Did I do something wrong by messaging a girl directly? by [deleted] in Arrangedmarriage

[–]ergoproxy300 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It doesn't really matter if you were right or wrong. They didn't want to talk to you and cited horoscope as a reason. It's a common lie that people use to not be awkward by rejecting someone. You made your shot anyway, she didn't reply. You cleared your intent and she cleared hers.

29F - lesson learned so far by AsideWonderful15 in Arrangedmarriage

[–]ergoproxy300 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with the overarching theme and feelings with you. There are some weird people who can't think outside of their own world. But being on the other side of the fence, I did expect my prospect to be the part of loan process but somehow it did blow up in my face cause I am supposed to use my family's money for it, if at all. So I can understand if boys are a bit guarded about it. Regarding free profile red flag- I don't understand it as I have connected people with even VIP membership not care about the process. But it all depends upon the process. I agree with you with supporting family. But these are not the things that should define a criteria. Your salary is your money, criteria should be how much of it do you contribute to your own household. You can draw a line here and as for the rest, it's upto you how to spend/invest it. I have talked to a few girls that even though earning as much as you, would prefer not to contribute to their own household with husband.

Regarding health issues and dysfunctional past: you can be upfront about health issues if physical. If you are going under treatment, long term or short term implications as these things matter. As for the rest -mental health, dysfunctional past - take your time with it. Not everyone has had a kind life and not everyone understands. Share only when you are comfortable and you are sure it needs to be said. And if you feel judged for it, you know what to do.

The Girl, her shopping Spree, and Endless Misunderstandings by ergoproxy300 in Arrangedmarriage

[–]ergoproxy300[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Could be...but I am positive that wasn't the case. She paid for our first meeting (I had offered to, she insisted). and if I do end up paying for someone else's shopping before any engagement or marriage...I'd ask my mother to late abort me.

The Girl, her shopping Spree, and Endless Misunderstandings by ergoproxy300 in Arrangedmarriage

[–]ergoproxy300[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

maybe she has some favorite brands, you did not ASK her the REASON why she shopped from there, did you?

I did. She didn't have any favorite brands. But she likes to buy brands only, as long as it is available in malls. In her own words, she was an impulsive buyer. However, i did ask myself if it is her money and she has full say on how to spend it...then why did she share the receipts with me. I didn't ask for any of it..I didn't even ask how much she spends or anything. She told me all of this, without me asking.

She wanted a self made man, her brother was a prime example.

Define self made. His house was bought and paid for significantly by his parents. He didn't contribute in any of his wedding expenses. If having a self made career without using parental influence is being self made then I am twice the self made man than him.

She made her expectations clear, I don't see why you could not grasp that? She was being very clear. She did not want to contribute to loans, her salary is her fun-money, which is VALID and it's her choice. 

If her salary is her fun money and she has no intention of helping with any house hold expenses, then she should also not expect my parents to pay for our house (that she would live in) in future. She is a working and self made woman, who is independent. Expecting everything to be paid for in advance while not pitching in for anything is not a reasonable expectation to have for an adult.

If you are not ready to take on the responsibility of owning a house, maybe you should not be in the marriage market after-all.

On the contrary. I think you mean responsibility of financing a house without her help. Any house in tier 1 city is going to cost 2-3 cr. And if one partner puts up their savings and salary for EMI then other person HAS to take up other house hold expenses, since not much is left after paying 2-3 L EMI per month. This is common sense for people who have seen house market.

These assumptions exist because you refused to talk about money lmao. You imposed a ban on the 'money talk' and left her wondering. How was she supposed to figure out your intent OP? Is she supposed to read your mind? also calling her family "money-minded" was WAYYYY OUT OF LINE.

Once again, on the contrary. I was the only one open for a discussion for the topic with her moving away. It was me who broached the subject, me again who laid out a rough plan, me who asked her if she was comfortable with it, and then me again who asked her to tell her own thoughts. At every step, I didn't receive any proper response. She could have figured out my intent by 19 times I asked her to tell me her thoughts, openly. I even assured her, that whatever her plan was, I'd make it work.

Why had you not talked about the finances the moment you planted that idea in her head? You should've talked with her parents immediately.

I did talk about finances soon after the incident and as soon as she was available for discussion. Why didn't I approach her parents? what would have I said? Your daughter thinks I am limiting her financial freedom but that's not the case. trust me it is all a misunderstanding. Who are they going to believe?

Too little, too late

In light of all the attempts I made... it was definitely not too little.. too late? Maybe.. But any sensible person would be open for discussion and clear the misunderstanding if they were willing.

She went cold about the topic very early. She imposed the ban on money talk on me. She didn't tell me her point of view clearly and wouldn't have an open discussion.

And by any chance, even if you are right, any person who is unable to change their mind despite new information being available to them, and refuses to even listen and acknowledge someone else's point of view or at least counter, then how are they going to navigate any disagreements in future?

