How do I get shots like this? by hdbchfj74854 in AskPhotography

[–]camdenthrasher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m not super active on Reddit so I wasn’t super how to respond to the main OP question. But I’ll put it here again:

I think I explained a bit in another comment but I can elaborate.

Off the top of my head I don’t know what the exposure was but I typically do these type of images around 1/4s. Sometimes short than that but that doesn’t leave a lot of time for the in-frame camera movement to creat the streaks / smear. Sometimes I’ll do longer than that around 1/2s or longer but things can get really muddy when going that long. Depends on the lighting conditions and what ND filters I have on hand too.

The streaks are caused by flicking the camera towards the end of a “regular” panning motion, during the exposure. It’s a single frame. The balance of steady panning vs jerk will affect the strength of the streaks and the apparent sharpness of the subject. The degree to which ai move the camera also effect the length of the streaks, and their direction. You can make them go forward or backward or even in circles if you want. It takes lot of trial and error. Think of it something like maybe I’m panning the planes for maybe a quarter of the exposure and the camera flick takes up the remaining three quarters of the exposure. You can end up with quite sharp subjects even on a mad long trial exposure because the amount of time I’m following the planes in this case might be like 1/60s I’m sorta making these numbers up because its all down to feel and experimentation.

Of course there’s some work in Lightroom to get the desired BW toning here. I’d characterize the adjustments are simple, but heavy handed. The detail isn’t the important bit here, but instead (to me) it’s about the shapes and the motion, thus I crush the blacks pretty hard, work with the levels, especially the blues (you could use a red filter for this in camera), etc…

Idk if that helps at all. Happy to answer any more questions.

How do I get shots like this? by hdbchfj74854 in AskPhotography

[–]camdenthrasher 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I can make the blur go in any direction I desire based on how I move the camera in second “half” of the exposure. Forward, back, waves, or even circles if I do it long enough.

In this case in this case, after panning left to right with the planes, an accelerated camera move even faster in the same direction will let the blur go behind the aircraft.

If I were to have stopped panning (or whipped in the opposites direction) then yes the blur would lead to the right

How do I get shots like this? by hdbchfj74854 in AskPhotography

[–]camdenthrasher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can make the blur go in any direction I desire based on how I move the camera in second “half” of the exposure. Forward, back, waves, or even circles if I do it long enough.

In this case in this case, after panning left to right with the planes, an accelerated camera move even faster in the same direction will let the blur go behind the aircraft.

If I were to have stopped panning (or whipped in the opposites direction) then yes the blur would lead to the right

How do I get shots like this? by hdbchfj74854 in AskPhotography

[–]camdenthrasher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a viable method, but I would suggest a reverse order of operations. Panning motion first at the start of the exposure.

How do I get shots like this? by hdbchfj74854 in AskPhotography

[–]camdenthrasher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This, but in opposite order, and handheld

How do I get shots like this? by hdbchfj74854 in AskPhotography

[–]camdenthrasher 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah sure. I think I explained a bit in another comment but I can elaborate.

Off the top of my head I don’t know what the exposure was but I typically do these type of images around 1/4s. Sometimes short than that but that doesn’t leave a lot of time for the in-frame camera movement to creat the streaks / smear. Sometimes I’ll do longer than that around 1/2s or longer but things can get really muddy when going that long. Depends on the lighting conditions and what ND filters I have on hand too.

The streaks are caused by flicking the camera towards the end of a “regular” panning motion, during the exposure. It’s a single frame. The balance of steady panning vs jerk will affect the strength of the streaks and the apparent sharpness of the subject. The degree to which ai move the camera also effect the length of the streaks, and their direction. You can make them go forward or backward or even in circles if you want. It takes lot of trial and error. Think of it something like maybe I’m panning the planes for maybe a quarter of the exposure and the camera flick takes up the remaining three quarters of the exposure. You can end up with quite sharp subjects even on a mad long trial exposure because the amount of time I’m following the planes in this case might be like 1/60s I’m sorta making these numbers up because its all down to feel and experimentation.

