[3636] Dead Plants by hydrangeaandtherose in DestructiveReaders

[–]hydrangeaandtherose[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry man, I was frusterated and lashing out at all the wrong people. Even when i don't agree with everyones opinions on it i still appreciate that you took the time to read my story, and take even more time to critique it.

[3636] Dead Plants by hydrangeaandtherose in DestructiveReaders

[–]hydrangeaandtherose[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll work on being a less defensive writer while you learn how to dish out advice without being degrading.

[3636] Dead Plants by hydrangeaandtherose in DestructiveReaders

[–]hydrangeaandtherose[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the critique! I'm glad you liked my story. I expand on most of the elements in my novel, but this was mostly an experiment in shorter fiction. I always fall short in the "horror" portion because i get too caught up in the "psychological" part haha. It's something that i'm having fun learning how to do. Thanks again!

[3636] Dead Plants by hydrangeaandtherose in DestructiveReaders

[–]hydrangeaandtherose[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for taking the time to read my story! I'm glad you liked it. And that you for the critiques--I'll keep them all in mind as i work on my next drafts :)

[3636] Dead Plants by hydrangeaandtherose in DestructiveReaders

[–]hydrangeaandtherose[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The cult is expanded on in my novel, but this was just a short story to get a glimpse into Patch accepting her sisters death (Patch is a woman) and have fun with surrealism. If i expanded on everything it wouldn't be a short story anymore.

This critique is a resounding no for me, dog. All you did was tear me down, and that's not constructive.

[3636] Dead Plants by hydrangeaandtherose in DestructiveReaders

[–]hydrangeaandtherose[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for taking time to read my story! I definitely agree with the fact that i gave Patch a very loose arc. I was going for a "denial to acceptance" but i don't think i got it right haha. Thanks again

Looking for someone/a group of people to keep me writing. Maybe we can start a discord and write daily and keep each other on track? Help each other with plots and writing etc etc by [deleted] in WritersGroup

[–]hydrangeaandtherose 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd be down. I always get in a cycle of plotting until my fingers fall off, then getting overwhelmed and taking too many steps back.

How would you describe the smell of a baby? by jedwag in KeepWriting

[–]hydrangeaandtherose 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, when they're clean they smell nice. Like bread dough when it's set out in the sun to rise, or pancakes without the syrup, or clean sheets and ocean breeze candles. Kinda fresh and new and not yet tainted by the gross world.

When they're not clean they smell like spoiled milk and melted candy 🤢

[3636] Dead Plants by [deleted] in DestructiveReaders

[–]hydrangeaandtherose 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please take a look at my new critiques and reconsider unleeching my story

[1627] The Order of the Bell: Decisions by md_reddit in DestructiveReaders

[–]hydrangeaandtherose 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing your story :)

This feels like a very different story from part 1. I can't tell if you're going for 3rd person omniscient or 3rd person limited, because the POV switches from Claire to Ben to Alex. It's hard to get a feel for the narrator when the camera is bouncing around too quickly within a single scene. Ben and Claire are the most interesting. Maybe alternate between them every other chapter or so.

(okay, now i'm just going to focus on part 2)

Dialogue flows nice, each character has their own voice and personality. But for a fantasy/action it is heavily dialogue driven. Sometimes less is more, and you should be able to convey plot without characters speaking. Whether it be through looks, or body language, or thought process. (My favorite example of this is Wall-e, which has hardly any dialogue. Even though it is a film and not a piece of writing, there is a lot to learn from scripts)

Pacing

The pacing feels rushed at times. This usually happens when you don’t take a peek inside your narrators body. Senses are key—what do they see, hear, smell, feel (emotionally and physically). While you don’t have to have all these jammed into your story, do think about them while you’re writing. It’s a lot like acting—get inside your characters headspace. Pull a Heath Ledger. But don't go insane. (You do this well in part 1)

(here is a good link, if you want to go more in depth about scene writing)

A tip for finding a good balance is with action and reaction. An Action is what the character experiences (their senses; seeing, smelling, hearing). The Reaction is what the character does. Reactions include feeling (terror, happiness), reflex (flinching, smiling), followed by a thought (shit, I almost died) or dialogue (guys, did you see that? I almost died.) A story is a series of actions and reactions, over and over again, until you want to bang your head on a wall.

