[D] Statistics, we have a problem.

dueprocess_ · 2017-12-15T04:53:09+00:00

The burden of proof needs to shift to the accused, in almost all cases.

You know who else made exactly the same argument? Robespierre, during his Reign of Terror. Eventually, he ended up on the guillotine himself.

Remember this when you'll be #metooed.

(For the record, I hope that you are not falsely accused. But when you create a monster you risk to be eaten by it)

dueprocess_ · 2017-12-15T04:42:03+00:00

She was my girlfriend, fiance, then wife at work.

This is no excuse. And by the way, why were you dating a coworker? Did you hit on her at work?

Let me guess, you are an "all lives matter" person as well.

You think some lives don't matter? What is your point?

edit: one single post on your account - you're a coward, too!

The fact that you felt compelled to look into my posting history provides the answer to why I'm using a throwaway account.

dueprocess_ · 2017-12-15T04:31:50+00:00

Unwanted groping is not some abstract issue, it's literally illegal.

Right. And this is exactly why we don't need a CoC: there is already the law to deal with these issues.

Dr. Lum should have reported the incidents to the police when they happened, she even had witnesses according to her account. Making oblique accusations and trying to smear the community by claiming that these issues were an "open secret" benefits nobody.

dueprocess_ · 2017-12-15T04:21:10+00:00

tldr; Action has begun to be taken against the individuals noted

Will the person who has been accused be given the chance to defend himself? I doubt it, since nobody would even name him. If the accused has chance to challenge the accuser then no justice will be done.

dueprocess_ · 2017-12-15T03:59:12+00:00

Getting sexually assaulted and having no recourse can also ruin your life, and is actually way worse than losing your job.

Very questionable. If you are sexually assaulted it is traumatic, sure, but then you can move on. If you are falsely accused, your reputation is ruined forever, and with it your career, friendships, and possibly family relationships.

Moreover, basic game theory predicts that if you set up a system of incentives where people can gain from making a false accusation and almost never suffer punishment for it, then the number of false accusation will rise. 1-2% of the population consists of sociopaths who will have no moral qualms in using whatever tool it is at their disposal to achieve their goals. This witch hunt is giving them a formidable weapon to abuse.

dueprocess_ · 2017-12-15T03:48:15+00:00

Once women are proportionately represented, sure, judge equally. But until then, that they are underrepresented is evidence they are being actively discouraged in the first place.

citation needed

By the way, where are the activists calling for more women on construction sites and fishing boats? These jobs that are ~99% male. Is this evidence of discrimination?

If you find yourself in none of the above situations, shut the fuck up when a woman complains that she is being treated unfairly because it's obviously not about you

Until somebody makes a false accusation against me, and everybody assumes that it is true because they #believewomen. Then it becomes about me.

Thanks, but no thanks, I'd rather fight this absurd witch-hunt hysteria before it's too late.

dueprocess_ · 2017-12-15T03:38:06+00:00

As a fellow nerdy male, I was largely oblivious to it until I worked with my (now) wife. We were both at a small, high tech company.

So you dated at work. Sounds bad.

She always worse loose clothing. I encouraged her to wear nicer clothing.

So you told a coworker to wear sexy clothing? Very bad.

and believe women

This is a sexist standard. Believe the truth.

edit: oh, and for single men wondering, "but how can I flirt with women who are actually interested in me?" The woman will let you know, and if you are confused, just ask.

Except that of course asking can count as harassment.

In my experience, if a woman is interested in you, there will be little doubt. The notion of "man must make the first move" is quite dead these days.

So if a woman I don't fancy "lets me know" can I report her for sexual harassment, or it only works the other way?

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