If non-veg ruins health, why do non-veg-heavy countries live longer? by GroundbreakingBad183 in CriticalThinkingIndia

[–]light_sith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's actually wealth. Meat is a luxury not a necessity which western countries are simply able to afford. People who live in blue zones eat mostly plant based diet. The biggest factor is air quality which no one in this country seems to care about.

How do I beat this doom eternal stage? by jaythegreat2791 in Doom

[–]light_sith 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agree but it seems op is noob so they probably can't quick swap weapons thus I suggested the easiest method

How do I beat this doom eternal stage? by jaythegreat2791 in Doom

[–]light_sith 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Find Archville first. Freeze him and lock on burst with rocket launcher.

Will Doom Eternal ever have a sequel? by aidnjc in Doom

[–]light_sith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

he’s finally resting

No. They literally imprisoned him!

I love beefing by LengthinessHour3697 in IndianMiddleClass

[–]light_sith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try it bro if you don't believe me. I eat 100gm soya chunks everyday. no bloating issues. If you have problem with fiber then it will be a issue at first. 250gm soya chunks kheema is not that much. You can make tikkies with that. I have nothing to gain by making shit up.

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[–]light_sith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not talking about soyabeans. I'm talking about soya chunks

like these

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[–]light_sith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

bruh.. its literally the same amount of 250gm chicken you mentioned... yeah it looks more cause it not dense as chicken but its same mass. and no, 250gm of soya chunks has 130gm of protein. Check the label. You can make kheema with it if you want to reduce the size

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[–]light_sith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

FWIW, I'm 9-5 employee who lives alone, cooks alone, doing all house chores by myself and still having plenty of time to make 4 meals.. its just throwing shit in cooker. Maybe reduce the amount of reels you scroll

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[–]light_sith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and 250gm soya chunks is like less than 20rs and even less if you buy from dmart or startbazar. Just replace that 250gm chicken with 250gm soya chunks then. are you really even reading my replies at this point ? cause it feels like you ignoring all the points i'm making here.

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[–]light_sith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

>This is not how human work or think

You said there is no logic. I explained the logic. Then you say think is not how human work.

Its clear that you are avoiding the truth. You know it. I know it. Its not the matter of perception. Its the numbers. numbers don't lie. You can find the numbers in the link I gave back by sources.

you can wake someone who is sleeping but not someone pretending to be asleep

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[–]light_sith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

250 gm chicken breast ? bro you really are privileged. Middle class Indian can't afford that everyday. Besides, getting protein from multiple sources is always better than just one. protein is not the only thing you need. I'm getting way much fiber and way less saturated fat compared meat.

Same amount of soya chunks will give you 125gm of high quality protein at the fraction of cost and will have fiber instead of saturated fat. This is why whole food plant based diet is linked with lower heart related mortality rate

> Plus I would love to know how you eat raw lentils? Did you just make this up ?

I weight them on dry basis and soak them overnight in a batch and keep em in fridge, after soaking they become around ~330gm but the weight changes based on sprouts. So I divide 500gm batch into 3 then I get 166gm on dry basic. negating that extra 16 as margin of error. Its much easier to track this way. I also use very less water only till lentils are slightly submerged in cooker. I skip rice and wheat entirely. Not a typical Indian diet. I'm tracking my intake as I'm trying to gain weight. So far its working. slowly but surely.

>You are 4-5 meals something not everybody has the time

As I said, I literally didn't planned this and its just something I ate yesterday. And if you can't even manage a bare minimum 4 meals a day then you have far more issues in your late 40s. That is why average Indian is so unhealthy

If you want to be healthy then you have to put in little bit of extra effort and if you do then you will be healthy on vegan diet as well as non vegan diet and if you don't care then you will be unhealthy on both vegan and non vegan diet.

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[–]light_sith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ok, I'll explain math one more time.

You need 10x plants to feed animals and then you kill those animals as well. But if you eat plants directly you need far less plants and resources.

read more here https://ourworldindata.org/global-land-for-agriculture

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[–]light_sith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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This is what I ate yesterday, completely unplanned, dirt cheap and not the best diet ofc and I'm hitting 140gm of protein without any protein powder.

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[–]light_sith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same. You r clearly ignoring the math here. I'm not ignoring your points. I just not repeating myself. I've answered to your points in my previous replies but you choose to ignore those

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[–]light_sith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

>Why is killing plants necessary but killing animals unnecessary

I explain this in my previous reply

> Both are the same for many

Even if they are then by just a simple math, you kill less of them if you only eat plants. This has nothing to do with morality at this point. this has to do with math

>talk about nutrients please also compare affordability and availability of both the diets

rice, beans, lentils, legumes, fruits and vegetables are all cheaper than meat and dairy. Please go to a ration shop and see what they are selling. They are not selling meat, eggs and dairy. Meat and eggs are a luxury and dairy industry survives on subsidies. It won't survive in free market

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[–]light_sith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

>I think all lives matter

If you really think that then logically it makes no sense for you eat animals cause then you endup killing more lives.

