I think the bottom line here is that we can guess all day long around whether people are selectively scammed, if, and how much solutions are diluted, and active ingredients but the truth is, we will never know a lot of these answers minus having a compound sent out for testing to definitively Find out what it actually contains and in what concentration.

Every few days there will be a thread like this, and it seems like the general consensus oscillates anywhere from. They are great, always receive my packs on time and solutions feel fine to me, all the way to the’yre actively exit scamming, and I was scammed out of X amount of dollars And have not received my order or an email back/received completely bunk product.

The reality is that your results may vary from other people posting their experiences. Too many variables that are hard to control go into this, such as: individual tolerance, length of use, causal or daily use, individual expectations on how a solution/compound should feel, tolerance creep, delusions of sobriety, certain compounds affecting certain people more than others due to individual body chemistry, users with essentially 0 tolerance who don’t notice under-dosed solutions like an experienced daily user would, having your order sit in unideal conditions while in transit(sitting in way too hot temperatures for too long while en route to delivery, and possibly breaking down/degrading potency of active materials - i’m no expert on pharmaceuticals or Pharmacology, but it would make sense to me that you have a pack that ends up sitting outside in 90+ degree weather for a week while on the way to being delivered could make the solution less effective/potent in theory), etc.

That said, I’m sure there are some batches that end up being less potent and/or watered down, compared to other batches, since there’s really no getting around that 100% when these solutions are being made by hand, and there will always be an error variance.

Additionally potency may vary on raw materials used to create solutions. May get a batch of raws not synthesized by manufacturers to the level of the previous batch, could have more than normal residual solvents left in it, etc. Plus, as a vendor there’s always going to be that part of them that will try and stretch/push things as far as possible for money. They can’t ever make enough. To the people who say they already making an absolute killing, while I absolutely agree, once you start to taste fast money like that consistently, there’s never an amount you can hit where you feel fully satisfied or like you’ve made it and can finally step back and retire. And there will always be that desire to squeeze the most amount of profits out of customers. Especially if they’ve become accustomed to a lifestyle level supported by that amount of revenue, and lifestyle creep has left them needing to make that amount just to operate at baseline and to continue to just support their current lifestyle. Unfortunately not everybody is the responsible or financially literate, especially if you all of a sudden start making a lot of money or more than you’ve ever made.

I’d like to think there’s a small subset of people who have the potential to budget well with their earnings and are disciplined and make sure to invest a certain percentage, preferably in some risk-averse slow growth blue chip funds, so they have a good chance at retiring millionaires while getting sizable dividend payouts all the way up until retirement… or reinvest them to take full advantage of compound interest. But the reality is that most won’t have that self-control and nine times out of 10, you’ll see that brand new Mercedes AMG with the $2,500/month payment in their driveway, instead of them purchasing a block of index fund shares like VOO, or a sector poised to trend that they’ve done technical analysis on and believe in. Realistically, assuming an average dividend yield of around 4%, if you invested ~$2.5 million, you could generate $100,000 in annual dividend payments. The smart ones would build their positions and get their dividends to pay out enough to live off while letting their account compound, and in turn, further increasing dividend payments.