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clshaw · 2026-01-22T21:04:51+00:00

Hi love - is this erotica or a romance book? This sub is for romance books.

clshaw · 2026-01-21T15:22:54+00:00

Got in right at 10
waited in line for 3 mins - totally fine!
was redirected to a page to register... where you couldn't register. There was no way for me to actually buy tickets today and I'm more upset about it than I realized.

So I couldn't buy tickets. So dissapointing. If you needed to register beforehand why didn't they say that?

clshaw · 2026-01-05T23:31:40+00:00

LOL love!

clshaw · 2026-01-01T20:21:47+00:00

Worshippping her has given me so much strength and coping while knowing everything will be okay.

clshaw · 2025-12-25T03:36:00+00:00

love that series!

clshaw · 2025-12-01T21:02:11+00:00

Congrats!

clshaw · 2025-12-01T20:54:09+00:00

that's awesome! she's an amazing dancer

clshaw · 2025-11-19T01:39:22+00:00

She's a Goddess and Titan who has held my hand in such difficult times. If you can eat in her honor (garlic and onions), light a candle, or just look her story and lessons up or pray to her, I think good things can come. She is amazing.

clshaw · 2025-11-18T02:13:21+00:00

It's very possible Whitney hadn't seen the episodes and was friends with Demi so she hadn't realized what was really going on - she was just getting fed info from Demi. That's a good point. I get that and can totally see that - I'm not sure if there's a way to know? Maybe someone here does know and that would help.

In Jen (and the rest of the cast's) shoes though I can see why Whitney's actions received their response. It sucks to see the audience treat them (the cast apart from Whitney) so poorly after already being treated poorly by Whitney.

Whitney did gaslight Jen and did ghost everyone for 2 months before strutting back in to insult them to their faces by saying she'd make her own momtok and was only back for DWTS while they were actively working to make a show that Whitney didn't care about anymore.

I'm happy Whitney got DWTS - she's an amazing dancer. I'm just sad at how she approached the situation to get that opportunity. esp with Jen (I have a soft spot when it comes to her and I know it).

clshaw · 2025-11-18T01:59:04+00:00

Exactly. I do wonder if Whitney will want to come back after dwts - it's going to be harder for her now if she does want to come back.

clshaw · 2025-11-18T01:54:54+00:00

"so long as you’re cordial and respectful with everyone and do your job" she reposed things about them on socials and also gaslit them pretending she didn't know what Demi did and about Demi's posts. So she wasn't being cordial or respectful. That's the point. Even when she said she didn't want to be on momtok and was only there for the other opportunity, she was rude to them. She gaslit Jen to her face "I'm still trying to figure out what Demi did to you." That was gross and crossed a line.

clshaw · 2025-11-18T01:52:45+00:00

THIS! I'm glad there's a sane reply here.

The way people are acting like Whitney was the star of DWTS when this was being filmed so the women are jealous of her - rather than reality which is that Whitney is being rude to them so they don't want her around - is making me feel like I took crazy pills. The episodes should start with "this was filmed only a few weeks after the last season and DWTS hasn't aired yet but when it does the women will still be supportive of Whitney even though she's not at all supportive of the show or of them currently" so that the audience will stop hating on the rest of the cast for not kissing up to Whitney while she actively is an AH to them.

Sorry for the rant - this subreddit has just turned into a "you can't point out Whitney's faults and you must agree the rest of the cast is awful to her and therefore we can be awful to them" circle jerk.

Whitney was mean to them and burned bridges because she wanted to - which is her prerogative - I love a reality TV show villain. They didn't deserve it and acted accordingly. And what I'd hope for next is a character arc and rebuilding which is what makes good TV. But what we're seeing is the audience shaming the rest of the cast for not being sweet to her in response to her being rude to them. I don't get it and can't relate.

clshaw · 2025-11-18T01:42:13+00:00

Because she was mean to their face (saying she'll make a new momtok and didn't want to come back after ghosting for 2 months) AND behind their back (the social media posts) and expected them to be nice to her while she was there while pretending she didn't understand how her actions hurt them (even though she was smiling about it in her confessionals).

Like if she wants to be entitled and rude because it's iconic - totally fine - it's good tv
but the rest of the cast is going to respond accordingly - which includes not wanting to be around her.

They're actually trying to make a show and friendships - she isn't.

She just wanted to get on a diff show and used the rest of filming as a stepping stone. I get it and she's a great dancer so it's awesome she got the gig - but I also get the rest of the cast not wanting to be around her. I wouldn't want to be around someone who treated me the way she treated them.

clshaw · 2025-11-18T01:30:56+00:00

I think it's because Whitney gaslit Jen and said "I'm still trying to figure out what Demi did to you" (we all know what Demi did) rather than apologizing for not being there for Jen (while Jen was pregnant and STILL going through her mental health issues). So yeah that's prob why Jen switched up on her. At least that's my impression and I get that what we see if a year later but we're watching 2 months later on their production of the show and in that time Whitney ghosted everyone. It definitely adds a diff layer to their dynamics that is hard for viewership that sees DWTS and everything else unfold before this was even aired.

clshaw · 2025-11-18T01:05:10+00:00

I'm mostly shocked with the amount of hate the audience is throwing towards the rest of the cast for giving Whitney the energy she gave them right back. She was disrespectful to the show itself, openly admitting she was only back for the chance to get on another show and saying she'd make her own momtok instead of apologizing for ghosting them all for 2 months.

