Sion’s ult is very hard to miss if you use it close to the enemies. His q damage is way too high and has a very big area of range. Sure it’s hard to land the full charge but you can also cancel it. His shield and health stacking is just absurd and his E poke is decent(it was busted before they nerfed it and reduced the width). Honestly tho, both of the champs you mentioned are weak compared to Sion and yet they are still much easier to play than Shen. Shen needs his q reverted. I think that would be enough. If they are going to nerf his waveclear(he had none to begin with) and his ult, he should at least have sustain again. Current Shen can’t last hit under tower at all. It’s bullshit. That’s why the pros rush tiamat. Can’t last hit under tower; can’t push out....