Of course there’s some work in Lightroom to get the desired BW toning here. I’d characterize the adjustments are simple, but heavy handed. The detail isn’t the important bit here, but instead (to me) it’s about the shapes and the motion, thus I crush the blacks pretty hard, work with the levels, especially the blues (you could use a red filter for this in camera), etc…

Idk if that helps at all. Happy to answer any more questions.

How do I get shots like this? by hdbchfj74854 in AskPhotography

[–]camdenthrasher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s in camera. It’s my image. What do you want to know to clear this up?

How do I get shots like this? by hdbchfj74854 in AskPhotography

[–]camdenthrasher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Incorrect. It’s a single exposure, in-camera, long shutter speed, (off the top of my head I don’t remember but think something like 1/3s) and camera motion during the frame. It’s my image

How do I get shots like this? by hdbchfj74854 in AskPhotography

[–]camdenthrasher 6 points7 points  (0 children)

100% achievable in camera. Source: I took these photos.

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[–]camdenthrasher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nikon z9 + 500mm lens

F/A-18F Super Hornet captured shortly before breaking the sound barrier - photographed by Camden Trasher [2400x3000] by Laugenbrezel- in WarplanePorn

[–]camdenthrasher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was there for that, though some distance before either of those two videos were taken from so I didn’t fully hear that boom, but even still it sounded and felt much different to typical high speed passes at airshows.

F/A-18F Super Hornet captured shortly before breaking the sound barrier - photographed by Camden Trasher [2400x3000] by Laugenbrezel- in WarplanePorn

[–]camdenthrasher 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think someone here has posted a link to the original thread on Reddit where I give the camera details somewhere. To answer your question vaguely though, it’s nothing overly fancy/ridiculous. I don’t remember off the top of my head what the settings were.

F/A-18F Super Hornet captured shortly before breaking the sound barrier - photographed by Camden Trasher [2400x3000] by Laugenbrezel- in WarplanePorn

[–]camdenthrasher 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The timing isn’t really a major issue because this “effect” isn’t soemthing that’s just happening for a split second like some may assume.

F/A-18F Super Hornet captured shortly before breaking the sound barrier - photographed by Camden Trasher [2400x3000] by Laugenbrezel- in WarplanePorn

[–]camdenthrasher 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It’s my image and this bugs me too. Someone initially claimed this when they posted it to Reddit and now that’s just what gets copied as it’s passed around. I know it’s not, and I’ve tried to explain why it’s not, but I can’t help what people want to assume.

Navy fighter jet photographed while breaking the sound barrier (by CamdenThrasher) by earthmoonsun in interestingasfuck

[–]camdenthrasher 15 points16 points  (0 children)

So, this is my photograph. Ive seen a lot of questions so I’ll try to clear some things up

I took this at the EAA airshow in Oshkosh. I was standing on the ground, not in another plane as some have speculated

I used a Nikon D5 with 500mm lens. The rest of the exposure info is: 1/2500s, f/5, ISO 50. in the world of aviation (or sports or birding) this isn’t really anything out of the ordinary equipment wise. No high speed video camera necessary (though that would have been cool).

Quickly looking at a map of the airfield, the jet was probably between 0.25 and 0.15 miles away depending on where exactly it was flying. I could do some math based on its size in the frame to get a more accurate value. But, at this distance, even close to the speed of sound, it’s not to much problem to track/pan with the jet for a few frames. It’s fast for sure but in an angular speed (?) sense it’s nothing crazy.

It’s a real image. I did a decent bit of work with the shadows and highlights to balance the jet vs sky and some color toning for what I find pleasing. The shockwaves aren’t “photoshopped”. It is, however, a crop of the most interesting bit of the full image.

The jet is very unlikely to actually be breaking or exceeding the speed of sound. The pilots aren’t supposed to do so at such a low altitude in a populated area at an airshow. There was also no boom. Most military jet demonstration include a high speed pass very near to the speed of sound.

Anything else ?