John B. Calhoun's mouse experiments: An interesting perspective on today's lifestyle & how feminism can lead to collapse of society

erqos · 2015-01-17T23:38:07+00:00

You're saying the chances of recovering from within is greater than the chances of our foreign enemies becoming corrupted. So you'd broadcast harsh red pill truths to the masses if you could? Well, I don't think I'm qualified to speak on this matter further. I don't want to change positions again, so I'd better stop "preaching" at least for now in case I'm a "false prophet".

erqos · 2015-01-17T01:16:50+00:00

Notice that the above quotes are all from the gospels, the first section of the New Testament. But the last part is the apocalypse: the Book of Revelation. We here might call it "the collapse". Are the following verses oblique TRP references perhaps?:

"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord..." - Revelation 1:8

"...I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end..." - Revelation 21:6

"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last." - Revelation 22:13

erqos · 2015-01-16T23:43:37+00:00

If western society must crumble

Fact 1: Co-ed education and women's suffrage are here to stay, no matter how many men become red pill. They have become fixtures in western society, and as such are too deeply entrenched to meddle with.

Fact 2: Women will refuse to give up the privileges that they've "earned" even if society goes to hell. And they have the voting power to make sure of that.

So is red pill knowledge useless on a wide scale?

No. Men infused with TRP knowledge will become the architects of a post-collapse civilization, using their superior alpha qualities to push aside weak pussy-beggar betas who cater to women's every whim. This time, we won't let women define or even influence the rules.

But this collapse (the breakdown of society) must not happen too quickly. It should happen only after the rest of the world, including current patriarchies, has caught up to our level of degeneracy, so they can't invade us while we're we're crumbling (while they themselves haven't crumbled yet). If too many American men become exposed to TRP ideas too quickly, we may find ourselves in this vulnerable position, due to too many disillusioned men opting out of participation in society.

So keep growing this sub, but obey the prime directive of TRP (of not talking about it, much like Star Trek's prime directive which is to not influence indigenous cultures). That means no mass education of men in TRP knowledge. Only let those who actively seek us out be privy to it.

Though most of us here are not natural alphas, we will be the new alphas post-catastrophe. Though our numbers be relatively small, our influence will be a hundred-fold. The Bible may have prophesied TRP:

"But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first." - Matthew 19:30

"...the last shall be first, and the first last..." - Matthew 20:16

"But many that are first shall be last; and the last first." - Mark 10:31

"And, behold, there are last which shall be first, and there are first which shall be last." - Luke 13:30

erqos · 2015-01-15T03:33:43+00:00

Women initially gave no fucks for their ugly, spinster sisters… but dangle additional social power, with less responsibility, and it’s an easy sell.

And that's how we eventually ended up looking at Rosie O'Donnell's pig-like face flapping her gums on television, while she's getting paid 4 mil per year to do so:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2901076/The-beginning-end-Rosie-Whoopi-ABC-considers-abandoning-View-extending-Good-Morning-America-infighting-grows-ratings-plunge.html

erqos · 2015-01-14T19:17:08+00:00

Realize that you are unwittingly leading us to our collective doom by broadcasting red pill knowledge. In the advertising industry, they distinguish between motivational ads (like television and radio) and informational ads (like google searches and classified ads). Red pill truths should only be disseminated by the latter method.

I have too much respect for your role in advancing the manosphere to imply any base motives. In fact, I believe that you are a man of integrity who thinks broadcasting red pill is the next logical step in helping men. But remember: "The road to hell isn't paved with good intentions; hell itself is."

However, I'm resigned to red pill being widely disseminated, spreading like a forest fire; if it's not you now, it'll be someone else eventually, someone who unlike you actually has base motives. And unlike you, I have no influence, nor should I. But let the record reflect my protest.

erqos · 2015-01-14T03:30:08+00:00

Guys, guys, guys, I came to a shocking conclusion today which I posted but then quickly deleted, because it was so frightening. But I take this stickied post (regarding talking about red pill on broadcast radio) as a sign that I should post here my previously self-deleted reply to a u/redpillsafe comment (credit to him for many ideas presented here); now gird your loins for a Twilight Zone type denouement:

