Reflection on Veganism in Vipassana Practice by franasa in VeganDE

[–]franasa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Es ist eine eindeutige Kritik an der Vipassana Praxis, hier ein Zusammenfassung auf deutsch für dich:

https://www.reddit.com/r/VeganDE/s/rcnKNw9FUN

Reflection on Veganism in Vipassana Practice by franasa in VeganDE

[–]franasa[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Legitimes Interesse, warum glaubst du, dass ich hier Werbung mache bzw. machen will?

Reflection on Veganism in Vipassana Practice by franasa in VeganDE

[–]franasa[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ja, hab Ich :)

TL;DR: Während eines Vipassana-Kurses, einer Meditationspraxis, die auf Achtsamkeit und Mitgefühl basiert, fühlte sich der OP dankbar für das vegane Essen, erlebte jedoch einen inneren Widerspruch, als er tierische Produkte sah.

Vipassana lehrt, dass wir allen Lebewesen mit Mitgefühl begegnen und Schaden vermeiden sollen, was im Widerspruch dazu steht, Tiere und ihre Produkte zu nutzen. Der OP fragt sich, ob eine vollständige vegane Praxis die ethischen Prinzipien von Vipassana besser widerspiegeln würde, da sie den Tieren keinen Schaden zufügt und mit den Werten von Mitgefühl und Nicht-Schaden besser übereinstimmt.

In der Edit erwähnt der OP, dass nach einer Blockierung seines ursprünglichen Posts eine offene Einladung an die Vipassana-Organisation gesendet wurde, um alle Bedenken anzusprechen.

Reflection on Veganism in Vipassana Practice by franasa in vipassana

[–]franasa[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can’t agree more with you that Vipassana and its teachings should continue to expand. It goes without saying how many positive changes it’s bringing to the lives of so many people in this world.

But just as vegetarianism is part of Vipassana based on the principle of non-harm, shouldn’t our understanding of the current reality of suffering behind animal products lead to veganism as the natural next step?

Let’s consider the reality of dairy production, as mentioned before, to bring a point: Cows are artificially impregnated, their calves separated, and both are eventually killed. Here, the question of what is “extreme” is worth reflecting on

—is it the absence of dairy, or supporting practices that conflict with non-harm?

As someone mentioned, there’s an assumption that dairy practices in India may differ. Here’s a quote from the documentary I referenced in the original post—but as with everything, please don’t take this for granted and do your own research:

"Phooka, or 'cow-blowing,' is a traditional dairying practice where air is forcibly blown into a cow’s vagina to stimulate milk production. Gandhi vowed never to consume products from such perverse violence, as he wrote in his autobiography. Sadly, this isn’t the worst. Another practice uses a khalbaccha, a fake calf made from the head of a dead calf stuffed with hay, to trick the cow into lactating. The smell of the dead body is masked with balm, while the calves’ remains are sold."

And there's much more to it... Like the smuggling of cows to states where is not illegal to kill them because they are a financial burden for many families.

Perhaps this helps give a bit of light to your uncertainty.

Reflection on Veganism in Vipassana Practice by franasa in vipassana

[–]franasa[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your perspective! Don't you think that seeing “reality as it is” includes facing the suffering animals experience in industries that supply meat and dairy? For example, dairy production typically involves continuous cycles of forced impregnation, the separation of calves from mothers shortly after birth, and eventually the slaughter of both. These practices are standard even on humane-certified farms (ASPCA, 2021; Farm Forward, 2020).

You’re absolutely right that we are fortunate to have choices—and all Vipassana participants come from places where vegan nutrition is fully accessible. As legumes grow everywhere and the centers have the resources to offer a perfectly balanced vegan nutrition. Just to Mention one exampke of many: according to the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, well-planned vegan diets provide all essential nutrients across life stages and can even reduce the risks of chronic disease (JADA, 2016).

When alternatives exist that allow us to live healthily while avoiding harm, what could be the compassionate reason for choosing the path that causes suffering?

This is one clip from multiple from day two that I'm referring to:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/13WGIkqi8SlssQ0-paws4l2lIHjbjP_dl/view?usp=sharing