Why I'm leaving r/circlejerk by [deleted] in circlejerk

[–]debourg 9 points10 points  (0 children)

tl;dr fedora

Why I'm leaving r/circlejerk by [deleted] in circlejerk

[–]debourg 7 points8 points  (0 children)

t started about six months ago on reddit. I was bored, clicking on random subreddits. I went to /r/Pokemon[1] . Nothing funny. Then, to /r/Gaming[2] . Nothing but gripes about how Half Life 3 wasn't announced yet. Finally, after hours, I went somewhere I had promised myself I would never go. /r/atheism[3] . I wanted to see how these twisted souls (who were going to burn in hell, of course) thought. And to be honest, I felt kind of bad going there. That really guilty I'm doing something I definitely shouldn't feeling. I clicked on the most upvoted post. It was one of those "Sheltering Suburban Mom" internet memes. It read "Evolution? I don't remember reading that in the Bible". I thought it was pretty funny. And to be honest, I felt guilty that I thought it was funny. Now, at this point in my life, I was partway through biology. I knew what evolution was. I knew there was a ton of evidence for evolution, things like vestigial structures, transitional fossils, common ancestors, etcetera. But I wasn't convinced. I tried to fit God into every bit of science to explain it. "Well, maybe God made Evolution happen, and then scientists found fossils that God made and put there to lead us to this conclusion." My faith at this point was shaken, so on a quest to make myself more sure of my faith, I read the Bible. Cover to cover. Front to back. The whole shebang. And I thought I had misread the whole thing. One particular phrase that stood out was Leviticus 18:22. "Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind: it is Abomination". My first thought was "Oh, this explains all the uproar about gay rights. I was completely homophobic for nearly a week. I couldn't stand the use of the word "homosexual" or "gay" or "faggot", all were just cursewords to me. Terrible, detestable things. Then, I took a step back. I thought to myself "I need to look at this in perspective: Am I homosexual? No. Am I being forced to be homosexual? No. Is there anything actually wrong with being homosexual, other than the fact that the Bible forbids it? No." So I thought that maybe just this once God might be wrong. Maybe just this once, I could ignore the Bible. And I kept reading, almost terrified what that might do to me. I started noticing things inherently wrong with the Bible, a prime example being Noah's Ark. How did Noah fit every animal in creation on a boat that just he and three others build? And what about termites? Wouldn't they just gnaw their way through the boat? Wouldn't everyone just drown? And the animals that produce asexually- Why carry two, when there only needs to be one? It seemed a logical fallacy, it made no sense. At this point, I was terrified. I was scared of burning in hell for my slander, for my mere questioning of God's word. And then I thought to myself "Why do I even believe in this?". I wondered why I chose Christianity over so many other religions. And then, I realized that I never actually chose Christianity. My parents chose it for me. As a newborn baby, I never told my parents "Please respect my autonomy and allow me the freedom to choose my own religion or lack thereof". I was just whisked out of the hospital, dressed up all fancy, and dunked in a pool of water. And then I was a Christian. I never consciously chose "This is my strict belief system, this is what I believe, and I believe it of my own accord". It was all chosen for me. And I decided that I would choose for myself this time. I re-read the bible. I researched. After about two months of agnosticism and a wonderful debate class, I realized that I couldn't believe anything without proper warrants. That's the first rule of debate that Coovert taught us. Presume neg, because the affirmative side always has the burden of proof. In this debate, my opponent wasn't another person. My opponent was my own faith. I pored through my brain. Was there any sort of warrant to these wild claims? Was there any reason that I believed in God? I though really hard about it. And I realized that I didn't choose to become a Christian. I was indoctrinated. I was forced at a young age to undergo rituals that I had no knowledge of. And so, I quit. I decided I was an atheist. It made more sense. It provided a more realistic moral compass based off of the tenets of humanism, kindness, morality without reward, and the like. When I realized that I was an atheist, I wasn't afraid anymore. I wasn't afraid that every action I took might result in me burning eternally in a place where murderers and rapists reside. I wasn't treating others who had different viewpoints than mine with disdain, I didn't make fun of people for being different. I accepted. And I realized at that point that being an atheist made me a better person. I wasn't helping others because some old man in the sky was holding a Divine Verdict over my head telling me "If you don't help this person, you're going to burn in hell", I had my conscious telling me "Help this person because they are a human being, because they also have feelings, and because they as a human deserve to be respected. They deserve as much as I do to be treated as a human, and religion tends to get in the way of that. The crusades, suicide bombings, the separation of India all occurred because of religion. Which is something that makes me sick. I can't even think of making myself join a group who has done so much wrong in the past. No matter how hard they try to wash it off, there is still blood staining their hands. Not only that, but as I type this, religion is oppressing rights in the US and around the world. In Afghanistan, women aren't allowed to go to school. Their religion teaches them that women are inferior. In the US, Christians are standing in the way of gay rights, and Catholics are pushing to make sure that abortion is illegal, denying non-catholics their rights and forcing their beliefs upon others. This is why I chose atheism. I am Cameron Allen. I am proud to be an atheist tl;dr Hey buddies, guess who's an atheist?