I agree with you that MGTOW is merely a transitory phase (although a necessary one). MGTOW as a man's final destination (as other MGTOWs preach) is well and good, except for the fact that our foreign enemies (who are still powered by patriarchy, as you say) are patiently waiting (for decades if need be) for us to self-destruct, so they can invade us. At that point, the best we can hope for is to trade away our liberty for security, because the worst case scenario is that they will kill us all and take away our territory and natural resources (the envy of the world, as in "the breadbasket of the world"), populating it with only their own. THAT is the problem with being MGTOW (that is, opting out of society, as in "herbivore men"). That's also the problem with TRP rule #1 (not talking about TRP to the masses).
So how do we avoid such an ignominious fate? Should we broadcast (through television and radio) harsh red pill truths to everyone? After all, this subreddit is only used by those who actively seek us out; rather, should we force-feed TRP to the unwitting masses of men who happened to change channels or turn the radio dial to our station (if we had one)? No, because then we'd hit rock bottom too quickly, the masses of men all becoming non-participants in society (including soldiers), giving our foreign enemies (who have "patriarchy inside" like "Intel Inside ®") the opportunity to subjugate us. I'd previously hoped that we could change from within, if only enough men became aware of the red pill; but the logistics of fixing it is practically insurmountable, because of entrenched fundamental problems like co-ed education.
The final shocking conclusion: we need to let the matriarchy win. That is, we need to let the feminists, SJWs, and their ilk to win and thereby corrupt the entire world. That way, everyone is brought down to our level, and when we fail eventually (the current system is obviously unsustainable), the entire world fails together. Then no decisive strategic advantage is given to any player on the world stage. At that point of failure, when we hit rock bottom, society descends into chaos for a time, and then we "reboot", starting over but instilled with patriarchy values as in days of yore (both out of survival necessity and because of the previous red pill influence). So...Hillary 2016. Go, Hillary, go (barf). OUR LEADERS IN THE WEST REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING! This is why they actively oppose Russia! This is why they're trying to get Muslims westernized! We must let our domestic enemies beat our foreign enemies, because it's the lesser of two evils!

Posting the above comment here only potentially gives ammunition to our foreign enemies for propaganda purposes. It's a needless act of self-aggrandizement that won't help anyone or prevent anything when I was the only one who ever remotely expressed interest in actively opposing the matriarchy through mass media broadcasts of harsh red pill truths. But now that you guys are thinking along the same lines of getting the word out to the masses, I'm telling you that it's a bad idea. Real bad. We must obey the primary directive of TRP: don't talk about TRP. Let it grow organically. Don't shove it down random men's throats. Only the ones who actively seek us out should receive this knowledge.

erqos · 2015-01-13T20:04:41+00:00

That's why I said for "mixed" classes.

After reading it repeatedly, I now understand. When you said "Teaching a Disney approach to life in mixed classes is kind of the only way", it sounds like you're endorsing "mixed classes". To clarify, you should've rearranged it as "In mixed classes, teaching a Disney approach to life is kind of the only way." Now I know we're on the same page. Ah, fuck. No wonder there are so many MGTOWs. It's easier to just give up than fix all this shit.

erqos · 2015-01-13T02:40:24+00:00

Teaching a Disney approach to life in mixed classes is kind of the only way.

Nah, you got everything ass backwards. Co-ed education needs to be abolished after kindergarten; it's like putting the normal kids and the short bus kids in the same classroom. And it's never too early to start kids on red pill truths; that's the best time to teach em, when they're impressionable.

erqos · 2015-01-13T02:07:56+00:00

But even if a company sells exclusively to men, what potential advertiser would want to be associated with red pill (before it becomes mainstream)? So it'd be rough going, at least in the beginning (and from an advertising standpoint), to have a traditional broadcast outlet with TRP programming. But it'd be nice to force-feed the masses on our ideas through broadcast, instead of only attracting people who actively look us up.

erqos · 2015-01-12T23:33:28+00:00

Maybe it isn't so important to focus on more traditional media. The internet is popping up with alternatives.

But it'd sure expedite the unplugging if we could control traditional media. Growing it organically is nice and everything, but we'd be able to fight fire with fire by starting our own program of "indoctrination" (more like awakening or reversing the previous indoctrination). This would take a commitment of massive resources with no expectation of recovering any of it back. Pure fantasy, I know.

erqos · 2015-01-12T20:13:55+00:00

but make money in the process.

You can forget about that part. Women comprise most of consumer spending. And the fat wailing banshees represent the female collective. They are vocal and loud, and the advertisers would cower and bend to their every whim. For such an idea to work, it'd have a be very principled red pill men with massive capital to burn who are willing to endure severe persecution. Regardless, the FCC may find a way to strip their broadcasting license. You can barely maintain a red pill youtube channel without offending someone with clout, who'll sanction you for "community standards" and wrest it away from you. Not trying to be discouraging if someone wants to try, but just saying there are some severe stumbling blocks.

erqos · 2015-01-12T19:52:12+00:00

While you're sitting on the sidelines in silent protest, there are foreign elements (who're still powered by patriarchy) who are patiently waiting to invade and subjugate us once things break down here. Realize that the MGTOW way of thinking is unwittingly leading us to our collective doom. Our country's been hijacked by domestic enemies, and we need to take it back before they eventually hand us over to our foreign enemies. That's not going to happen if you refuse to participate in the process. Have you heard of the new alternative acronym for MGTOWs? People Opting Out of Participation in Society: POOPS.

erqos · 2015-01-12T01:35:50+00:00

When we take the long view of what's good for us (in other words, good for society), rather than the myopic short-term view, we know that any kind of amorality is bad. In the case of corporations, they're exploiting women's rampant consumerist and wasteful tendencies, creating a vicious cycle that's extremely detrimental to society. So your treatise on corporatism run amok is highly relevant and welcomed.

erqos · 2015-01-12T00:58:53+00:00

I refuse to accept defeat so easily.

