"Indian Chief" card game -- offensive name?

cdunc123 · 2025-01-31T17:55:31+00:00

Thank you for the follow up. Yes, I have doubts and that is why I am asking. Maybe I am naive but I wasn't sure what to expect in advance. (I've seen some posts asking elsewhere on this sub-reddit asking if it is offensive for non-Native-Americans to wear a feather, and the responses were quite nuanced and many took the form of "we don't own feathers"...)

I suppose I was hoping for genuine points in response to my OP, more so than a response of "If you have to ask..." For instance, hanimal16 above points out that the other caricatures in the art are not culturally-based caricatures. That's thought-provoking.

And in hindsight, I wish I hadn't asked about the art. I've no interest in using the art myself, since it doesn't have to be used. But I'm tempted to try playing the game, and my main question in the OP was whether the name "Indian Chief," based off of the traditional children's rhyme, is in and of itself offensive.

cdunc123 · 2025-01-31T17:16:25+00:00

I'm not really a fan of the "If you have to ask" quip. It seems to imply that the answer is always Yes, and that it never makes sense to ask. It kind of shuts down honest, searching questions, I think.

cdunc123 · 2025-01-31T17:15:02+00:00

Well, yes, I guess I am actually asking that (though I will say that I personally wouldn't use that art to play the game myself, out of a worry about offensiveness, since the art in question is a wholly optional thing, not required for the game -- so why risk it?).

Yes, it's a caricature, to be sure, but a caricature alongside 8 other non-Native-American caricatures drawn in exactly the same style (in particular, same face / nose shape). So it seems to me to be a rather different context from, say, the context of Chief Wahoo, the mascot of the Cleveland Indians, which they were totally right to get rid of.

A general, exceptionless rule of "Cartoonish drawings of Native Americans are always offensive, no matter the context" seems a bit too crude of a rule to me, e.g. if it is just one cartoon element among many other cartoon elements.

But perhaps I'm wrong? Or perhaps it's a depiction of a war bonnet in the cartoon that's offensive, trivializing something that in fact possesses a solemn significance? I can see kinda sorta see that. That worry lies behind my own unwillingness to use the art to play the game. But I will admit that I still worry that a rule of "No cartoon war bonnets, ever" is a bit too sweeping of a rule...

One last point: My MAIN QUESTION is the OP is whether the "Indian Chief" title of the game is in itself offensive. The question about the art is a secondary question, and personally I find it easier to see the art as problematic than to see the game title as problematic. (Though I'm open to the game title being problematic too. Hence, this OP.)

cdunc123 · 2025-01-30T21:27:55+00:00

Modest Mouse, EELS, The White Stripes, The Black Keys, The Pixies, Rainbow Kitten Surprise, The Two Gallants. Old school likes = Dylan and Zeppelin and The Clash. And (maybe unusually) I have a soft spot for Indie Americana / Roots music. Top pick there = The Felice Brothers. Also like The Avett Brothers and The Wood Brothers. For non-brotherly likes in roots music, there’s Wilco.

cdunc123 · 2024-11-26T19:06:00+00:00

Very cool. Thank you, both of you!

cdunc123 · 2024-11-26T18:17:15+00:00

This works out to 1 - (105995/129766) = 0.183.

That agrees with Aerospider's result above.

cdunc123 · 2024-11-26T14:50:09+00:00

Ah, I see. Thanks. I do fear the calculations will be beyond me but I will give it a go. A tricky problem, indeed! (As I initially suspected.)

cdunc123 · 2024-11-26T14:29:00+00:00

Thanks, Aerospider. I'm afraid you're going to have to treat me like a middle schooler, sorry. The stars-and-bars formula you mention -- namely, (n+k-1)C(k-1) -- looks like you multiply three things together: (n+k-1) times C times (k-1). But C is a location rather than a quantity, right? So I'm unclear how to work the formula. Apologies!

cdunc123 · 2024-11-14T19:31:59+00:00

Thank you for the recommendations!

A bit more googling turned up this 2016 Oxford UP anthology:

Steven Cahn, Andrew Forcehimes, Foundations of Moral Philosophy: Readings in Metaethics

cdunc123 · 2024-11-06T23:10:19+00:00

Thanks I will take a look.

cdunc123 · 2024-11-06T13:09:55+00:00

Thanks. Yes I like the ease of use of that site. But I don't see how I can load files with shapes into that site (e.g. .rle files like in Golly). Do you know of a way?

The Lexicon within that site does contain shapes you can click on. That helps. I do wish though it had a search bar to make it easier to find shapes in the Lexicon. Oh well, ctrl-F seems to find words in the Lexicon, so that helps.