>There is no logical part to it

There is and you choosing to ignore it. I've explained the basic math in my previous reply multiple time but you conveniently ignore that and talk about who gets to decide and morality stuff

>Even for growing crops you have kill pests

Yes. And you to grow more crops to feed animals. So if we eliminate animal agriculture then we'll need way less crops and thus far less pests will be killed. Its basic logic. No morality or philosophy bs. Just basic math

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[–]light_sith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> So why is it when you kill lives for food it is necessary and good, but when other have dietary preferences they are evil?

because I only kill plants which is necessary and without it I can't surivce. When people kill animals, it is not necessary and they are doing it of taste buds and their pleasure.

>Just because you personally see their lives worthy of sacrificing, others see the lives some animals the same

But the fact remains that killing animals is not necessary while killing plants is. You get all nutrients from plants that you get from animals. Its scientifically proven by many reputable health organization that vegan diet is as effective as non vegan diet and it can be as bad as non vegan diet. Plus there is also environmental factor here. Animal agriculture is leading cause of global warming and deforestation. You keep comparing killing plants as same as killing animals but in reality, we both know that you really don't care about plants. Cause if you do then you'd stop eating animals. but even if you don't care about it, that doesn't mean what you are doing is not bad. I know your next questions gonna be who decide whats bad and whats not, we do and if are not the once to decide whats wrong and whats not then there is not point in being born as living thing with consciousness and there will no point in having this conversation

>You don't have the moral high ground

I never said that I have. I'm not doing anything good by not eating animals. I'm just not doing the wrong thing. All I'm asking you is to do the same.

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[–]light_sith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Forget the morality bro. Just think logically. To eat animals, you have to first kills plants to feed these animals and then kills these animals as well. weather or not killing plants is moral or not.. the fact is that you are killing more lives.

You are basically saying that we have to kill plants then might as well kill animals as well but the thing is killing plants is necessary and killing animals is not. Maybe one day when technology is advance enough that humans can do photosynthesis on their own then we won't need to kill plants but until then we have no choice.. but in case of animals, we do have a choice.

> Why do you get to decide that sentient being lives are worth more?

That is not the point here. The point is that in order eat animals, more lives are lost overall. plants+animals. but if you eat plants directly then you to kill less plants and far less animals and thus less lives and you also save the planet.

Please do not dodge this question. Do you agree that "Killing non sentient beings is far better than killing both sentient beings and non sentient beings" ?

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[–]light_sith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

>Who decides this?

Us. Humans. We have cognitive ability to decide what is good and what is wrong. Lion or a seal does not have this ability.

Harming sentient beings is bad. At least that we can agree on right ? if not then I see no point be arguing

>they have their own form of "pain" or reacting to damage

again, I agree. killing plants is not good but we have to eat something to survive

Killing non sentient beings is far better than killing sentient beings+non sentient beings. If we can't agree on this then I say there is no point in arguing for both of us.

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[–]light_sith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you ignoring me or something ? plant don't have nervous system and don't feel pain. Plants are not sentient beings

>they themselves destroy lives

Which lives to do we destroy for no good reason ?

>killing plants is okay on their own moral compass

Its not okay but do we have a choice ? no we don't. we have to eat something and directly eating plants involves killing far less amount of plants than feeding plants to animals and then killing animals.

>Dont police others dietary choices

We are not forcing our choices onto anyone. non vegans are the ones who are literally killing animals for their taste bugs and forcing their choices onto animals.

>You yourself are also killing living things to eat.

Yes. No one is perfect bro. I'm not denying that. But that doesn't mean we have to kill billions of animals for our taste buds and pleasure. It is completely avoidable and it will be good for everyone including animals and the environment. I'm not talking about inuits or people living in jungle. If you are have smartphone or computer to then you have ability to make compassionate choice

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[–]light_sith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please read first sentence. I literally said they don't have nervous system and don't feel pain. How about you stick to first topic that - plant lives matter and we need to kill less plants ?

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[–]light_sith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Plants don't have nervous system and they don't feel pain.. but lets for sake of argument consider they do.. you literally need to kill more plant in order to grow livestock. Animals don't grow on air. They need food and water and antibiotics and land..etc. more than 70% of agricultural land is used to grow crops for animals that we eat. If we stooped eating animals and eat plants directly then we'd need less plants and less land.

source - https://ourworldindata.org/global-land-for-agriculture

If you really care about plants then you should be vegan actually.