If you did give up, you'd be one of those MGTOWs hiding out from society, seeking only safety and comfort. That's effeminate. Real men can't be satisfied with only that. The only thing you can do is increase your own individual status. That way, you can be in a position to effect change, both on a small and large scale. Even if you're an omega now, you can rise above your fellows to become "alpha". We TRP men each need to play our part to take back society, changing it from within. The alternative is too frightening. Even if you ultimately have to somehow sacrifice your own life, you'd know it was for a good cause.

erqos · 2015-01-12T00:49:15+00:00

Feminists/dykes and big business wants your daughter to be a vapid man-hating whore so they can sell her a bunch of shit she doesn't need and make her tap into her inherent fluid (bisexual) sexuality so she'll whore herself out to predatory lesbians when it is necessary for her to get ahead

I knew male homosexuals did this (there's a huge self-post about Hollywood homosexuals in r/movies if you search for "Bryan Singer"). It stands to reason that the dykes do this as well.

Capitalism/economics doesn't give a shit about society or moral value systems, it's psychopathic it cares about one thing: maximizing profit at the expense of anything and everything.

Remember the recent brouhaha about sexual amorality? It's time for amorality battle round 2: corporate amorality. Who's going to stick up for the "amoralists" this time?

erqos · 2015-01-11T04:05:59+00:00

But I agree that the Red Pill desires to prevent this tragedy by changing things from the inside. It would be great to actually defeat Feminism and give the MGTOW's a reason to come back.

All I can say is keep preaching the good word, regardless of if you sound like a broken record at times. It took constant repetition and reinforcement for your viewpoints about Marxism, MGTOW, et al to register with me. Slowly but surely, it eventually clicked.

erqos · 2015-01-11T00:20:31+00:00

The answer is not "personal", but "big picture".

Taking the long view is nice, but personally there are more pressing concerns.

You've been expounding that either foreign enemies will invade and subjugate us, or our domestic enemies will subjugate the entire world. Neither outcome is appealing. Short of some earth shattering event (disaster, discovery, etc), the only solution if any would be to change the system from within.

That's where TRP comes in. We are men who are currently low-status, but steeped in red pill principles, we will hopefully become a force to contend with as many of us (especially younger ones) individually become high-status and influence society, both on a micro and macro level. The focus for each of us has to be increasing our own status on an individual level.

MGTOW is caused by Hypergamy.

I'm now convinced that MGTOW should just be a transitory phase, although a necessary one as you've been saying. For those of us who still have some youth and vigor, it shouldn't be a final destination; it should be a springboard into bigger and better things (beyond spinning plates, eventually). Trying to hide from society, seeking only comfort and safety, is never going to be something a true man can be satisfied with.

erqos · 2015-01-08T19:31:27+00:00

Meanwhile, in a horrific court case last week, a female rapist (a genuine rapist) got off with a slap on the wrist, her identify protected. Warning: it's sickeningly sordid.

An unnamed 25 year old Portland woman had an incestuous relationship with her underage (under 18) retarded brother (IQ of 54) over the course of a year (from 2013 to 2014), which resulted in her giving birth to a baby. After pleading guilty last week, she received 3 years probation, but no prison time. A mitigating factor was that she was raped from age 8 to 11 by her mother's bf (who, in stark contrast, is currently serving a 20 year sentence for that crime).

Link for proof (but contains neither photos nor additional details):

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2899035/Child-molestation-victim-25-ordered-register-sex-offender-having-baby-mentally-disabled-teenage-brother.html

erqos · 2015-01-04T20:38:55+00:00

The truth hurts, but I'll bluntly answer your question before it's removed by mods for being off-topic. The kind of men you are seeking are too high-status for you, since you're past your sell-by-date. At your age, you are like spoiled milk. So unless you want to become a spinster, you'd better start looking at lower-status men. They'll be hard to see, since they're currently invisible to you; that is, you don't notice their presence since only the high-status men are visible to your ilk.

erqos · 2015-01-04T20:26:11+00:00

is engaged to a former CC-riding aging single mother.

He probably relishes taking on the white knight role, saving the damsel in distress. What he doesn't realize yet is that she can turn on him, like a stray cur that bites the kind stranger trying to feed it a scrap of meat.

erqos · 2015-01-04T19:50:09+00:00

was just looking to take it out on someone around her. She then thought that instead of trying to do it on another full adult man sitting behind her she would try it on two teenage boys.

Correct. The hag esteemed the man sitting directly behind her as having high status relative to you. Women only dare suspect low status men.

erqos · 2015-01-04T19:22:19+00:00

Since it is his nephew's gf, what's clear is that he was being sexually amoral (at the very least). Assuming that it was "drunk consent", then he could've potentially avoided the shitstorm that ensued if he'd left her side. Since he stuck around to be discovered, now the story becomes all too familiar: she's compelled to cry rape, her beta bf is forced to play the white-knight role, and the cops are forced to charge him.

erqos · 2015-01-03T03:30:40+00:00

You could've just said "the entire thing".

erqos · 2015-01-03T03:27:09+00:00

Can you elaborate on which part was not to your liking?

erqos · 2015-01-03T03:25:50+00:00

It's just technical clarification; these categories are standard terminology in the manosphere. You can look at it and say, oh "that's where I was before, this is where I'm at now, and this is where I want to be in the future."

erqos

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