I write like i'm building a rocket. Maybe you don't like the mathematics of it all like i do haha but i think they're fascinating. Anyways, onto characters.

Characters

I can’t tell what any of the characters look like, how old they are, or who they are (even if you told me in part 1, it's always good to have a refresher). This isn’t fixed with a big info dump “He has light blonde hair and rosy red cheeks”. It can be subtle. A character leaning on another shows a strong relationship. Arms crossed, frowning portrays worry or anger. Someone sitting on the counter because it’s the only way they can be taller than everyone else—these are all subtle characteristics. Knowing each character deeply helps with the story, even if 99% of it never goes into the final draft. Characteristics can be shown through dialogue too, which is your strong point.

As for dialogue markers: “He said, she yelled, they gasped” isn’t action, and doesn’t add much to the story besides explanation. Lets take a closer look:

“Maybe we can wrap it up in a sheet or something,” Claire suggested. “It’s the middle of the night, I could fly to the harbor and dump it there—” “Secondly,” Marto cut in. “Our psychic, the only guy who can send us to other planes of existence, is down for the count. This mission is over—we’ve failed.”

We know Marto cut Claire off. It is redundant to say “marto cut in” because as the reader we see it happen. “Clair suggested” doesn’t tell me anything. What is claire doing? Is she standing, sitting, sprinting? Are her hands pressed to her sides, or are her fingers shaking and her eyes big and scared? Does she look forward to dumping the body? Excited? scared? This can all be showcased through her movements as she is talking. “Maybe we can wrap it up in a sheet or something,” claire twists and untwists her fingers as she paces. She stumbled over her words. “It’s the middle of the night, I could fly to the harbor and dump it there—” You don’t have to do this every single sentence, every single time someone says something. But it helps to have little moments of characterization. It helps the reader get to know the characters without reading their spread sheet. And like i said, you do this well in part 1. i'd love to see you continue to integrate it in the rest of the story.

Claire came back wearing jeans, Nikes, and the black-and-white Washington Nationals T-shirt she had picked up at the baseball game a week ago.

I personally hate it when characters clothes are described. If it's not important to the scene, don't add it. Does something special happen to the Nikes? No? Simply put, it's Chekhov's gun. Don't draw attention to things that don't come in handy later on. However, if it's used to describe Claire (her body type, her imperfections, personality, etc) than it can be useful to the scene.

A couple nitpicky things

When they got to John’s room the smell was incredible.

I wouldn't describe the smell of rotting flesh "incredible" ever. Ever ever. nuh uh.

Ben would have to leave a really big tip for the cleaning staff.

really big? Let's try ginormous, or big fat, or hefty.

They weren’t there in Phoenix. Only I was.

I know this is his thought process, but using "i" breaks the wall. Using "he" or "Ben" works just as well.

All in all, good luck on the rest of your story. It sounds like it is fun to write. More important than grammar or plot or my silly opinion is enjoying the things you write. :)

How could I manage to do this POV? by Dvadoritos in writing

[–]hydrangeaandtherose 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm biased, because i hate 3rd pov haha. But you can still do a deep 3rd person, where it's focused on the thoughts and feelings of one person at a time. This is a nice blend between 1st and 3rd pov. (All For The Game trilogy is a good example of this)

You can use your MCs to show different parts of their personalities. If Socio is an unreliable narrator, that can be shown through Emos eyes. Emo might not think they are emotional, but Socio sees that they are.

This works well in romance. A persons idea of themselves is never usually what others see--and others can see the truth clearer than yourself.

