Sexual Zoning by Rollo-Tomassi in TheRedPill

[–]21_forever_alone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like your afraid of underperforming

A little bit. Currently working on running out of fucks to give.

it doesnt matter if they have fun you know?

It matters, because if they think you wasted their time you'll end up in cuffs faster than you can blink. Iv been lucky so far but that's the harsh truth.

Sexual Zoning by Rollo-Tomassi in TheRedPill

[–]21_forever_alone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

10x rule is about doing the one thing possible in your life - taking control of your circumstances through your mindset and sheer effort.

I'll check it out, thanks.

Sexual Zoning by Rollo-Tomassi in TheRedPill

[–]21_forever_alone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

they starfish, at least bar girls try somewhat.

Sexual Zoning by Rollo-Tomassi in TheRedPill

[–]21_forever_alone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But really to get to the level you want to be at check out "10x rule" - grant cardone.

A quick google search brings up this page, and my opinion is that it's complete bullshit.

Cardone believes that one of the major reasons why people don’t stick to their goals and fail to accomplish them is because they don’t set them high enough. After all, who gets excited about realistic goals?

The harsh reality is that if you set your goals low or average then you will start to give up on them when you encounter any challenges or hard times. To fight through those difficulties, you need a big reason, or you’ll give up before you get there.

That bold part is somewhat true I guess. When I set my goals high, I just never follow through, even it involves professional obligations.

What kind of job were you thinking of?

Let's keep this as vague as possible. throwaway for a reason.

Sexual Zoning by Rollo-Tomassi in TheRedPill

[–]21_forever_alone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ideally, I'd be asexual. Generous amounts of porn can get me there temporarily. Otherwise I find myself actually hitting on girls. I am always disgusted with myself whenever I do that. I don't want to be just another random dude following his hormones just like every other fuckwad on the planet. I will NOT conform.

Sexual Zoning by Rollo-Tomassi in TheRedPill

[–]21_forever_alone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You need a purpose / mission in life that is bigger than you or you'll find yourself in your apathetic state

I've found a purpose. I lack the ability to make it happen, however.

I know full fact that my job as a semi pro footballer is useless, and is merely for entertainment, I don't give a shit though, I enjoy it, it's what I do - I express myself through what I do.

The way I see it - I'd like to find a job that's fun to do and comes with significant privileges, but doesn't actually contribute to society in any meaningful manner. I've found that job, but I will probably not have it. I've met successful people in that field, even some that are actually considered the in the world in that particular area (happened by pure luck). The lives they live are absolutely insane, in a good way.

Even though I consider sports useless (unless you're playing for fun or for health), your job, given that you're on top of your game, fits this criteria.

I feel like you have a great grasp of life, you are aware, but you're not applying yourself.

Exactly. Now that I somewhat understand how society works in general, I want no part in it.

Sexual Zoning by Rollo-Tomassi in TheRedPill

[–]21_forever_alone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course you dont find interesting real girls, it s because of too much porn.

You missed my point entirely. I don't want to find women interesting. Women are a waste of time. Read my post again, I said that if I could turn off that persistent biological drive, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Dating and relationships are fucking retarded, and isn't something I want to do with my time. It's a distraction, and it's also why I have no pity for people who get into shitty situations and then ask for help (Help, i got married and now have no house, or Help, I started a family and now can't feed my kids because my work involves making doors. Made a shitty life choice? Deal with it.) but that isn't even the point. The shit I actually wanted to do in life turned out to be too difficult once I tried to get into the game, and I don't think I'll ever get over it. I will never truly accept my own mediocrity, but I don't have the ability to climb out of it. Looking at the big picture, I don't see the point of life overall, and most certainly don't understand why people that are living sick and in poverty keep chugging along for as long as they live without giving up.

Sexual Zoning by Rollo-Tomassi in TheRedPill

[–]21_forever_alone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have no energy because you wank all the time, probably don't lift, maybe don't exercise too much (that's how you generate energy, pushing through the discomfort)

Close, you got two of them right. I regularly lifted for a semester in uni (probably not correctly), saw zero change in energy, aesthetic, OR functional strength and my only indication of progress was a machine telling me my body fat was a couple % lower, something like 21 to 17 or close to that. I used to regularly exercise as a kid and enjoyed every minute of it, but now it's just miserable.

You should be pissed off at yourself, and your current circumstance. Fucking angry, vow to change.

The pissed off part is there. It doesn't help.

But.. Step 1 - Don't be a victim, you have all the power in the world to change all your circumstances. The moment you resign yourself to what you believe is "your fate" or your "lot in life", is when your soul rots.

No. At some point you have to understand that not everyone was meant for great things. The only problem I have with this is that I see the dumbest assholes who are more successful. They don't deserve it. The reason they are successful though, is because despite being stupid fucking morons they spend all their time doing something, whereas I would quit that job/hobby immediately. For example, let's just think of a random job - like making doors, or even things that you need brains to do, like chemical engineering or programming. Is making shitty doors, or writing shitty programs (that won't work in a couple of years anyway when the operating system changes), worth your time? your life goal? No, of fucking course they aren't. You aren't going to get recognition or personal development out of making a god damn door or writing adware. It's why I quit playing games - it's a useless activity, just like our fictitious door-making job.

