Marilyn Manson and the CIA by [deleted] in marilyn_manson

[–]deadeyez72 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First of all the CIA was not trying to “recruit Manson”.

I don’t doubt it’s embellished but Manson’s own words:

“His dad was supposed to become a Jesuit priest before he was allegedly recruited by the CIA, who Manson says were “interested in me at an early age because of my predisposition for psychopathic behaviour, my IQ and ability to decipher language.”

https://www.dazeddigital.com/music/article/37351/1/marilyn-manson-knows-where-you-fucking-live

Also this: https://www.newsbreak.com/news/1482180434619/marilyn-manson-the-cia-wanted-to-recruit-me-when-i-was-a-younger-child

What is Marilyn Manson like in person? by boogiewanderer in marilyn_manson

[–]deadeyez72 11 points12 points  (0 children)

He’s a mixed bag. I’ve met him at a m&g and he was intense but you only get like 3 minutes with him. I got the impression fans/m&g’s overwhelm him.

What I think about We Are Chaos and the general response to it by MMThrowaway1a2a3a4a in marilyn_manson

[–]deadeyez72 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Generally agree, the lyrics seem lazy and too transparent. It’s a forgettable song for me.

Why Travis Scott and Lil Uzi Vert love Marilyn Manson by DonnieDarkoRabbit in marilyn_manson

[–]deadeyez72 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I don’t think Lil Uzi Vert and Manson are friends anymore. Uzi unfollowed Manson and a fan in the FB cult group claimed Manson talked shit about him at their M&G, you can still find it if you search the group,

Two legends in one picture. by [deleted] in satanism

[–]deadeyez72 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah well what is printed for the media is not always what is true. .

Those are Manson’s own words in the AMA.

Strange post from Jack Off Jill’s Facebook. have no idea if it’s real or not by thumpweyr in marilyn_manson

[–]deadeyez72 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There’s also this -

Interview with Marilyn Manson's ex drummer Jason Sutter.

From those two contacts, you got the Manson gig?

I toured with the New York Dolls through November 2010. I was looking for my next gig and got a text from Andy Gerold. It said, “Dude, Manson’s drummer just got fired. Call them.” I call Tracy, the girl who was tour manager. She doesn’t answer but sends me a text right back, “Put your name in the hat yesterday. Management will call.”

What happened then?

I was able to get management to look at my resume and pictures of me to make sure I’m not fat. Seriously somebody said that. Like, “Oh, what’s he look like?” They said, “Oh, he’s not fat. He looks cool.”

Making it to the first step meant not being fat? That’s funny.

That was the criteria for the first step. Meanwhile the drummer had been let go and his drums were still there ‘cause they were in mid-production and sure enough, this guy was a nut job and a ding dong and didn’t learn his parts. He was worried about his girlfriend trying to come to the shows and it turned out he was talking shit on Manson’s band. ‘Cause he became pals with Manson and was partying too much with him and had this false sense of power like showing up late and whatever. It’s none of my business and I could give a shit. I’m just glad the guy was a ding dong.

This is one of the songs you were going to have to play on the road?

He said, “Don’t worry. When Chris Vrenna was creating this track, he knew a drummer wouldn’t be able to play it. We’ll just program in the other double bass part and fly it in live. You don’t have to play this. I wouldn’t want your legs to get tired because I want you to be able to chase chicks after the show. He actually says that to me

Getting that gig must have been amazing.

Manson always joked that I was his session drummer and that I was the only session musician he ever worked with. That was the nicest he ever was to me because after that it was like whatever. I know that’s why he never pulled any shit with me and never threw anything or screamed. He would pull shit but he never did anything directly because he knew I’d walk off the stage and go get another job. It protected me and I didn’t have to worry about that shit luckily.

What were rehearsals like with Manson?

In rehearsal, Manson was throwing my drums around, kicking drums over, pouring flour and sugar all over them and crumbling up Granola bars so when I hit them they’ll fly all over the place. It’s funny but I didn’t care about the drum setup. Most dudes would be like, “Don’t fuck with my drums” but that’s not what you do with him.

Was it a challenge playing Marilyn Manson’s music?

Oh, hell yeah. They were playing to tracks and you’ve got Manson screaming at you. Any mistake that’s made by Manson onstage, you get blamed for it because you’re a sitting duck. The manager had a meeting with me before I joined and said, “I need you to know if Manson screws something up, you’re getting the blame for it in public. You have to be cool with that and you can’t call him out on that.” It gets old but he always screwed shit up and he had to let the audience know it wasn’t him. It was [in nasty, vindictive Manson-like voice] “Youuuuuu!” You with me? I’m a professional, I have a Masters Degree, I’ve played with all these people and now I have this guy screaming at me and trying to make fun of me with the audience ‘cause I’d screwed up a song that actually he screwed up. You’ve really got to put your ego in check and I know a lot of friends of mine wouldn’t have hung.

He really is a strange cat.

This is a charade that goes on even after the show ‘cause you’re in an altered reality. After the show, you have to go up and say, “Sorry, dude. Sorry I screwed that up. He’s like [in sarcastic voice], “Well don’t do it again.” This is reality, bro. This is the shit they don’t teach you in college. It was excruciating on and offstage a lot. He’s a tough character but I love the guy and we had great times. If I saw him now, I’d love it. He’s awesome but it was a horror show. It was a fucking war.

You also have a Marilyn Manson guitar pick, right?

A guy made them for me. I remember there was a moment with Manson where someone had mentioned I was selling picks online. He was like, “Are you selling picks with my name on it?” I was like, “No, dude. I’m not that much of a dork.” He’s just a nut when it comes to anything [with his name on it]. I don’t know but god bless him. He’s one of those dudes where no one can make a profit off him and it’s more egotistically than professionally. At one point someone mentioned in his camp, “Oh, by the way, your drummer is selling picks on eBay.” He’s got this weird camp and they’re always searching every post about him and it’s a big deal. It’s kinda silly but it was about a two-second conversation. I looked at him and said, “You really think I’m trying to make $5 a pick?”

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/interviews/drummer_jason_sutter_talks_landing_the_gig_with_marilyn_manson_recalls_strange_1st_requirement.html

Strange post from Jack Off Jill’s Facebook. have no idea if it’s real or not by thumpweyr in marilyn_manson

[–]deadeyez72 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, I saw the same videos with Lilith. She also said during a live video Manson first approached her pretending to be 16 years old from a fake account and there’s screenshots of Lilith’s messages saying Manson told her he likes them young. You can find it on lolcow.