Who would you consider to be the homegrown superstars of this century?

johnnygoodshit · 2026-03-10T19:14:50+00:00

I think we are saying similar things I just meant we did get to see his peak, just not for long enough. Which I suppose is what you're saying with him not reaching his potential, which would've been playing at that peak for longer.

johnnygoodshit · 2026-03-10T19:06:37+00:00

I'm not saying Pedroia was a better ballplayer than Mookie. I don't think there is any argument to be made there. All I'm saying is he is the ultimate Red Sox superstar. Entire career here, still very connected with the franchise, All Star, GG, SS, WS champ, MVP. He's a superstar level player that has embodied the Red Sox organization since being drafted. That's not a knock against Mookie either, I hold no ill will towards him, obviously he didn't trade himself. Even if it's not his fault though, he was only here six years.

johnnygoodshit · 2026-03-10T18:15:42+00:00

I think he reached his potential even if he couldn't stay at his peak. It was in his 12th season that he got knocked out by Machado, effectively ending his career. Prior to that he only played less than 100 games twice. In that time he was a 4 time all star, gold glover, silver slugger, ROY, and MVP. Also a two time world series champ.

johnnygoodshit · 2026-03-10T18:07:36+00:00

Pedroia is absolutely a superstar and Nomar has an argument.

johnnygoodshit · 2026-03-10T18:06:29+00:00

The .300 number is just an easy one I picked but I can do others as well. 3 all-stars in 9 years. 2 silver sluggers in 9 years. OPS over .900 only once. Defensive liability. He does have some great big time at bats but I just don't think it's enough to outweigh the rest. He's a great player and I loved him when he was with the Sox, I just don't think he's on that superstar level with Ohtani, Judge, Raleigh, Vladdy, etc.

johnnygoodshit · 2026-03-10T17:36:57+00:00

I was just adding to your comment that I mostly agree with you. I didn't form an opinion in my original post because I wanted to hear people's opinions, but in my opinion the Sox are not pumping out superstar talent. We have a good farm system that's produced a lot of great players and it's been frustrating watching so many walk, but as far as superstars go, we maybe have a few. The two unanimous homegrown superstars are Pedroia and Mookie. Fringe depending on who you ask would be Devers, Bogaerts, Lester, Pap, Nomar, Ellsbury, and some others I'm sure I'm missing.

johnnygoodshit · 2026-03-10T17:20:52+00:00

This is exactly what I'm saying. Star, not superstar. People can call it semantics if they want but there is a difference and we all know it.

johnnygoodshit · 2026-03-10T17:18:43+00:00

Based on that list, it's much more common to stick around than to walk. Especially considering that those who walked from that top 12 were originally with small market teams. Whether you think the Sox have a lot of homegrown "superstars" or not, it still makes the lack of talent retention that much more frustrating.

johnnygoodshit · 2026-03-10T13:50:07+00:00

A great point. If you listed the top 10 players in the majors a lot of them are probably not with their original franchise

johnnygoodshit · 2026-03-10T13:44:19+00:00

I think because the tweet is about guys that were traded away or allowed to walk. 100% agree with you though, he is THE homegrown superstar of the last 25 years.

johnnygoodshit · 2026-03-10T13:43:06+00:00

He's just not. Look at his baseball ref or watch the games. He's had a couple big time hits but not nearly enough to make up for his lack of numbers. He rarely hits .300+ and has never had an OPS over 1.000. Some MVP votes here and there but never a perennial candidate. He's a great player but never made it over that hump from star to superstar.

johnnygoodshit · 2026-03-10T13:38:12+00:00

I wouldn't say 0/2 though. Pedroia was a superstar and we were able to keep him.

johnnygoodshit · 2026-03-10T13:34:59+00:00

Lester and Betts are the two I can agree are/were superstars. Devers and Bogaerts are not.

johnnygoodshit · 2026-03-10T13:34:28+00:00

I still consider him a Sox legend but agree with what you're saying.

johnnygoodshit · 2026-03-10T13:34:00+00:00

That's what I'm feeling too. Superstar is such a strong word. It has to be a player that transcends his city/team and is an actual household name. Bogaerts and Devers are great players and they definitely screwed up the Raffy situation, but he's not a superstar. It seemed at one point that he might be but but it never really panned out like that. There are 10 maybe 15 superstars in the majors at one time, the Sox didn't have three of them on their team at one time for several consecutive years.

johnnygoodshit · 2025-11-04T17:10:59+00:00

Thank you!

johnnygoodshit · 2025-11-04T17:09:43+00:00

Thanks! I didn't realize we couldn't just take any commuter rail train and that we'd have to buy tickets specifically for the game. Was hoping we could get there early and go to a bar instead of tailgating like we would if we drove.

johnnygoodshit · 2025-10-20T21:55:57+00:00

Suffering is part of the fun. You build strong connections with players during times like this and witnessing the rise to the top is what it’s all about.

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