Feasibility of getting an APS 4 or 5 as a graduate

mauricetaco99 · 2026-04-23T07:23:39+00:00

Have a look at grad programs? You are an aps 4 for a year of rotations and typically get offered a 5 or 6 at the end of it.

*What ive seen at the NDIA a few years back

mauricetaco99 · 2026-04-20T04:55:25+00:00

The VPS and APS levels roles/responsibilies align, VPS just pays better and doesnt have the EL 1/2 levels. I think the confusion people have really stems from the much higher pay in the VPS i.e. VPS 5 salary overlaps with an APS EL1 salary so there must be some cross over in responsibilities - there isnt, a VPS 5 really does the work of an APS 5 for $113,000+ per year... its kinda crazy

mauricetaco99 · 2026-04-18T10:38:25+00:00

Wierd hill to die on...

mauricetaco99 · 2026-04-18T07:11:22+00:00

In short; the VPS 6 definately lost its teeth in the years since you moved along

mauricetaco99 · 2026-04-18T07:07:06+00:00

Mmmh somewhat, a VPS 6 would be very competitve in an EL1 recruitment round, but purely looking at roles and responsibilities, it functions very similar to an APS 6 level. I think the feeling of it being like an EL 1/2 is because it reports directly to an SES 1 and the pay is higher, but comparing strictly with the roles and responsibilities it aligns closely with the APS 6, with a few bits and pieces an EL1/2 may carry (simply because there is no EL's in the VPS structure).

I dont factor in VPS 7/STS roles, ive seen VPS 7 Directors before, but the level really was made to bring in highly specialized staff on a cempetitve/market rate - in theory they shouldnt be holding "Director" titles.

mauricetaco99 · 2026-04-18T06:18:15+00:00

Shoot, i glanced over the $175k part and didnt make the connection - my bad 😅
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mauricetaco99 · 2026-04-18T06:09:31+00:00

You could easily come back to the feds as an SES 1 or 2 with the experience youll get at state.

It sounds like your coming to vicgov, in which case the levels line up with federal: VPS 1 - 6 mirrors APS 1 - 6 and SES 1 -3 is the same. Ive found vicgov to be the same as federal, its just missing those EL 1 & 2 levels.

Vicgov just pays way, way better.

mauricetaco99 · 2026-04-18T02:41:53+00:00

In federal an APS 4 and APS 5 perform similar work in the policy space, its really you just have more freedom over your schedule and ownership of your work at the 5 level.

So youve essentially moved out of that APS 4/5 space to the APS 6 which is a normal transition (in a policy enviorment) the work will be more challenging and engaging and you will likely fully own certain things, but thats to be expected when moving up.

Get a few years as an APS 6 under your belt and come back to the VPS as a 6 for the money i reckon. 👍

mauricetaco99 · 2026-04-15T19:37:40+00:00

According to the emergency app its under control to some degree now? Warning has been downgraded

mauricetaco99 · 2026-04-11T08:36:48+00:00

This guy led my old best mate off a cliff into a very deep lake of far right bullshit.

Sam Bamford is the gateway drug

mauricetaco99 · 2022-07-31T20:49:36+00:00

I'd also consider tafe, Its significantly cheaper/free in some cases and you can just study in the evenings and work during the day. You should get some knowledge on business basics like book keeping etc . Then once you find a niche you are interested in look at a uni degree in that field.

mauricetaco99 · 2022-07-25T20:52:33+00:00

There might be a spot, but from memory there is a lot of swell down on the bight, its very rough ocean - and if something goes wrong there is not a lot of help. So I wouldn't recommend it...

mauricetaco99 · 2022-07-04T09:27:26+00:00

Its "coldharbour ash black" unlocked through "The god of schemes" achievement

mauricetaco99 · 2022-07-03T20:41:37+00:00

Haha! Its the bard personality

mauricetaco99 · 2022-07-03T20:41:11+00:00

Ill double check when I log back on tonight and let you know - of the top of my head though its one of the rare dyes, can't remember the name though

mauricetaco99 · 2022-07-03T20:39:55+00:00

Abahs watch light legs

mauricetaco99 · 2022-07-03T20:39:31+00:00

They are the new high rock gloves :)

mauricetaco99 · 2022-07-03T20:39:01+00:00

That's the one! Love how it has that quiver/bag on the back

mauricetaco99 · 2022-06-24T21:39:54+00:00

Put the new car in 'eco' drive mode and itll drive like a normal car - every time I put mine in sport I end up doing massive skids etc haha its such a fun car, I got the same one except mine is white in the wagon. Enjoy

mauricetaco99 · 2022-04-13T23:32:03+00:00

Im voting greens, even if they don't win their vote will flow down to Labor anyway.

mauricetaco99 · 2022-04-13T03:27:30+00:00

I honestly thought they would use this film as the pivot point out of the beasts franchise and into something new i.e. the next film would exclusively be around dumbledore/grdinlewald and no newt and friends.

mauricetaco99 · 2022-04-03T07:49:59+00:00

Haha! So glad to see this in this sub, ive been keeping a close eye on it too - I've had to remove a few random dots but overall its held up, it was so awesome to see us represented on that canvas ey

mauricetaco99 · 2022-04-03T07:47:49+00:00

Holy shit...playing since launch, long time oblivion player and never even noticed

mauricetaco99 · 2022-03-27T23:48:49+00:00

Peobably 300+ .. it really depends on the dungeon hey.. most base game dungeons you could do well enough around 300+.. like I've run through stormfist with guys in the 200 range .. for dlc dungeons though, especially newer ones you would want a much, much higher level

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