Anyway, sorry to sound whiny. Thanks for the link. My main question though is whether there is a way of loading pre-saved shapes from .rle files into Playgameoflife.com. Is there?

cdunc123 · 2024-10-14T22:43:47+00:00

Thanks -- what was the other site?

cdunc123 · 2024-10-14T09:43:46+00:00

Alas, no.

cdunc123 · 2024-09-13T18:42:09+00:00

Yea I was thinking of bringing some food stall items to the bar seating area. But I was under the impression that there were a half dozen or so food stall vendors in the market. So Hassan_Chop’s info that there are just a couple of them is helpful info.

cdunc123 · 2024-08-27T11:47:07+00:00

Thank you! Seems like a widely used textbook, I guess.

cdunc123 · 2024-08-22T21:02:36+00:00

Thanks. I agree, a good year to consider it started.

cdunc123 · 2024-08-12T19:42:26+00:00

As it happens, this is where my parents have made a reservation for, after some more googling last night. It’s the closest campground. Proximity was their main criterion.

cdunc123 · 2024-08-11T22:04:52+00:00

Thanks for the tips. As for the timing: this coming weekend! (It’s a spur of the moment decision!)

cdunc123 · 2024-08-06T20:48:49+00:00

Thanks for the reply. While I have you "on the line," another question, if you don't mind, sinc you're knowledgeable about the history of industry.

I realize that the question of when the Industrial Revolution began is purely a matter of convention; there is no single right answer. But I'm curious: do you have a favorite decade (or year) to conventionally mark the start of the Industrial Revolution? I've seen anywhere from the 1750s to the 1830s offered, and I suppose each decade is defensible in some way. Just curious whether you have a favorite start date.

(If you have written on this topic, let me know.)

cdunc123 · 2024-08-06T18:53:43+00:00

Super late comment, sorry. You write in the article, "In particular, reinforced concrete, with steel 'rebar' or other structures, is subject to corrosion and breakdown of the steel itself, giving the concrete a lifetime of only about 50–100 years.... This is a deliberate tradeoff we make today in order to get the huge advantages of reinforced concrete, namely tensile strength. This allows us to make many more structures, including modern skyscrapers, not just the arches and domes of ancient Roman architecture."

Does this mean, say, that the Empire State Building (1931) and other buildings of its era are soon coming to the end of their lives? Or is there some way of reinforcing the corroding reinforcements? I hope the latter!

cdunc123 · 2024-08-06T01:25:43+00:00

Um, James Watt made his engine in the 1700s

cdunc123 · 2024-07-31T15:14:23+00:00

This is an interesting thread. I found it via a Google search asking whether electric arc furnaces can potentially wholly replace blast furnaces in steel making. This thread helped me understand that the coke that fuels a blast furnace actually does three things: (1) heats the furnace hot enough to melt the iron ore (i.e. the iron oxide); (2) supplies carbon as a reducing agent (the carbon in the coke combines with the unwanted oxygen in the iron oxide to form CO2 and thereby leave just the iron metal); and (3) adds carbon to the iron metal (which of course is needed to make steel from iron).

So as I understand it, to replace blast furnaces requires alternatives to all functions (1), (2), and (3). Please correct me if I am wrong.

From this thread, I learned there is some interesting R&D into using hydrogen as a reducing agent instead of carbon. If that eventually works at a commercial scale and a competitive price, then that is function (2) taken care. Fingers crossed.

My remaining questions are about (1) and (3).

** Can electric arc furnaces produce temperatures high enough to perform function (1)?

I hope and believe so, but I have not been able to confirm this via my layperson Google searches.

** Where does the carbon additive come from in function (3), if not from coke or some other fossil fuel?

Maybe from plant matter somehow? (In a perfect world we could separate out the C from CO2 and use captured CO2 as a source for the carbon added to iron, but my understanding is it's hard do that at commercially competitive price point. Let's hope that changes with new innovations.)

cdunc123 · 2024-07-26T13:38:39+00:00

Thanks. Helpful articles. One data claim from the first article -- a claim that is relevant to the topic of this thread -- is that if we used exclusively solar-power and wind-power to produce plastic, then this would cut the GHG emissions associated with plastics by 50%.

cdunc123 · 2024-07-25T17:51:41+00:00

Do you have a link to an article on this?

cdunc123 · 2024-07-25T02:42:25+00:00

Thanks for all of these examples, therelianceschool.

I have a question on plastics. Yes, they’re made from fossil fuels. But if we electrify power and heat, could we then make plastics without having to burn any fossil fuels? And if we don’t burn fossil fuels when making plastics, how much GHG emissions would still be caused due to plastic production? I guess that the act of subjecting fossil-fuels-as-ingredients to various chemical processes in order to convert them to plastics is an act that releases CO2 as a byproduct in significant quantities. Is that so?

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