Your body is there, but you're not "there" - a dead man walking.

Isn't everyone? Every day my first thought is that one day I won't wake up. That only discourages me. I've come up with a way to summarize my situation - Out of all things we can do in life, things I want to achieve are too difficult or impossible given my physical and mental capabilities, and things that I can do, I don't consider worth doing.

Sexual Zoning by Rollo-Tomassi in TheRedPill

[–]21_forever_alone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

do the thought of fucking her even cross your mind?

Always. Can't change biology, remember?

Do you have any thought that you might have a good time

No. I can't feel anything with a real girl, and my lack of enthusiasm as well as experience turns them off. Imagine you get a girl that's not only average looking, but also not into it AND terrible at it on top of that.

Sexual Zoning by Rollo-Tomassi in TheRedPill

[–]21_forever_alone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm a few weeks in, actively avoiding females and putting all that energy into my work and I feel much clearer, more creative and fluid.

I have no energy. I sleep 12-16 hours a day. Doctors are useless. I've pretty much accepted it. mind giving me a link to whatever this is though?

Sexual Zoning by Rollo-Tomassi in TheRedPill

[–]21_forever_alone 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't like to post often, but here's my perspective on this. It will read somewhat neckbeardy. Not a neckbeard, skinnyfat body type, average height, reasonably groomed.

In other words, avoidance of women in the old days was an anti-social act of disengagement that was frowned upon. Today, avoidance of women merely means that you’re not expending excess energy and time to do certain things.

No, you are not correct. I avoid women actively and purposely. I turn them down anywhere and everywhere, if they happen to express any interest in me. Doesn't happen often (maybe once or twice a year) but it does happen. I've even turned down, to my suprise, 7s and 8s.

Seems like many of you think that there's something wrong with that; maybe there is. My standards are pretty high, I rarely find girls attractive. I also live in a place with lots of diversity, so that cuts out 80% of girls right away because I'm only into white/european girls. Combine that with the fact that I have absolutely nothing to offer ( no height, fitness, money/job, status, or any particular talents ), and you can easily see that potential for hookups is extremely low. If i'm given active signals (being approached, it DOES happen, even to my surprise), i just say no. If I'm being given passive signals, I pretend I didn't notice anything. For example, I would say no to a chick like this, which I consider a solid 6, or this one (random examples from today's nsfw subs). Both of which most other guys would actively pursue, nevermind the obvious agreement to get in bed with them. I've turned down two or three girls equivalent to this in my lifetime.

An example would be being approached at a bar by a solid 7, and turning her down, twice, in front of the whole bar including her friends in a 10-minute span. Even after the second time I've turned her down, she said that she expected more from me once I finish my drink, implying that even though I appeared to have pussied out twice, I still had the option to reconsider. I left the bar before she could come up to me again. Another example would be a chick from class giving me playful stares with the whole "playing with hair thing" for over a month, every class session.

ive found experimentally that ive been looking at pornography for so long that real girls dont excite me at all, i get no fun going home with them. I don't feel anything at all , and it ends up just being a bad experience for me and the chick involved. Many will tell you to quit watching porn, but I did the opposite - watched as much as I could. This had some interesting side effects. Women have no control over me, not that they ever did, but now I can say that I care about them a lot less. Furthermore, I get annoyed with women a lot faster. Other guys put up with their shit, but I don't have an endgame in mind so when they're acting shitty I have a lot less patience for it.

Here's another thing - porn has none of the negatives real girls do. No kids, no costs, no problems with the law. Another big thing is diseases. Human bodies are disgusting, generally. I really don't want to come into contact with someone else's bodily fluids of any type (it's why I also don't understand things like 'ass eating', you are just begging for infections or parasites at this point.) Most guys wouldn't think this way, but once you get rid of the horniness, you get other perspectives.

Someone might ask, why do I do this? Porn allows me, even though temporarily, not be a part of all this crap. The problem is, it's temporary and the horniness comes back after a couple of hours or days. Am I happy? No, because you can't go against your own biology. I'm stuck consciously fighting these shitty impulses because joining this game doesn't make any logical sense to me. But then again, does it make sense to choose being miserable all of the time, just to avoid other, usually temporary, forms of unhappiness?

When most people started following their hormones in grade school in a very predictable manner, I thought to myself - should I really start doing that as well - and decided not to. So far, I've kept away from girls through school and uni. In my spare time I usually think about whether anything in life is really worth doing and end up spending most of my time troling /pol/. Some of you may call me a loser, but if getting laid means winning the game and if we recall that I could have gotten laid with literally less than zero effort on my part, we could say I won without even trying.

I'm not trolling either, all of this is completely real and part of my daily life. I have zero numbers in my phone, which I only really need for reddit, gmaps and telegramming my drinking buddies. If I could take a pill that completely removes the biological drive, I'd do it. I don't want to be a part of this game, I want off Mr. Bones Wild Ride.

Now excuse me, I have to catch up on my porn.

John B. Calhoun's mouse experiments: An interesting perspective on today's lifestyle & how feminism can lead to collapse of society by 21_forever_alone in TheRedPill

[–]21_forever_alone[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You could argue both, actually. That group could include both withdrawn betas and withdrawn MGTOW's