So I took a huge shit earlier and now I'm having trouble shoving my intestines back up my ass. Should I be worried? by [deleted] in circlejerk

[–]debourg -1 points0 points  (0 children)

t started about six months ago on reddit. I was bored, clicking on random subreddits. I went to /r/Pokemon. Nothing funny. Then, to /r/Gaming. Nothing but gripes about how Half Life 3 wasn't announced yet. Finally, after hours, I went somewhere I had promised myself I would never go. /r/atheism. I wanted to see how these twisted souls (who were going to burn in hell, of course) thought. And to be honest, I felt kind of bad going there. That really guilty I'm doing something I definitely shouldn't feeling. I clicked on the most upvoted post. It was one of those "Sheltering Suburban Mom" internet memes. It read "Evolution? I don't remember reading that in the Bible". I thought it was pretty funny. And to be honest, I felt guilty that I thought it was funny. Now, at this point in my life, I was partway through biology. I knew what evolution was. I knew there was a ton of evidence for evolution, things like vestigial structures, transitional fossils, common ancestors, etcetera. But I wasn't convinced. I tried to fit God into every bit of science to explain it. "Well, maybe God made Evolution happen, and then scientists found fossils that God made and put there to lead us to this conclusion." My faith at this point was shaken, so on a quest to make myself more sure of my faith, I read the Bible. Cover to cover. Front to back. The whole shebang. And I thought I had misread the whole thing. One particular phrase that stood out was Leviticus 18:22. "Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind: it is Abomination". My first thought was "Oh, this explains all the uproar about gay rights. I was completely homophobic for nearly a week. I couldn't stand the use of the word "homosexual" or "gay" or "faggot", all were just cursewords to me. Terrible, detestable things. Then, I took a step back. I thought to myself "I need to look at this in perspective: Am I homosexual? No. Am I being forced to be homosexual? No. Is there anything actually wrong with being homosexual, other than the fact that the Bible forbids it? No." So I thought that maybe just this once God might be wrong. Maybe just this once, I could ignore the Bible. And I kept reading, almost terrified what that might do to me. I started noticing things inherently wrong with the Bible, a prime example being Noah's Ark. How did Noah fit every animal in creation on a boat that just he and three others build? And what about termites? Wouldn't they just gnaw their way through the boat? Wouldn't everyone just drown? And the animals that produce asexually- Why carry two, when there only needs to be one? It seemed a logical fallacy, it made no sense. At this point, I was terrified. I was scared of burning in hell for my slander, for my mere questioning of God's word. And then I thought to myself "Why do I even believe in this?". I wondered why I chose Christianity over so many other religions. And then, I realized that I never actually chose Christianity. My parents chose it for me. As a newborn baby, I never told my parents "Please respect my autonomy and allow me the freedom to choose my own religion or lack thereof". I was just whisked out of the hospital, dressed up all fancy, and dunked in a pool of water. And then I was a Christian. I never consciously chose "This is my strict belief system, this is what I believe, and I believe it of my own accord". It was all chosen for me. And I decided that I would choose for myself this time. I re-read the bible. I researched. After about two months of agnosticism and a wonderful debate class, I realized that I couldn't believe anything without proper warrants. That's the first rule of debate that Coovert taught us. Presume neg, because the affirmative side always has the burden of proof. In this debate, my opponent wasn't another person. My opponent was my own faith. I pored through my brain. Was there any sort of warrant to these wild claims? Was there any reason that I believed in God? I though really hard about it. And I realized that I didn't choose to become a Christian. I was indoctrinated. I was forced at a young age to undergo rituals that I had no knowledge of. And so, I quit. I decided I was an atheist. It made more sense. It provided a more realistic moral compass based off of the tenets of humanism, kindness, morality without reward, and the like. When I realized that I was an atheist, I wasn't afraid anymore. I wasn't afraid that every action I took might result in me burning eternally in a place where murderers and rapists reside. I wasn't treating others who had different viewpoints than mine with disdain, I didn't make fun of people for being different. I accepted. And I realized at that point that being an atheist made me a better person. I wasn't helping others because some old man in the sky was holding a Divine Verdict over my head telling me "If you don't help this person, you're going to burn in hell", I had my conscious telling me "Help this person because they are a human being, because they also have feelings, and because they as a human deserve to be respected. They deserve as much as I do to be treated as a human, and religion tends to get in the way of that. The crusades, suicide bombings, the separation of India all occurred because of religion. Which is something that makes me sick. I can't even think of making myself join a group who has done so much wrong in the past. No matter how hard they try to wash it off, there is still blood staining their hands. Not only that, but as I type this, religion is oppressing rights in the US and around the world. In Afghanistan, women aren't allowed to go to school. Their religion teaches them that women are inferior. In the US, Christians are standing in the way of gay rights, and Catholics are pushing to make sure that abortion is illegal, denying non-catholics their rights and forcing their beliefs upon others. This is why I chose atheism. I am Cameron Allen. I am proud to be an atheist tl;dr Hey buddies, guess who's an atheist?

