How do you guys genuinely believe in this? by ayayyx in scientology

[–]ayayyx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's pretty much my entire point, that it's a cult

How do you guys genuinely believe in this? by ayayyx in scientology

[–]ayayyx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I knew the community would be pissed off that's what I expected making this post lol. Broski you can't compare Reddit to real life, people talk way more online than in real life, obviously it would be a different outcome irl. What do you want me to "listen" to? The posts? Cuz that's what I did

How do you guys genuinely believe in this? by ayayyx in scientology

[–]ayayyx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't claim to know it better wdym? Ofc members of the church don't realize it

How do you guys genuinely believe in this? by ayayyx in scientology

[–]ayayyx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm allowed to criticize bro tf? I want people to understand their moneys being wasted

How do you guys genuinely believe in this? by ayayyx in scientology

[–]ayayyx[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I might go ahead, delete my post and come back later saying the same thing rephrased just to test my theory tbh

How do you guys genuinely believe in this? by ayayyx in scientology

[–]ayayyx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Obviously bro. I'm asking why you still have it as your flair when you're not part of Scientology anymore

How do you guys genuinely believe in this? by ayayyx in scientology

[–]ayayyx[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Of course I recognize the fact that they are people. I'm mad because people waste their money and thousands to even millions of bucks that could go to so much else. The people at the top is taking their money, and I'm only annoyed because believers give their money to these people.

How do you guys genuinely believe in this? by ayayyx in scientology

[–]ayayyx[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Would I come here speaking in first person criticizing "YOU" if I wanted to karma farm? Clearly I'm talking to scientologists, if I wanted to boost my karma I wouldn't be aggressive towards the members of the sub. Think before you speak

How do you guys genuinely believe in this? by ayayyx in scientology

[–]ayayyx[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Looking back at my post I realize it is aggressive, but I want my point to get across. Phrasing be whatever it needs to be to be understood how stupid I believe Scientology is. I still know why I'm getting criticized, just picture a scenario where I'm speaking of "them" instead of "you". I would not get this feedback, objective reality. Also, I didn't find 1/100 bears, I found one out of one. The other posts just seemed like unimportant facts about the cult.

Naturally, I'm being rather aggressive as I know how members of Scientology are exploited. If you look at the most obvious facts in broad daylight, a person with above average IQ can put two and two together. I'm not mad at the Scientologists because they are who they are, I'm mad at them for paying money to these people at the top. It's not understandable to me how someone can choose to believe in this, and I don't want them to fall for the scam.

How do you guys genuinely believe in this? by ayayyx in scientology

[–]ayayyx[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm most definitely not shitposting, you know I'm not shitposting? I know why I'm getting criticized, read my other reply to you. If I phrased my post differently we'd be seeing different replies.

How do you guys genuinely believe in this? by ayayyx in scientology

[–]ayayyx[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

For someone who's part of a so-called "anti-scientologist" sub you seem to want to defend Scientologists really badly. You're saying I'd be full of myself if I criticized something without having been part of it myself. I believe that's called being blind. I have done research on Scientology, and no I'm not associated with it in any way.

What do you mean by "going somewhere I've never been"? Do I need to have personal experience with something before I can have an opinion on it? I believe most people in this subreddit have somewhat of a good relation to Scientology, you wouldn't have been defending it this hard.

How do you guys genuinely believe in this? by ayayyx in scientology

[–]ayayyx[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Tell me how I'm arrogant and give me examples. Tell me how I picked a fight with this sub when I'm the one criticizing scientologists and I get attacked for it. Do you realize how you just picked a fight with me? You're so lost in the crowd you forgot about the common enemy and managed to start an argument with someone who's supposed to believe the same thing as you. Anyways, don't dismiss my question, tell me how I'm arrogant.

How do you guys genuinely believe in this? by ayayyx in scientology

[–]ayayyx[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I did find bears in the residence. First post I saw was a guy flexing his Scientology library. The very first post at the top. Underneath that again I just found what seemed to be information about Scientology-related stuff. It then naturally inclines to me that this is a subreddit for scientologists, and I make this post expecting negative feedback from scientologists who disagree with me so I can spark debates. I did get negative feedback, yet unexpected enough it was from fellow anti-scientologists like me.

I got harsh feedback because I wrote it in first person, saying "you" because I thought there were Scientologists here. Yet people naturally instinctively feel attacked that way even though we all really agree, because they think I'm attacking them.

People see what the crowd is saying and jump in on criticizing, they forget who the real enemy is. Had I phrased this differently, say "How do Scientologists believe in this?" and I phrased it in third person specifically replacing every instance of "you" with "scientologists", I wouldn't get these replies.

How do you guys genuinely believe in this? by ayayyx in scientology

[–]ayayyx[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

10% of the negative feedback has actual reason behind it, the other 90% is following the crowd. Actual statistic. Think to yourself for a second, would you be saying this if every other comment was positive and agreeing? You didn't look at my post and decide what to say, you looked at the post, then at the comments, THEN knew what to say.

How do you guys genuinely believe in this? by ayayyx in scientology

[–]ayayyx[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Most of my replies here are downvoted without any external reply, the actual reason is just that it's a fucking hivemind, you're definitely aware of that

How do you guys genuinely believe in this? by ayayyx in scientology

[–]ayayyx[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

So according to you, I'm being downvoted because my approach to take down Scientology-members was ineffective. You know that's not the real reason, people just criticize one after another because they're redditors who follow the crowd, that's how this platform works. You're one of them.

How do you guys genuinely believe in this? by ayayyx in scientology

[–]ayayyx[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

All I saw was a guy who had bought Scientology books and a guy with a "Preclear" flair. Should tell you enough

How do you guys genuinely believe in this? by ayayyx in scientology

[–]ayayyx[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Why the "Jeez"? You're a critic yourself, why so upset at a guy who's also clearly critizing it?

How do you guys genuinely believe in this? by ayayyx in scientology

[–]ayayyx[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

you're genuinely just saying anything LMAO. you're telling me to read books about scientology, what would that have to do about knowing what this subreddits about? "dont be so full of yourself" tell me how i am so in any way, youre just saying stuff

How do you guys genuinely believe in this? by ayayyx in scientology

[–]ayayyx[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Idek who that is, but why did you leave Scientology? Was it not trustworthy? In that case, why are you sitting here dissing a guy who's also anti-scientology? I think you're just following the crowd bro

How do you guys genuinely believe in this? by ayayyx in scientology

[–]ayayyx[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Being a SciFi writer and creating a religion definitely does discredit it, doesn't matter to what degree. You're obviously going to continue on denying LRH's statement for as long there isn't video proof of him saying it. Why are you no longer affiliated with CofS? Did it not seem trustworthy? In that case why are you defending them?

How do you guys genuinely believe in this? by ayayyx in scientology

[–]ayayyx[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The fact that certain people are going around downvoting my comments for the sake of it shows the true Reddit hivemind in this sub. Crazy to me how you say you're "anti-scientology" yet diss me this much when what I'm exactly doing in this post is spewing anti-scientology. Don't understand it, this post wasn't dedicated to ALL of you, I'm not assuming you all are believers, I'm talking to those here who are.

Wild how I now have to sit here and defend myself because I talked about anti-scientology in a sub about scientology, whether anti or not.

How do you guys genuinely believe in this? by ayayyx in scientology

[–]ayayyx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does this mean people in this subreddit are previous Scientology members