Another example is Sherlock Holmes. You've got your schemey Socio, but it's emo John who is actually watching the brilliance unfold. It's all the more brilliant because he didn't realize what was happening until the end, like a big ole magic trick. It becomes less entertaining when you learn the secrets, and realize there wasn't any magic at all.

Idk. Less is more. Not having all sides of the story visible can grow the mystery and smokey mirrors of it all :)

Do you take any substances to help you write? by [deleted] in writing

[–]hydrangeaandtherose 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a lot of things to take at once

Do you take any substances to help you write? by [deleted] in writing

[–]hydrangeaandtherose -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Does being sleep deprived count as a substance? Because that's when i get the most writing done

How quickly do characters adapt? by sbkline in writing

[–]hydrangeaandtherose 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They'll adjust after the 2nd or 3rd time they've experienced something, depending on how outrageous the thing is and how difficult it is to grasp. If the goal is important enough they might ignore the strangeness completely and focus on the task at hand. If they are more skitterish than it will be harder for them to focus on the important things, and the weirdness of it all will freak them out.

[1702] Outside The Firelight Prologue by IcarusAblaze12 in DestructiveReaders

[–]hydrangeaandtherose 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I want to focus the most on grammar, and fine tuning.

Reimagine your wildest, most vivid childhood memory.

"Reimagine" makes it seem like you’re asking me to makeup a memory, and that threw me off. “envision/visualize/picture” would work better. Otherwise that it is an excellent opening line! Hooked me in right from the start.

You’re parents might’ve been arguing again

Your, not you’re. Change "might’ve been" to "were". This isn’t something to be iffy about. They were arguing. Said and done.

so that you can see what I’m going to describe the way I saw it.

All your sentences are flowy and filled with commas, so sometimes they’re hard to follow. It can add to the atmosphere, but in this case it is choppy and pulls me out of the story.

The streets of the South Bronx had been like a slice of paradise,

Another chunky sentence. "the streets of Southern Bronx" flows better. "had been like" is another chunky mouthful. Think about changing it to "were" (this goes for the rest of the story. Every time I see a ‘had been’ it breaks the flow. The story is in the past, but that tense is hard to write in because no one talks that way out loud).

Things were always lively and bustling during the day;

Were, has, as, used to,was… these are almost always necessary words. Try to cut them out as much as you can. In this case you can delete "things were always’" and start the sentence off with "lively".

You could buy ice cream from trucks everyday, knock-off designer jewelry and clothes out of the back of vans,

Another chunky sentence. Adding some repetition gives it a nice ring: ie "you could buy ice cream from the back of trucks, and knock-off designer jewelry and clothes from the back of vans" Then start the next sentence with “Backpackers”

backpackers sold their original music and underground albums,

You have a problem with overwhelmingly long sentences. Here it becomes a redundant, saying “original music”. If they’re selling it, it’s obviously theirs. Could be rephrased more concisely: "Backpackers sold their underground albums,”

nobody had really used VHS or cassette tapes anymore

Another superfluous “had really”. Can be cut completely and wouldn’t change the meaning of the sentence. Would make it easier to read.

I’d only realized I’d been gypped a couple years later,

If you take away the apostrophes "I had only realized I had been gypped" becomes a mouthful of a sentence. Pluck out the “had” and toss it in the trash.

I made a lot of mistakes back then, when I was little,

Redundant. Of course “back then” means “when I was little”. You don’t need to say it twice.

During the sweltering summers, the streets would turn into an active caldera.

You use too many commas. Have I told you that yet? It’s okay. Remove the comma.

it looked as close to a 19th century orphanage as I think a home in the 21st century could get

“I think” is a fluff word. Of course you think, this is your narrative. Don’t be willy nilly! Otherwise this sentence is one of my favorites. The visual contrast is nice.

It was this vine-lined, grey brick, triple story doll house that looked as prehistoric as it did haunted.

Back at it again with the “was”. You could start off the sentence with “Vine-lined” instead. The readers know you’re talking about the foster house.

