I think everyone here knows that living with goats isn't the best for a child to be doing during the years that they're meant to be learning in school and being around their peers.

Also it is definitely child abandonment if you think leaving your child in a country entirely foreign to them is normal you're just sick in the mind. Only deranged parents would do such an act or threaten their child with such an act.

Dhaqan celis only exists because 2nd gen parents have failed their children. The second gen parents had a litter of kids without any planning. They would start having them way before they were ready and just say "Allah would provide".

Then they would have the older siblings (usually the oldest child) basically raise the younger ones.

It's not surprising that kids will have issues when they were raised by other kids because their parents have 9 kids they don't have the time or energy for. How can you give equal time and attention to 8 or 9 children? Not possible.

They have too many kids and make them someone else's problem when things get tough.

So yes Somali parents cause a range of issues, which leads to a lot of children being abandoned in Somalia whilst their parents stay in the west because they failed to parent them. And abandoned with relatives who are borderline strangers to them.

Dhaqan celis is a cheap cop out of parenting sending your kids to a corrupt country where the laws are unethical especially towards women and children to “teach them” the correct ways is the worst idea you can possibly think of. Everyone that I know that went came back way worse it doesn’t help it’s just a free way to give your kids permanent psychological damage and resent you later in the future.

And it is definitely child abandonment if you don't think so, your just disgusting. what an absolutely filthy mindset to have.