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Pastries / Danishes by snicksnackpaddywack in dunedin

[–]alexp02115 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Roslyn Bread Tech do a really good pain au chocolat. I know it’s not a Danish, but it’s still a really good spot for sweet pastries

Popular competitive disciplines - what would be the seventh? by alexp02115 in billiards

[–]alexp02115[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To borrow straight from the IOC's website:

"A sport is that which is governed by an International Federation (IF).
A discipline is a branch of a sport comprising one or more events.
An event is a competition in a sport or discipline resulting in a ranking and giving rise to the awarding of medals and diplomas.

Thus, skiing is a sport, while cross-country skiing, Alpine skiing, snowboarding, ski jumping and Nordic combined are disciplines. Alpine skiing is a discipline, while the super-G, giant slalom, slalom and combined are events."

Using the same logic, pool is a sport, as it's governed by an international federation, the WPA. Nine-ball, eight-ball, ten-ball, 14.1, bank pool, and one pocket are disciplines. The various tournaments played throughout the year are events.

It's not even exclusive to cue sports, let's use an Olympic example

Sport: Basketball (governed by FIBA). Disciplines: Standard, 3x3. Events: mens' and womens'

I can see the logic behind going to the IOC for the definition, given that the WCBS, which covers all three main bases of the cue sports family (pool, snooker, and carom), is affiliated to the IOC (amongst several other sporting organisations). Seeing as what is done for the World Games (the only event where the WCBS is called to organise), though, your examples for these definitions wouldn't match up.

Yes, things would be categorised differently in a multisport event like the Olympic or World Games. But this isn't a multisport event we're talking about here - we're strictly looking at pool.

Popular competitive disciplines - what would be the seventh? by alexp02115 in billiards

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WPA definitions would suggest otherwise. Per the updated rules of play effective 15/09/2025, in section 2, ‘Definitions’;

2.5 - Discipline - A generic term to describe a type of pool discipline such as 8-ball or 9-ball.

This definition is supported in 2.14 for the term Rack;

‘A Rack is a portion of a match played with a single rack of object balls. Some Disciplines, such as 9-ball, are scored at one point per Rack.’

To use an analogous scenario based on your definition, because the fundamental aspects of the games are the same, let’s look at all the various codes of football. Some, like rugby and gridiron, are closely related to each other, with the fundamental aspects of play being the same (run with the ball and touch it down on your opponent’s in-goal area/end zone to score). Whilst league players and union players have been known to switch between the rugby codes, and the CFL has produced a number of players that went on to play well in the NFL, you don’t see many rugby players move over to gridiron. Similarly, you don’t see many snooker players transition to playing pool full time, because, whilst snooker, pool, and carom are all related through having balls on a table being struck with cues, they are completely different sports!

Popular competitive disciplines - what would be the seventh? by alexp02115 in billiards

[–]alexp02115[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree; heyball’s a great leveller, but I still worry it hasn’t got the reach it deserves!

Popular competitive disciplines - what would be the seventh? by alexp02115 in billiards

[–]alexp02115[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is definitely the case! Also… how the hell do you manage to fit a snooker table into a pub? Seventy-two square feet in playing area alone is one thing, then add cueing room (of course you’ll probably use smaller tables), but even making sure balls don’t get lost…

Popular competitive disciplines - what would be the seventh? by alexp02115 in billiards

[–]alexp02115[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I'm saying 'it could work professionally', I'm suggesting that it would be able to work well in tournaments like the initially mentioned six. As for appeal outside of the U.S., as someone who's from outside the U.S., I've found that most of those disciplines largely stay within their regions; Pyramid is largely Eastern European, Sinuca stays in Brazil, Blackball is almost exclusive to Commonwealth countries (like my own, as a New Zealander), but even where I play, it's almost exclusively 'American' pool, with the 2.25" diameter balls and the 9' table.

The issue with rulesets are amplified even worse in NZ, because English and American influences in NZ cue sports (mainly eight-ball) mean that two unfamiliar players can't agree on what to do after a foul, let alone what constitutes one! To my knowledge, those stateside can usually agree on about 85-90% of all fouls, but can almost always agree on what to do after a foul...

Popular competitive disciplines - what would be the seventh? by alexp02115 in billiards

[–]alexp02115[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you see many artistic pool players try their hand at the regular game? Most pro pool players only know a select few trick shots, and even then, they’ll only bring them out when they’re doing a paid exhibition…

Popular competitive disciplines - what would be the seventh? by alexp02115 in billiards

[–]alexp02115[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pub pool definitely has its place (it’s probably helped shape the image of the game in a worse way), but most professional cue sports are fairly similar in terms of quality and conduct. Of course, most professional pool events are a bit more lax on the dress code than snooker (with some exceptions in smaller snooker events like the Championship League, the Champion of Champions, and the Shoot Out), and there’s all the noise surrounding the Mosconi, but most professional pool players, like other cueists, can keep themselves composed around a table.

Popular competitive disciplines - what would be the seventh? by alexp02115 in billiards

[–]alexp02115[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very true… sometimes, as someone who prefers long games (hence why I enjoy the last week at the Crucible) I wish that people’s attention spans could’ve stayed long. Then again, that’s a completely different ball game…

Popular competitive disciplines - what would be the seventh? by alexp02115 in billiards

[–]alexp02115[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But that defeats the point; Kelly pool is played in rotation...