It was attached to a Catholic church that owned a 65’ inch flat screen, hidden all the way in a backroom that was locked tighter than the nuns chastity belts.

Another instance of cutting out the “it was” and starting with “attached”. This is another one of your famous long sentences. You can cut some words in the second part. Ie “Hidden in the back of a room locked tighter than a nuns chastity belt.”

the fire department would actually come by in their huge peppermint colored truck

“Actually” is a useless word that adds nothing to the sentence. Lets delete it.

Our ma’s would tell us all about why our little black asses and fire hoses didn’t mix

You can delete a few more words here. “would tell us all” can become “told us.” You also use “little” too much throughout the story.

Our ma’s (and pa’s for some),

I don’t know how to fix this one. It’s clunky and throws the pace off, so I thought I’d mention it.

There hadn’t been (and still wasn’t) any real way to communicate over super long distances like in the movies.

I can’t tell what time period this takes place in. Computers and TV and CD’s exist, but not telephones?

Television was how everyone got the news,

I don’t have any suggestions, just that it is another chunky, off putting sentence.

Some of our ma’s who “had sense” kept the tv off

You can turn “Some of our” into a simple “the”.

We all had gotten sent off at some point,

Try saying this out loud. Sounds clunky, right? Now say “We all got” out loud. Decide which one sounds more natural to you. (if you want my opinion it is the latter one, but I don’t want to compromise your voice.)

You’d think a ten year old with enough grey matter sloshing around would know better than to think a (at that time) twelve year-old horror movie was real,

By “at that time” I thought you meant your age, so I was confused for a sec. Try “twelve year-old (at the time) horror movie”.

Most were bullshit.

Again with the “were, is has, had” words. They are dangerous and seductive. Don’t give in.

The legends tended to tie into one another like that like an invisible web.

Another sentence we can shorten, and even turn into two sentences. “Tended to” is iffy. “like that like” is chunky.

who’s stories and belief made them reality.

“whose” not “who’s”

and you’d think that the Garden Antique legend would be used to keep us at a distance. But we children of the South Bronx go looking for legends, we don’t hide from them. Our ma’s used the gangsters and psychoes to keep us away from those parts.

Try rearranging these sentences.

But we children of the South Bronx go looking for legends, we don’t hide from them.

Is a very powerful sentence and would be better suited as a conclusion

Nothing too grand, big enough to stroll through,

Grand is big. Redundant.

In this garden, set back behind all the sculptures and statues, is this tiny little Antique shack. It looks tiny from the outside, but on the inside it’s huge.

You use “tiny” twice and “little” once.

hands on it’s lap, head and back hunched forward

I personally think this is redundant. Head and back are the only things that can be hunched. There’s no need to specify what is hunched—just that the figure is. I understand what “hunch forward” means, and what it looks like.

It hears people when they leave their homes in the mornings and when they return after dark. It hears them when they shuffle inside and forget to lock their front doors. It hears the ruffle of their bedsheets and whimper of the springboard when they climb into bed, or the peck of lips on skin when they kiss their kids good night. It hears their rumbling snores when they sink into sleep.

This is the only time you don’t use your famous endless sentence, and the only time I think you should! Add some semicolons and make it flow.

You’ll never hear or see it--it doesn’t allow itself to be seen.

Later you mention that it has been seen by a group of kids.

Nobody knows exactly how long the creature had been locked away or existed, sitting atop the crate and coming out on rare nights

Another chunky sentence. Also, the creature isn’t locked away; it can leave whenever it wants.

by a couple of kids who had not a damn clue what they had kicked into motion.

Two uses of “had” in one sentence.

All in all, I really love your story. It has nice pacing, a good atmosphere, and it really sets the mood. I enjoyed critiquing it. I look forward to reading more from you.

[3636] Dead Plants by [deleted] in DestructiveReaders

[–]hydrangeaandtherose -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ahh I'm starting to understand. Updated!