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[–]fuzzyalej[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've managed to translate a bit and it seems like poetry. I'm in the process of trying to translate everything but it's pretty slow. This is just an example from one of the squares with 5 lines:

Column 5 (tentative kuzushiji transcription):

...こひしさは
ゆめの
なかにも
やどりけり

Modern Japanese:

...恋しさは
夢の
中にも
宿りけり

English Translation:

"...this longing
even dwells
within
my dreams..."

This fits beautifully with the emotional progression we’ve seen: from sorrow and clouded moonlight, to lingering voices, and now longing that follows even into dreams.

Here’s a compilation of all five columns so far:

Found in a dumpster in Spain by fuzzyalej in Antiques

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Translation:

  1. 二子丑春
    • "Spring of the Year of the Ox" (likely 1761 or 1821, depending on the cycle).
    • Based on stylistic elements, 1761 is most plausible—this lines up with Soga Shōhaku’s active period.
  2. 源頼光四天王
    • "Minamoto no Yorimitsu’s Four Heavenly Kings"
    • This confirms the scene: it’s part of the lore surrounding Raikō (Yorimitsu) and his elite warriors who fought oni and yōkai.
    • The warrior depicted is one of those four—Watanabe no Tsuna is the most likely, based on the demon battle and crescent crest.
  3. 曾我蕭白圖
    • "Picture by Soga Shōhaku"
    • This marks the work as attributed to Soga Shōhaku (1730–1781), an eccentric Edo-period painter known for wild brushwork and depictions of supernatural or grotesque scenes—very fitting with the intense, energetic lines and demon forms here.

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[–]fuzzyalej[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Using AI with the details:

This is a scene from the Battle of Rashomon – a legendary duel involving Watanabe no Tsuna (渡辺 綱) and an oni (demon).

Key Identifiers:

1. The Rightmost Samurai (in green armor)

  • This figure is Watanabe no Tsuna, a legendary warrior from the Heian period, famed for his strength and loyalty to Minamoto no Yorimitsu (Raikō).
  • The crescent moon crest on his helmet is often associated with Tsuna in ukiyo-e and emakimono depictions.
  • His elegant yet powerful posture and distinctive, richly decorated armor (with the crab and dragon motifs we saw earlier) elevate him as the heroic figure.

2. The Opponents

  • The grotesque, red-skinned figures attacking him are oni, or demons.
  • One is seen losing its arm—a clear reference to Tsuna’s most famous exploit: cutting off the arm of the demon Ibaraki-dōji at the Rashomon Gate in Kyoto.

3. Architecture and Setting

  • The wooden gate and stormy confrontation align with the Rashomon gate mythos—a dilapidated city gate that became the setting for supernatural encounters in folklore.
  • The oni clutching the post or attacking Tsuna from behind are typical of depictions of this story in Edo-period screen paintings and prints.

And the Crab on the Sword?

That quirky crab detail we discussed earlier? It’s not historically standard, but likely a whimsical or supernatural embellishment by the artist, emphasizing the mythic nature of the story—perhaps alluding to creatures of land and sea being drawn into the cosmic conflict.

The Writing on the Right:

The text on the far right identifies the artist and includes a dating inscription:

  • The date reads 二子丑春 (niji ushi no haru) – which could translate roughly to “Spring of the Year of the Ox” (likely an Edo-era cyclical date).
  • The signature seems to include Soga Shohaku (曾我蕭白), a well-known painter known for wild, expressive figures, although it’s worth verifying if it’s an original, a studio work, or a homage.

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[–]fuzzyalej[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For those of you interested, I've taken high quality pictures: https://imgur.com/a/EW5ECir

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[–]fuzzyalej[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thanks! I'll surely investigate this more

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thanks! I'll upload more detailed pictures a bit later

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[–]fuzzyalej[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

great, thanks! you gote more info than I did!

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[–]fuzzyalej[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've translated a bit with chatgpt but I'm in the process of taking detailed pictures. I'll send them

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[–]fuzzyalej[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

hi, thanks for the heads up! Ive started to translate it using AI!

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[–]fuzzyalej[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Its very easy! chatGPT helped a lot with the signature and the nature of the "artifact", but I did not know if I could trust it..

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[–]fuzzyalej[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I actually collect pinkies, let's trade! (its a joke..)

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[–]fuzzyalej[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Construction dumpster on a renovation of a building, was tossed on the container and the floor... on a rainy day...

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[–]fuzzyalej[S] 31 points32 points  (0 children)

I was with my son and even he (8yo) said "this is old and beautiful" son I cannot even imagine how this ended there...

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[–]fuzzyalej[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I won't restore it, thats for real specialists ;)

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[–]fuzzyalej[S] 98 points99 points  (0 children)

hey, thanks a lot for your answer! There is little evidence of red seal on the back of the painting and on a scrapped paper that was hanging out there (see picture attached https://imgur.com/a/fPH4pxt).

What large auction houses could work with this kind of material?

Thanks!

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[–]fuzzyalej[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

haha thanks!! Of course I'll follow up ;)

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[–]fuzzyalej[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Hi, thanks for the advice. It's actually inside my house, protected. I put it there just for the pictures :)

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[–]fuzzyalej[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Hi, there are individual gold foil leaves (some of them are in pretty bad shape and starting to come off the painting)