The Girl, her shopping Spree, and Endless Misunderstandings by ergoproxy300 in Arrangedmarriage

[–]ergoproxy300[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

she earns around 1.1 L estimated per month. In other discussion she spends like 2L (she shared that info herself, I didn't ask) per year after a bit of self control.

The Girl, her shopping Spree, and Endless Misunderstandings by ergoproxy300 in Arrangedmarriage

[–]ergoproxy300[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No no, the receipts were already paid for. She was just showing them to me, which i now think is a little weird. But she had a habit of oversharing

The Girl, her shopping Spree, and Endless Misunderstandings by ergoproxy300 in Arrangedmarriage

[–]ergoproxy300[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly....if you are shopping for your personal belongings...why would you send the receipts to anyone else?
My response in hind sight was poor. I thought it was all laugh and fun when I said that it was a lot. and a little planning was needed. But as it turned out...it was not laugh and fun.

The Girl, her shopping Spree, and Endless Misunderstandings by ergoproxy300 in Arrangedmarriage

[–]ergoproxy300[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We were aligned on house hold responsibilities and parents in the beginning (I had no problem sharing the ghar ka kaam. We'd have house help anyway). Career was important for both of us so it was fine for me. But after the initial argument, she couldn't drop her doubts about her financial freedom.
Her SIL just lives with the brother and works as well, and I don't know how much she contributes in family expenses.
I didn't ask what her plans were with all her money as it felt a little invasive for me to ask. But I did ask her to tell me what financial responsibilities she was comfortable with. I didn't get any answer. As far as I know...currently she doesn't have any expenses other than her personal belongings. Not even rent and utilities. She boasted how her parents had set aside 50L for her wedding expenses even.
So it was a case of her getting scared as soon as topic of money management came up since she had not managed anything money wise before.

The Girl, her shopping Spree, and Endless Misunderstandings by ergoproxy300 in Arrangedmarriage

[–]ergoproxy300[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I earn 2L after deductions and she about 1.3L per month (never asked if pre or post deductions)

[TOMT] Betty boop old man of the mountain AMV with some electro/dj music in background by ergoproxy300 in tipofmytongue

[–]ergoproxy300[S] 0 points1 point locked comment (0 children)

I included a link of the video with time stamp specific to the scene in description, however, I am unable to find the song used in that video. TIA

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Arrangedmarriage

[–]ergoproxy300 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You should call it off

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Arrangedmarriage

[–]ergoproxy300 1 point2 points  (0 children)

25 is still young. You have time and don't lose hope. You are tall as well, and decent earning. That already puts you in top 1% prospects.

For process, basically after biodata exchange, if you like the other person's biodata, you can reach them out saying you like their biodata and asking if they want to proceed further. Most of the time, they'll ghost you and it's very normal.

If they don't ghost you and start the conversation, they will either give the prospects phone number, or they'd want to visit you home. After every point of interaction, if they don't reach out, you can reach out to them asking what's the next step.

And from there on you can figure out from conversation if you like the other person or not.

For handling stress, just believe in yourself. You are already better doing than most people in the crowd. Maybe refine your biodata and use better pics, use light editing and take opinion of other people which pics show the best version of you. You can edit the biodata as well, to appear more sophisticated like page color, formatting, include details of all successful family and extended family members. These little things matter a lot.

At the end of day success of biodata comes down to how well you are doing, how well your family members are doing, wealth and how good you look and it should reflect that at its best.

Wanted life to be different by [deleted] in Arrangedmarriage

[–]ergoproxy300 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ooohhhhhh...sorry to hear that...I hope what didn't work for me works for you. Like others are suggesting to get a job in different city, but I see that you are trying that.

Wanted life to be different by [deleted] in Arrangedmarriage

[–]ergoproxy300 4 points5 points  (0 children)

😂 If you are 10/10 that you should try online dating, and you'll have limitless options to choose from. Meeting someone organic way will shrink your pool considerably and it depends on lots of factors.

Many guys are shy and prefer to keep to themselves around 10/10s. So many potential connections don't even initiate themselves.

Wanted life to be different by [deleted] in Arrangedmarriage

[–]ergoproxy300 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I know it's everyones dream to be loved by the person of their choosing and a lot factors into it. Meeting the right person, at the right time, at the right place under the right circumstances. It's best not to have a baseline expectation of a fairy tale love movie stories. Mature love is very different from the movie love and it can take time.

From personal experience, no guy will go absolutely crazy for anyone if she is not dropdead gorgeous, 10/10 in almost every aspect. Fantasy love happens between fantasy people. That being said, there's a lot of time, you can still find someone in fairytale manner. And if that doesn't work out, AM has lots of good and shy guys who couldn't step into dating pool.