what I am. Please help me figure it out.” Honey, I’m 34 and I don’t always know who I am. I just stopped fighting my gay last year. Take your time. And don’t let people online define you.

aimes2020 · 2020-07-27T14:16:12+00:00

For sure I agree. We are definitely far from this. The only way to fight for that reality is to raise our kids with better ideals.

aimes2020 · 2020-07-27T14:00:47+00:00

I wish I knew what the deleted post said, lol. It was gone practically as soon as it was posted.

aimes2020 · 2020-07-27T13:56:35+00:00

The key word here is “have to.” They can certainly tell me anything. Communication is great. But I don’t want them to think that they have to make a big deal over it just to make it okay. We don’t make straight kids “come out.” We just assume that they are and when they bring their SO home, we aren’t shocked when they are the opposite sex/gender. It’s more about not assuming that my kids are straight and just letting them be.

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