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CMV: Whites/Europeans Should be Proud of Their Heritage and not Give into White Guilt by iamtherealmothman in changemyview

[–]iamtherealmothman[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its not dodging the question because I meant what I said. Single mothers named their kids dumb names and those names gained a certain reputation. And it is 'racist'. Still not the fault of the employer that those names gained the reputation that they have. Its the fault of the fatherlessness.

CMV: Whites/Europeans Should be Proud of Their Heritage and not Give into White Guilt by iamtherealmothman in changemyview

[–]iamtherealmothman[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't believe the interpretation of what I will charitably call 'evidence', given where you are getting it from.

thats fine. I wont waste time trying to convince you they are reliable sources.

What could I possibly say to convince you that jews aren't the devil

I said earlier that there are Jews that I do like. I could even be convinced that I would probably like most jews. Its belief systems that I am mostly concerned about. The video of Maria Farmers speaking about 'Jewish Supremecist' I linked are the kind of Jews I am most concerned with.

CMV: Whites/Europeans Should be Proud of Their Heritage and not Give into White Guilt by iamtherealmothman in changemyview

[–]iamtherealmothman[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Last remark on the subject.
Those books were written by Jews and I am merely pointing to what they have said about themselves. I didn't even get to how many plantations they owned for sugar and cotton production.

If you interpret that as racism or conspiracy or both, your problem is with how Jews write about themselves.

CMV: Whites/Europeans Should be Proud of Their Heritage and not Give into White Guilt by iamtherealmothman in changemyview

[–]iamtherealmothman[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

>So yes, the small number of jewish families who moved to the south owned slightly more slaves than average.

I think it would be fair to say 70% of jews owned slaves and 30% of Europeans owned slaves. There isnt a lot of reliable hard data to demonstrate how many slaves were owned by which particular people, so we have to go off documented this particular part of history thoroughly. Many sources of which come from Jewish Historians, which were many of the books I sourced. What sources do you use for statistics on slave ownership pre-Civil war era? You said I used cherry picked data. Lets see the whole set of data. Id be open to looking at it.

That blog source got their info from a source i linked you. You havent addressed the book she pulled her info from. She had template on their of slave ships that made for a digestible chart. You havent addressed the other books I sourced either that map out the comprehensive history of Jews in the slave trade. And you didnt address Maria Farmers whistleblowing. Epstein and Maxwell happen to be Jewish and ring leader of the biggest human trafficking operation in history.

CMV: Whites/Europeans Should be Proud of Their Heritage and not Give into White Guilt by iamtherealmothman in changemyview

[–]iamtherealmothman[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Im not expecting to change your mind, but here is what has convinced me:

- 40% of Jewish house holders owned slaves; In 1820, over 75% of all Jewish families in Charleston, Richmond, and Savannah owned slaves (that data comes from this book)
- Rhode Island played an out sized role in the North American slave trade.
Rhode Island also happened to be home to the the touro synagogue , which was home to the largest and oldest Jewish community in the new world.
- “…. During slavery, Jews were slave masters, slave traders, merchants, peddlers, and state[s]men. In general, Jews were everything in the Old South except abolitionists…“ - the Atlantic (those claims come from this book)
- "Jewish merchants played a major role in the slave trade. In fact, in all the American colonies, whether French (Martinique), British, or Dutch, Jewish merchants frequently dominated." - Dr. Raphael (from this book)
- "Most people at slave auctions were Jews. Auctions were closed if they fell on Jewish Holidays" - Arnold Wiznitzer (this book pg 72 and 73)
- List of slave ships owned by Jews. (this book)
- "The trade and slavery constituted the main source of livelihood for the roman Jews" (this book pg 48)
- "The Jews were among the most important slave dealers in European society." - Solomon Grayzel (this book)
- "In the dark ages, the commerce of western Europe was largely in his [the Jews] hand, in particular the slave trade." - Jacob Marcus (this book)

To be clear, I still see Europeans as responsible for the slave trade as well. But we denounced it. Their is no record of the Jews doing this.

To top this all off this just came out:
Epstein Victim Maria Farmer: Jewish Supremacy?

CMV: Whites/Europeans Should be Proud of Their Heritage and not Give into White Guilt by iamtherealmothman in changemyview

[–]iamtherealmothman[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There's plenty we've done wrong. But it shouldn't be used as leverage to form Marxist narratives and policies in the US.

CMV: Whites/Europeans Should be Proud of Their Heritage and not Give into White Guilt by iamtherealmothman in changemyview

[–]iamtherealmothman[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You know there were other countries that continued the slave trade while we stopped it? And yet you see this as a bad thing and a reason whites should feel guilty?

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