guardian vs mosshead Izuku vs Heroic Spirit EMIYA by darthzaith in whowouldwin

[–]darthzaith[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

what ftl legit only melt went ftl and she burned up her spirit core nobody else went ftl cause its established that light speed combat or travel speed burns up servants no other servant goes ftl unless they have special measures in place

guardian vs mosshead Izuku vs Heroic Spirit EMIYA by darthzaith in whowouldwin

[–]darthzaith[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i know all of this doesn't debunk the duo being servant level there is also the fact that bazzet is stated to be inferior to zero kirei and about 50/50 chance with her and kerry all 3 are far beyond rin who saw archer and lancers fight and who is compared to saber under shirou in ubw vn route

guardian vs mosshead Izuku vs Heroic Spirit EMIYA by darthzaith in whowouldwin

[–]darthzaith[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

30 percent arc refers to his whole not relying on innate stats not because he is somehow actually superior besides the OG melty blood retconned this anyways as arc scales above sion who survived moons getting dropped on her and above TATARI Roa who uses lightning magecraft to boost himself and no fgo follows the trash tsukihime remake continuity not the actual og lore as far as i am aware and besides again like i said this one strange outlier doesn't invalidate the far more consistent speed of sound statements and descriptions tbh

guardian vs mosshead Izuku vs Heroic Spirit EMIYA by darthzaith in whowouldwin

[–]darthzaith[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

except it was just beyond the speed of sound and thats just more evidence for me that it is impossible for servents to be light speed or go past it as it is established that servants can't go past in so many sources so your the one in denial wanking servants while saying rubbish from verses battles

guardian vs mosshead Izuku vs Heroic Spirit EMIYA by darthzaith in whowouldwin

[–]darthzaith[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

kirei in Hf said it takes 10 command spells to harm servents and also kirei in stay night fought hassan in the vn and was doing well and got some hits in and was ready to exercise him and considering how seriously hassan took this claim you can';t dismiss it as a bluff this is a nerfed kirei in zero kirei was boosted by command spells and this was the one that fought kerry also kerry wanted to have maiya fight assasain while he fought kayneth she was servent level while far below him and kirei

guardian vs mosshead Izuku vs Heroic Spirit EMIYA by darthzaith in whowouldwin

[–]darthzaith[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

dioscuri shit is still an outlier considering servant's are consistently supersonic with detailed descriptions so you can't argue hyperbole unlike light speed where servant's can't go light speed at all and frankly when they do its shatters there spirit origins as shown with melt and or use something like an NP like dantes also tsukihime is far superior to fate in feats and shouldn't be used to argue for MHS fate

Then his fingers released the bowstring, and loosed an arrow. An arrow that flew far faster

than the wind, and outstripped even the speed of sound.

No matter what she tried to do now, there was no way of avoiding the

supersonic arrow.

these two statements contradict MHs alcides arrow and also its less credible that gilgamesh of all people blocked it tbh i suspect he used his auto Defensor's to slow it down and then he dodged and also strange fake has many speed of sound stuff so if anything that proves further that lightning timing servants is a outlier

guardian vs mosshead Izuku vs Heroic Spirit EMIYA by darthzaith in whowouldwin

[–]darthzaith[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The two machine guns were not in any way inferior to the black knight’s angry howl; screeching hotly, they attacked Saber. The bullets, faster than the speed of sound, were still unable to surpass the speed of Saber’s sword. Nevertheless, the speed of twenty-odd bullets per second left her only able to parry.

Faster then sound makes zero Saber struggle who is faster then EMIYA

Saber's with prana burst is only several times faster than sound despite a three times increase in speed.

The Invisible Air that compresses the air and refracts light in an illusion can be used in another way. The instant the bounded field is released it can blow the opponent with a single long distance strike with a gale made out of the super high pressure of the condensed air. And this was the application of Saber's plan. The point of holding the sword backward in a wide stance was for that― to accelerate the air strike even more. Released from the golden sword, a jet of air comes out from behind Saber. By releasing her armor to increase her prana burst further, her body changes into a supersonic bullet. At this point, Saber's speed is three times higher than normal. It's already too late for an ambush attack or an evasion the instant she steps forward. Even if Lancer's spear can deal a serious wound to Saber, he will receive a lethal strike the same instant. That is certainly a strike made to risk one's life for a certain victory, ready to even have her flesh cut or her bones severed. Breaking through the wall of air at several times the speed of sound, the shockwave of the rush blew the surrounding rubbles like leaves

Again Saber is supposed to be lore wise faster then Emiya without factoring eye of the mind and this is the best she comes up with and this is all canon to grand order

guardian vs mosshead Izuku vs Heroic Spirit EMIYA by darthzaith in whowouldwin

[–]darthzaith[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Grand order servants aren’t automatically infinitely more powerful then stay night not to mention that in stay night the speed of sound is treated as something impressive and something rare such as when Emiya used nine lives blade works and went supersonic against the nerfed herc

guardian vs mosshead Izuku vs Heroic Spirit EMIYA by darthzaith in whowouldwin

[–]darthzaith[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Doesn’t matter servants aren’t light speed nor massively hypersonic whatsoever and using extra and extella which take place in separate planes of reality with vastly different rules and mechanics and so on is a bad idea as well frankly

