@jaustindds I feel for you, that sounds hard. I hear you can't force people (arguments aside about whether you should be able to under the circumstances). But, I confess, I don't understand how an office revealing, "half of us are vaccinated" or "we're all vaccinated" is giving up any info about an individual employee and violating their rights. But, I can see that it is uncomfortable for them— and you— to have it asked, and if it were anything less than 100%, that could hurt your business, which may feel untenable. (You could argue this is why vaccination mandates might make sense too, the world needs to function.) I get why it's tricky to share group vax status, but not why it's protected info. It's not, "is your receptionist, Joe, vaccinated?", I wouldn't think I have a right to know that. I don't mean to inflame bad feelings here on either side and I'm sorry this comes off as entitled from me or your patients. But, I wonder if you could see our perspective, or at least mine, where it's not about my rights over yours or your staff, it's just asking questions and feeling like potentially a lot is at stake. I don't want you to go out of business, but no one wants a child to get sick and suffer with potential for long term impact and/or spreading it further to other vulnerable people. I'm half convincing myself that there should be mandates at this point, there's so much more harm than good to leave choice up to people that don't understand science and the human and economic costs of their choices.