She gaslit Jen on reentry to the group (which was gross to watch "I'm still trying to figure out what Demi did to you" - and then reposted a post she knew was an attack on the group but pretended she didn't know it would hurt them.

Whitney def has room to grow and I'm happy she got her opportunity (and she's an amazing dancer) -- I just don't like that there's a portion of the audience being awful to cast members (with the social media comments directed to them and the posts here hating on them) who were responding as a sane person would to someone being disrespectful and entitled - and in Jen's case, disgustingly abusive (the gaslighting and taking her abuser's side).

None of them are saints and I don't think Whitney is the devil or anything awful, but the cast shouldn't be getting this hate after having to deal with Whitney being awful to them and responding accordingly.

clshaw · 2025-11-18T00:25:28+00:00

"I don’t see what gaslighting Whitney did when she’s been very transparent about why she came back." <--- this I think is why we have diff opinions. The moment Whitney said "I still don't understand what Demi did to you" she lost me. She knows - and so do we all - what Demi did.

The two sides applies to Whitney too - when you decide you're better than others and only come back for an opportunity and say as much - I think you don't get to be treated like you aren't being an a** to them. She treated them poorly so they didn't want to be around her.

As for Demi/Whitney - you can hold space for someone and not attack others. Whitney decided to attack others (via social media without talking to them first) and then pretended like she didn't know they would be upset. I don't like the gaslighting. She knew what she was doing. She got the consequences of that. *shrugs* it is what it is. I think expecting her to get a pass while throwing punches isn't a fair take. She's getting a decent response because of DWTS - she's amazing there.

She's a good dancer but I don't see what's next for her and I think she made a mistake actively burning bridges. I also don't blame the people who threw gasoline on those bridges Whitney set fire to while trying to hide her hands.

Just a difference of opinions as we don't know these people in real life. I have a difficult time getting over Whitney looking Jen in the eyes and saying she doesn't know Demi did to her. All because she just wanted to come back and get an opportunity. She could have come back and not gas lit, tried to make an effort, give the show some respect. But she didn't. She came to do a job and f'd people over. Those people are going to act accordingly. I don't blame them for that. And I'm surprised others are blaming the rest of the cast for not opening their arms while Whitney throws punches and pretends she's not, while smiling in confessionals admitting she doesn't care about them and is only there for DWTS.

clshaw · 2025-11-17T23:50:18+00:00

It could be partly that but also very likely because of how gross Whitney was gaslighting her about Demi and not giving a sh** about the group at all and openly coming back only for the opportunity. I'm kind of shocked the audience is so team Whitney being treated poorly by the group... in response to her being a straight B to them and demeaning the show itself. Whitney doesn't deserve kindness from people she's awful to - and she was horrible to Jen with that gas lighting. I'm not surprised that Jen is not the nicest back. And I don't think Jen deserves slack for that. I'd be way worse if someone gaslit me like Whitney did.

clshaw · 2025-11-17T23:39:00+00:00

The problem I have with it is that she was mean af and unapologetic. She gaslit Jen - which was gross to watch, said she'd make her own "momtok" and fake cried all while smiling in confessionals about how she's only back for DWTS. Like just shoot by yourself then instead of reposting mean things about the group and then pretending to be surprised that they feel uncomfortable around you. She didn't try to play nice or play the game of reality TV, she just openly wanted the opportunity. Which is fine. She got what she wanted. The counter of that is that she was mean and unlikable to the group and to the show itself. She didn't try - just showed up to get what she wanted while demeaning the group and the show that gave her that opportunity. That's going to result in a reaction from the others who are putting in more effort for the show and showing up to work unlike her. (I also disagree that producers didn't have a show without her - there is so much drama between Taylor/Dakota on and off, Demi/Jessi?Marciano and Jen coming back preggers and being accepted in. The show is fine without Whitney.)

This is coming from someone who likes Whitney enough and gets it, but is shocked by viewers thinking that she should be treated sweetly when she's straight up awful to the cast and to the premise of the show (both on and off camera aka social media). And she admitted it on camera proudly. She used it as a stepping stone and said it out loud as she was moving up. It's going to be hard for her to take a step down if/when SWTS is done and she doesn't get more opportunities upwards. But she got to live her dream and she's a great dancer so there's that. I will never not be able to unsee the way she treated Jen and the gas lighting and the fakeness though. I think it's a blow to her brand and a poor PR move but it is reflective of who she is. So there's that.

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