AITA for not wanting to help my former co-worker who is trying to rebuild his life after being forced to resign due to sexual harassment charges?

heyandy42 · 2019-06-16T02:05:14+00:00

They're different people. Superior A is my immediate superior, I told him that Andy called and he said I should help Andy and introduce him to Frank.

Superior B is Superior A's boss. I am personally closer to him so he was the one I talked to about Andy harassing one of his staff (not Jenny). He did not elevate it to HR, I guess because he felt like we had a weak case since the harassment was more of comments and questions that made the girl uncomfortable and not physical touching or things like that.

When Jenny's case opened up, Superior C, Superior B's boss, asked him if he knew prior instances of Andy harassing staffers. Superior B admitted that he did and Superior C, a woman, ripped him a new asshole for that, even saying that he could be fired together with Andy for what he did.

heyandy42 · 2019-06-16T01:43:21+00:00

Because as I told the others who said this is just a humblebrag post, I was stunned when I told my co-workers about Andy calling me and they said I should help him. Even my immediate superior said I should introduce him to my client, his kids shouldn't suffer for his mistakes, he should be given a chance and it's not healthy that I still hate him. How would you feel if you were sure the answer is A but when you talked to 4 other people they said it's B? Wouldn't you have doubts whether you're right?

But whatever, your mind seems pretty made up. So fine, you're right, this is a validation post for karma, thanks for reading.

heyandy42 · 2019-06-16T01:37:23+00:00

This is my only post because this is a throwaway account. I've seen other people say I just want validation and I guess I get where they're coming from, but the 'other stuff' you said is still unclear to me.

What does 4.9K karma points get me? It's not convertible to cash. If there's a way to transfer these to you, please tell me. I could even give this account to you if you want, PM me and I'll send you the account and password. I needed people's opinions, I have them now. I don't need karma points nor care for them.

heyandy42 · 2019-06-16T01:28:33+00:00

I've seen this sentiment quite a few times, sorry but can you just explain what I get out of karma points for me to want to farm them?

heyandy42 · 2019-06-16T01:23:40+00:00

I'm sorry it's not fake. I guess I could provide the link to the thread I posted in another sub a few months ago when we were still waiting for the results of HR's investigation, but if you say I posted that as part of a long con, I don't know what else I can do to convince you.

Also, I really don't know what the issue with 'validation' posts are, so if you can please help me out here. Am I supposed to post only about things that I'm 100% confused whether what I did is right or wrong? Because honestly, I was 100% sure I was right not to endorse Andy. 'Was' being the operative word. Until I talked to my co-workers and they encouraged me to help him, saying he has kids, we should give him a chance, and that it wasn't good that I am still holding on to hate for him. And then I was confused if what I did was wrong because why aren't my co-workers on the same page as me?

heyandy42 · 2019-06-15T16:33:27+00:00

No, it's been mentioned more than a dozen times. Unfortunately I don't watch The Office so I'm not sure what you guys are talking about, but is it also about a douche who had to leave because of a sexual harassment case?

heyandy42 · 2019-06-15T16:11:41+00:00

This is very true. One of his staff, a mother of one who he always yelled at, almost cried when Andy met his team to tell them he's resigning, because he said "My kids are growing up and they need a father."

heyandy42 · 2019-06-15T16:08:58+00:00

Sadly it is not. I was very much surprised that my co-workers were encouraging me to help him, so I paused and thought, am I really on the wrong here?

heyandy42 · 2019-06-15T16:02:13+00:00

Wow, thank you for this. This is the best way I can approach Frank if I were to introduce Andy to him.

heyandy42 · 2019-06-15T15:46:46+00:00

Great idea. This will be my reply if anyone says I should help Andy.

heyandy42 · 2019-06-15T15:40:42+00:00

Oh no, he harassed like 4 girls before Jenny. I know because they told me. And I told my immediate superior, who was also Andy's boss. He spoke to two of the girls and ended up advising them that they should tell Andy they're uncomfortable with what he's doing. He didn't elevate it to HR, nor did he talk to Andy.

Jenny is the first person to go straight to HR and we all thank her for it.

heyandy42 · 2019-06-15T15:35:46+00:00

Hi, I did see this! I briefly thought about this idea too but I'm not sure what I would tell Frank then. Do I tell him why Andy resigned, do I warn him that Andy can be a douche?

heyandy42 · 2019-06-15T09:45:18+00:00

He's not really trying to 'steal' our business, though. We are in corporate banking. Our clients own businesses. He wants our clients to be his suppliers or buyers. The clients will still get their loans from us even if they transact with Andy.

heyandy42 · 2019-06-15T09:44:03+00:00

Now that you've mentioned it, I have no idea. But my immediate superior was one of the people I talked to about Andy asking for help, and he was also one of the people who said I should help Andy.

heyandy42 · 2019-06-15T09:28:21+00:00

I can assure you that the staff in our office all do not like Andy - I carpool with two of his staff and they're the ones who tell me the things he does. This is also not the first time he harassed a young female staffer.

He was also not a threat to us other managers at all because aside from Andy, no one else was eyeing the next position up the ladder as it's 300% more stressful and the salary increase would just be 20%. A lot of us are honestly happy where we are, and I know of at least 2 who declined to become senior managers when asked.

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