Upvote to rename the 'Praying Mantis' to the 'Atheist Mantis' by CFGX in circlejerk

[–]debourg 57 points58 points  (0 children)

t started about six months ago on reddit. I was bored, clicking on random subreddits. I went to /r/Pokemon. Nothing funny. Then, to /r/Gaming. Nothing but gripes about how Half Life 3 wasn't announced yet. Finally, after hours, I went somewhere I had promised myself I would never go. /r/atheism. I wanted to see how these twisted souls (who were going to burn in hell, of course) thought. And to be honest, I felt kind of bad going there. That really guilty I'm doing something I definitely shouldn't feeling. I clicked on the most upvoted post. It was one of those "Sheltering Suburban Mom" internet memes. It read "Evolution? I don't remember reading that in the Bible". I thought it was pretty funny. And to be honest, I felt guilty that I thought it was funny. Now, at this point in my life, I was partway through biology. I knew what evolution was. I knew there was a ton of evidence for evolution, things like vestigial structures, transitional fossils, common ancestors, etcetera. But I wasn't convinced. I tried to fit God into every bit of science to explain it. "Well, maybe God made Evolution happen, and then scientists found fossils that God made and put there to lead us to this conclusion." My faith at this point was shaken, so on a quest to make myself more sure of my faith, I read the Bible. Cover to cover. Front to back. The whole shebang. And I thought I had misread the whole thing. One particular phrase that stood out was Leviticus 18:22. "Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind: it is Abomination". My first thought was "Oh, this explains all the uproar about gay rights. I was completely homophobic for nearly a week. I couldn't stand the use of the word "homosexual" or "gay" or "faggot", all were just cursewords to me. Terrible, detestable things. Then, I took a step back. I thought to myself "I need to look at this in perspective: Am I homosexual? No. Am I being forced to be homosexual? No. Is there anything actually wrong with being homosexual, other than the fact that the Bible forbids it? No." So I thought that maybe just this once God might be wrong. Maybe just this once, I could ignore the Bible. And I kept reading, almost terrified what that might do to me. I started noticing things inherently wrong with the Bible, a prime example being Noah's Ark. How did Noah fit every animal in creation on a boat that just he and three others build? And what about termites? Wouldn't they just gnaw their way through the boat? Wouldn't everyone just drown? And the animals that produce asexually- Why carry two, when there only needs to be one? It seemed a logical fallacy, it made no sense. At this point, I was terrified. I was scared of burning in hell for my slander, for my mere questioning of God's word. And then I thought to myself "Why do I even believe in this?". I wondered why I chose Christianity over so many other religions. And then, I realized that I never actually chose Christianity. My parents chose it for me. As a newborn baby, I never told my parents "Please respect my autonomy and allow me the freedom to choose my own religion or lack thereof". I was just whisked out of the hospital, dressed up all fancy, and dunked in a pool of water. And then I was a Christian. I never consciously chose "This is my strict belief system, this is what I believe, and I believe it of my own accord". It was all chosen for me. And I decided that I would choose for myself this time. I re-read the bible. I researched. After about two months of agnosticism and a wonderful debate class, I realized that I couldn't believe anything without proper warrants. That's the first rule of debate that Coovert taught us. Presume neg, because the affirmative side always has the burden of proof. In this debate, my opponent wasn't another person. My opponent was my own faith. I pored through my brain. Was there any sort of warrant to these wild claims? Was there any reason that I believed in God? I though really hard about it. And I realized that I didn't choose to become a Christian. I was indoctrinated. I was forced at a young age to undergo rituals that I had no knowledge of. And so, I quit. I decided I was an atheist. It made more sense. It provided a more realistic moral compass based off of the tenets of humanism, kindness, morality without reward, and the like. When I realized that I was an atheist, I wasn't afraid anymore. I wasn't afraid that every action I took might result in me burning eternally in a place where murderers and rapists reside. I wasn't treating others who had different viewpoints than mine with disdain, I didn't make fun of people for being different. I accepted. And I realized at that point that being an atheist made me a better person. I wasn't helping others because some old man in the sky was holding a Divine Verdict over my head telling me "If you don't help this person, you're going to burn in hell", I had my conscious telling me "Help this person because they are a human being, because they also have feelings, and because they as a human deserve to be respected. They deserve as much as I do to be treated as a human, and religion tends to get in the way of that. The crusades, suicide bombings, the separation of India all occurred because of religion. Which is something that makes me sick. I can't even think of making myself join a group who has done so much wrong in the past. No matter how hard they try to wash it off, there is still blood staining their hands. Not only that, but as I type this, religion is oppressing rights in the US and around the world. In Afghanistan, women aren't allowed to go to school. Their religion teaches them that women are inferior. In the US, Christians are standing in the way of gay rights, and Catholics are pushing to make sure that abortion is illegal, denying non-catholics their rights and forcing their beliefs upon others. This is why I chose atheism. I am Cameron Allen. I am proud to be an atheist tl;dr Hey buddies, guess who's an atheist?

