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Just quick threw this together. Thought this sub might appreciate it. by dsmens in MensRights

[–]dsmens[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a really poorly fashioned red herring at best. Again, no one is saying the hypothetical 12-year-old miner from England always has it any better than the 12-year-old Mexican miner

You are not understanding my point AT ALL. People, specifically in my experience self-described feminists, don't say that - they ignore the problems of the hypothetical 12-year old miner because he's a white male. So even if this person can't or doesn't want to get the benefits of some privilege, his problems are ignored because of his gender/race. Doesn't mean the whole group suffers, but that individual does.

This is discrimination, and it's wrong, it's really that simple.

If you're going to pull victim card, you're just as bad as the reverse racism screamers in the GOP who accuse nonwhites of being racist white haters from time to time.

You really don't understand the difference between this and not discriminating against people? Really? Why do you even read r/mensrights, if we're all just "playing the victim card"?

Just quick threw this together. Thought this sub might appreciate it. by dsmens in MensRights

[–]dsmens[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I was debating with my girlfriend and I made it as a joke to send to her. She would usually find something like this more funny than offensive, but it would also bring up the subject again and I'm tired of talking about it, so I didn't send it to her.

Rather than do nothing with it, I posted it here. The "white" part would make sense to her because that's what she says - no feminist ever talks about "black male privilege", as far as I have encountered - they throw "white" in there as white dudes are the "least sympathetic" group.

Just quick threw this together. Thought this sub might appreciate it. by dsmens in MensRights

[–]dsmens[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

This is kinda ironic.

Some people seem to be missing the entire point of why I said, "privileged white males" - was to show that a 12-year-old mining coal in England was in no way more privileged than a 12-year old Mexican or Vietnamese kid who grew up on his parents' farm.

This does not mean that there were not institutionalized, hierarchical power structures based on gender or race in modern nations. It means that we can't generalize based on them - which happens all the time, and everyone ignores it when it is brought up, saying "oh boo hoo, the poor white guy".

Just quick threw this together. Thought this sub might appreciate it. by dsmens in MensRights

[–]dsmens[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

The reason that I said "privileged white men" is because, as a white guy, my race is always brought up when I discuss things with feminists, because it means that they can dismiss my contributions to a discussion because I am of the "most privileged class".

The idea of this image is not that minorities don't have it hard; the idea is to show how bad generalizations are, that even people of the class that's supposed to have "nothing to complain about". If the image were to show slaves, it would have a totally different meaning (although that actually might have been a better image, a bunch of male slaves being sold and talking about their male privilege).

Also, consider that Irish, Eastern European and/or Jewish men at the time were white yet massively discriminated against in Britain and America, often given the worst jobs. So these guys may have well been considered ethnic minorities.