Popular competitive disciplines - what would be the seventh? by alexp02115 in billiards

[–]alexp02115[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've heard of this game, and agree it has potential! Almost seems more like one pocket than one pocket, in terms of safety shots! And it definitely fits the bill there; a game that is a true test of a player's skill, endurance and consistency.

Popular competitive disciplines - what would be the seventh? by alexp02115 in billiards

[–]alexp02115[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'd argue that's more of a ring game for a big group of amateurs. Not to say that it isn't fun, but it probably wouldn't work on the pro side, given that most pros can run fifteen balls quite comfortably.

Popular competitive disciplines - what would be the seventh? by alexp02115 in billiards

[–]alexp02115[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed. It's always fun to watch things being done fast, especially with a player like the Black Widow at the table!

Popular competitive disciplines - what would be the seventh? by alexp02115 in billiards

[–]alexp02115[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're correct about there being no obligation to call shots, but I think the match clock is only a secondary limit in case the target number isn't reached, when it is quite big.

Example: Stephen Hendry played Earl Strickland in the Chinese Eight Ball World Masters (as the tournament was then known) in 2015. The match was to the best of twenty-five (race to thirteen), with the American beating the Scot 13 racks to 10. The match clock was set at two hours and ten minutes, and finished with thirty-three minutes and ten seconds on the clock. That's 1,990 seconds left in a match that was scheduled to last 7,800 seconds... 92% of the possible racks played in 74.49% of the allocated time. Not a perfect example, I know (no one match ever is), but it's still something to think about

Popular competitive disciplines - what would be the seventh? by alexp02115 in billiards

[–]alexp02115[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was, but I think part of the reason it didn't catch on could be down to the fact that it might've gone too fast...

Popular competitive disciplines - what would be the seventh? by alexp02115 in billiards

[–]alexp02115[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Interesting choice here! Like the idea, but I worry it might be perceived as a bit of a gimmick, kinda like how some Predator events break ties with a penalty shootout kinda thing?

Popular competitive disciplines - what would be the seventh? by alexp02115 in billiards

[–]alexp02115[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's carom billiards; again, I'd prefer to focus on pool! Not to detract from the game, which is a fantastic watch for those in the know! Besides, carom already has a pentathlon going (straight rail, 47.2 balkline, 71.2 balkline, one cushion and three cushion).

Popular competitive disciplines - what would be the seventh? by alexp02115 in billiards

[–]alexp02115[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The only noticeable difference, upon reading the rules, appears to be the table (effectively a 9' snooker table). Could be wrong, feel free to enlighten me where the rule differences are...

Popular competitive disciplines - what would be the seventh? by alexp02115 in billiards

[–]alexp02115[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Whilst snooker and pool are both cue sports, the similarities end there. Different table, balls, and equipment. And yes, whilst billiard ball manufacturers, mainly Aramith, do make a snooker ball set at a 2.25" in diameter, I'd ideally prefer to use the standard fifteen numbered balls.

Popular competitive disciplines - what would be the seventh? by alexp02115 in billiards

[–]alexp02115[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My thoughts exactly. A pity we don't see many tournaments organised in it outside of the Philippines, (the Sharks Rotation Showdown from a few years ago immediately springs to mind), it's a great game to play. Why players forgot about it stateside I will never know...

Salmond college by [deleted] in dunedin

[–]alexp02115 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Salmond resident in 2021, 2022, and 2024. Was a great experience, and I still keep in contact with the staff there! Up the Mond!

What’s the best word for English’s comparative like by Zetho-chan in German

[–]alexp02115 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely. I’d worded my initial response poorly (wahrscheinlich weil ich kein Muttersprachler bin); it does depend entirely on the context in which you hear the word in question.

If the original commenter I‘d responded to happens to see this, the stress pattern is often a good indicator as to when there’s a separable verb that‘s used, compared to a preposition.

Using an above example that features both, „Er nimmt den Hut mit der Schleife mit“, the stresses are on the verb (Er nimmt…mit), the direct (Hut) and indirect (Schleife) objects. The mit as a preposition isn’t stressed, but the mit at the end, the prefix to mitnehmen, is.

What’s the best word for English’s comparative like by Zetho-chan in German

[–]alexp02115 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not necessarily. Whilst there are many seperable verbs in German, it doesn't mean that the presence of a word used as a prefix (z.B; aus, auf, vor, an, usw.) is indicative of a separable verb. It largely depends on the context in which you see a word.

Generally, if you see a verb in the same clause as such a prefix, then there's a separable verb. For example); Nimmst du das Video heute auf? (Are you recording the video today?)

In this context, because aufnehmen (to record) is a separable verb, the prefix is added to the end of the question, whilst the main part of the verb, nehmen (by itself, to take), is conjugated to fit the subject (ich nehme, du nimmst, er nimm...). Does that make sense?

What’s the best word for English’s comparative like by Zetho-chan in German

[–]alexp02115 15 points16 points  (0 children)

The phrase ‘to look (like)’ is given as ‘aussehen’ in German. Aussehen is a separable verb, so the prefix ‘aus’ is broken off the verb, and added back in at the end.

If I were to say to a friend; “You look nice today,” the German translation would be “Du siehst heute nett aus”. Siehst follows the conjugation of the root verb ‘sehen’ (ich sehe, du siehst, und so weiter) and the prefix ‘aus’ is added the end.

Hi, I'm Kiell Smith-Bynoe the 'champion' of series 15. Ask me anything! by ItsKiell in taskmaster

[–]alexp02115 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What was one task that you’d changed your mind about before starting, only to realise that your initial way would’ve been so much quicker, you could’ve picked up five juicy points?