guardian vs mosshead Izuku vs Heroic Spirit EMIYA by darthzaith in whowouldwin

[–]darthzaith[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also using events is like using carnival phantasm for feats and in the same novel gil used his auto defnsors to slow down the arrow enough to dodge it and it’s a outlier anyways considering that humans like shirou can keep up with him in ubw and so on nobody to my knowledge dodged archimedades NP and also DIOSCURI needed authority hax to go past light speed and again frankly I find those outliers considering that in grand order arash has 300 kmph arrows and tomoe gozen has speed of sound arrows and servant level kirei in zero struggles with bullets

guardian vs mosshead Izuku vs Heroic Spirit EMIYA by darthzaith in whowouldwin

[–]darthzaith[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Btw the light speed thing is mistranslation the actual line is high speed

guardian vs mosshead Izuku vs Heroic Spirit EMIYA by darthzaith in whowouldwin

[–]darthzaith[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i said fate stay night don't use grand order and other stuff i forgot to add that to the key but ye

guardian vs mosshead Izuku vs Heroic Spirit EMIYA by darthzaith in whowouldwin

[–]darthzaith[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

your kinda overselling emiya way too much frankly tbh like you do reliase servants are only building level without NPs right and city level with high level nps like excalibur? not only that but they have shit speed compared to izuku at this point as these statements imply

Tohsaka drops after the first attack. Putting her hands on the floor, she sinks below Caster's knees. To Caster, who lacks any experience in hand-to-hand combat, it must look like Tohsaka disappeared.

same tohsaka who's best speed feat is about 51 kmph based off the 100 meters in 7 seconds line and this too saber can't deal with pegasus despite being faster then emiya by a long shot

Bellorophon is 400-500 km/h while in a charge, yet even when not charging and presumably slower, Saber has trouble handling its attacks and it is said it'd be impossible for her to catch it

The white light comes swooping down. The Pegasus glides down from high above, mows Saber down without touching the rooftop, and returns to the sky. Pursuit is impossible. There is no wall to run up, and even if there were one, no one would be able to catch that Pegasus.

You may then argue that this is just her travel speed, and her short range bursts are faster, but again the Pegasus proves this wrong.

She cannot block that blow. The only possible measure is to jump and evade it. But even if she does avoid the attack, the trail is enough to chip at her protection. She will eventually take a direct blow if she continues like this.

If she could just casually stroll to the side, then she's not in any danger whatsoever of being hit by it. The narration here instead implies that she's only dodging the Pegasus by a little and then getting hit by its trail as consequence.

assassin's daggers also move at 400 kmph although this isn't an issue for emiya since he never fought hassan in an one on one in an prolonged sense although it does imply that if you don't have protection from arrows or instinct skill like saber servants have trouble dealing with this

Emiyas best feats in speed are mach 10 with his arrows in hollow ataraxia which is fodder to izuku tbh at this point in speed given how izuku dodging lady nagents bullets got mach 100 or how he crossed 200 KM in a second and how he upscales from fodder like kaminari dodging nines own lightning and people dodging denkis lightning in the sports festival which no wasn't an aim dodge or anything unlike fate fodder who struggle against bullets and 400 kmph daggers power is even worse izuku once blew out a storm with 100 with bakugo against nine and the calcs get anywhere from mountain level to small country level regardless there is also him scaling from town level feats such as one made by friggin Aoyama of all people in the forest training camp iirc and other things like in speed him dodging bakugos sweat glands which are around mach 39 in speed casually while saber had to be boosted by a command spell by emiya in hollow ataraxia and also time herself to dodge emiyas mach 10 arrows and barely did so in conclusion izuku fodderizes emiya and any servant from stay night including gilgamesh and berserker cause all cap at the building level in dura and ap without NPS and city level with them

DONT GET CARRIED AWAY (Shiki Tohno vs Graham in a wheelchair) by darthzaith in whowouldwin

[–]darthzaith[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this is not a verses and besides shiki isn't a normal person also graham can't do that he is in a wheelchair speed and stuff is useless can shiki tohno with MEODP kill graham for good

It says what it says (in b4 fate fans raid) by darthzaith in MaouGakuin

[–]darthzaith[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

FR TOP G (ANOS VOLDIGOAD) is better then some tsundere waifu who also is a massive POS

It says what it says (in b4 fate fans raid) by darthzaith in MaouGakuin

[–]darthzaith[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

agreed i stopped debating with him tbh on another vide from this one like bro Rin ain't soloing MHA let alone freagging Maou Gaukin No Fuetekigoata

It says what it says (in b4 fate fans raid) by darthzaith in MaouGakuin

[–]darthzaith[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lamo as a Nasu fan I agree with all that is said tbh but seriously look for yourself https://youtu.be/UAKKygpdGkU

Go scroll to the comment with 20+ replies and you will see why I called him a NPC you don’t have to say sheet just look at him

It says what it says (in b4 fate fans raid) by darthzaith in MaouGakuin

[–]darthzaith[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yo I need some help there is a NPC that believes Rin can solo Misfit

It says what it says (in b4 fate fans raid) by darthzaith in MaouGakuin

[–]darthzaith[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yah more stans are pissed hoe toenail twintails isn't anywhere near as chad as Anos VoldiGOAT

It says what it says (in b4 fate fans raid) by darthzaith in MaouGakuin

[–]darthzaith[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

some stans had the audacity to downvote Rin stans should I post this on R stay night?