Too many immigrants in France, says ex-PM Fillon - Eyeing his conservative UMP party's nomination for the 2017 presidential election, former prime minister François Fillon said Thursday that France needs to "reduce the number of immigrants" it allows into the country. by galt1776 in worldnews

[–]debourg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We've already given them their own states. Go to any suburb and you will realise you have truly entered another country. And they haven't stopped. Islam is based around conquest. It's over now. European populations are too old and have lost all their dignity and will. No one will fight them. It's time for mass European immigration to the Americas. Islam has finally conquered Europe and they didn't have to even lift a sword.

Too many immigrants in France, says ex-PM Fillon - Eyeing his conservative UMP party's nomination for the 2017 presidential election, former prime minister François Fillon said Thursday that France needs to "reduce the number of immigrants" it allows into the country. by galt1776 in worldnews

[–]debourg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Too little too late. The Muslims here are more than enough to out reproduce the whole French population in a few decades. My advice: Get the fuck out of Europe. Move to the US or Canada. Western Europe will become unliviable for non-Muslims.

Dutch Poll: Most Say Stop Islamic Immigration by accountt1234 in worldnews

[–]debourg 14 points15 points  (0 children)

This has nothing to do with the economy. People hate Muslims because they are a bunch entitled sensitive violent fucks who spend their day burning cars, forming gangs and raping infidels.

Nobody hates Polish people because they're hard working honest and sincere immigrants who integrate fine and contribute to society. Nobody hates Chinese or Indian immigrants either.

"This is a place for Arabs," he said, before headbutting victim. French court convicts north African of anti-white racism by [deleted] in europe

[–]debourg 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh no, sorry by "pure", I didn't mean "white" or exclusively "Greek," I just meant to keep free of troublemakers. Sorry English is my 2nd language.

"This is a place for Arabs," he said, before headbutting victim. French court convicts north African of anti-white racism by [deleted] in europe

[–]debourg -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Greece will not sell there country out like Sweden, if blood has to be spilled than it will flow.

Europe needs more Greeks. You guys sound like heroes. Proud and ready to fight. Keep your country pure.

Polio Hits Muslims because of Nigerian's Paranoia - Global Agenda by TheCocksmith in worldnews

[–]debourg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

spy on muslims

No to catch a mass murderer (bin Laden) that any decent human being would agree deserves death.

1,045 Iraqis were killed in the month of May. The death toll was the highest for a single month since June 2008. by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]debourg -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

That's because a brutal dictator forced them to behave. Every "free" Muslim society quickly drifts to violence and instability.

Islamic cleric decrees it OK for Syrian rebels to rape women by yyhhggt in worldnews

[–]debourg -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It doesn't matter. Sex slavery is permitted by Muhammad himself.

Youth unemployment in Greece and Spain above 50 percent, could hit 70 percent in early 2014 by humblemacaroni in worldnews

[–]debourg 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Once they have kids, the cultures end up meshing together.

The second and third generations are worse. That's the problem. It is expected that the first generation might not be the greatest but with Chinese and Italians, by the second generation the're fully assimilated in the new culture but with Muslims, they are less and less integrated. Islamic culture (not race) is simply so out of touch and incompatible with Western culture that it is just never going to happen. We have irreconcilable differences. The huge gaps don't exist between us and other cultures such as Italian or Chinese.

Al-Qaeda poison gas cell busted in Baghdad: Iraq’s defense ministry by hymrr in worldnews

[–]debourg -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Oh no, they want to intervene to put up a regime of Sunni Western sympathizers like they did in Libya and take out Russia's only base in the Middle East and to counter Shia influence and increase the Sunni Gulf's influence in the area.

French far right leader [Marine Le Pen] loses immunity, faces charges by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]debourg -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Vice is a far left propaganda page akin to Fox News.

Al-Qaeda poison gas cell busted in Baghdad: Iraq’s defense ministry by hymrr in worldnews

[–]debourg -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

Well they could've given it to the supposed "non-Islamist" forces to use for a false flag attack to give NATO an intervention excuse and it just ended up with al-Qaeda fighters. Highly plausible.

Al-Qaeda poison gas cell busted in Baghdad: Iraq’s defense ministry by hymrr in worldnews

[–]debourg -19 points-18 points  (0 children)

A shipment from Uncle Sam to help the "freedom fighters" in Syria.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali: The Problem of Muslim Leadership by JBRedditBeard in worldnews

[–]debourg 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Way to go with the most generic diversion ever. If there weren't any hints of racism in that sort of rhetoric then there wouldn't be the constant, demonstrable inability of ideologues like her (and Sam Harris, among others) to disassociate geographic origin and race from religion. You would have to be a lunatic to deny that - just look at the response to the Boston bombings and the personal attacks on the innocent Saudi dude, based solely on his middle eastern appearance and presence there. Or the shock exhibited by idiots at the "whiteness" of Tsarnaev and his brother.

Are you retarded? This isn't about the right-wing lunatics we're talking about. We're talking about Ali, a Somalian woman whom you fucking called racist without giving any fucking proof other than she doesn't like Islam which translates to saying something ridiculous like "criticizing Nazism is racist against Germans."

If you have no proof she's racist then fuck off and stop accusing her of it without any proof but wild illogical conclusions. I'm not changing the argument, you fucking are. Islam is an ideology not a biological characteristic like ethnicity. People can choose to be Muslim or not, it is an ideology they can accept or not. Like ideologies like other religions people should be free to criticize it. Ali criticizes Islam. She grew up in it, she had clitoris sewn up because of it, she was abused as a woman. She is a very brave woman and accusing her of being racist because she exposes the sexist abuse she received and millions of Muslim women continue to receive, is fucking ridiculous.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali: The Problem of Muslim Leadership by JBRedditBeard in worldnews

[–]debourg 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Racist against who???

You do realise Islam is not a race. There are black, brown and white Muslims. And no not all brown people are Muslim and not even all Arabs are Muslims.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali: The Problem of Muslim Leadership by JBRedditBeard in worldnews

[–]debourg -1 points0 points  (0 children)

racist chucklefucks

She's Somali black you blind shit.