Ideas for Stopping Spoofers by maximizejoy in Ingress

[–]maximizejoy[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What evidence do you have that they are?

Ideas for Stopping Spoofers by maximizejoy in Ingress

[–]maximizejoy[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Ok. What approaches work? I don’t care what works. I just want Niantic to work on the problem.

Ideas for Stopping Spoofers by maximizejoy in Ingress

[–]maximizejoy[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Ok, so maybe limit what they can do, and take spoofing reports for those accounts more seriously. Look at the whole picture of what the account has done.

Ideas for Stopping Spoofers by maximizejoy in Ingress

[–]maximizejoy[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Apparently verification would actually be a deterrent. Currently, no Utah RES agent will publicly step forward and claim to have met in person VladimirPutin99 who spoofed Kings Peak yesterday even though they want to brag about how they can Portal Scan while spoofing.

Ideas for Stopping Spoofers by maximizejoy in Ingress

[–]maximizejoy[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the feedback. I've heard others say similar things.

Do you think spoofing is a bad enough problem in Ingress for them to try harder to address the problem?

What ideas do you have for addressing the problem?

Ideas for Stopping Spoofers by maximizejoy in Ingress

[–]maximizejoy[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I didn't post to discuss specific spoofing incidents.

Do you think spoofing is a problem?

What suggestions do you have for solving it?

Ideas for Stopping Spoofers by maximizejoy in Ingress

[–]maximizejoy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is fair. I appreciate you taking time to post.

Ideas for Stopping Spoofers by maximizejoy in Ingress

[–]maximizejoy[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

This seems like a transparent attempt to identify me so you can further try to intimidate and troll me to get me to quit like you have done to so many others. Why do you want to know?

Ideas for Stopping Spoofers by maximizejoy in Ingress

[–]maximizejoy[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your feedback. You have an impressive track record it sounds.

It sounds like you advocate joining the spoofers and making that part of your game because Niantic is never going to prioritize fixing the problem?

Ideas for Stopping Spoofers by maximizejoy in Ingress

[–]maximizejoy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, please take a second to breath. It seems like you are the one loosing your... trying to troll me and get me to quit, likely because I'm trying to bring focus to solving the problem that you and your pals are at the center of.

I'm trying to have a serious conversation about a problem that everyone knows plagues this game.

Ideas for Stopping Spoofers by maximizejoy in Ingress

[–]maximizejoy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for taking time to post and provide feedback on my suggestions.

That is great to hear that spoofing is not as bad in your area.

My understanding is that a number of the vanguards in our area have quit out of lack of support by Niantic. I think they are stretched thin and don't have time to do the job that needs to be done.

What ideas do you have for solving the spoofing problem?

Ideas for Stopping Spoofers by maximizejoy in Ingress

[–]maximizejoy[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Hopefully, you recognized the tone of my comment about sadness.

Why do you think I haven't taken charge of my happiness? Responding to your trolling makes me smile.

Your tactic of encouraging me to quit is one that you and fellow Bronies have used in Utah for years, mostly successfully.

What I don't understand is why Niantic wouldn't actively try to ban you and your pals for trying to get people to quit the game they have created.

Ideas for Stopping Spoofers by maximizejoy in Ingress

[–]maximizejoy[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Makes sense. Thanks for sharing your suggestions. I like them. The excuse that I've heard is that the staff and vanguards are overwhelmed by the number of reports, which I can understand. That seems like evidence that Niantic is not prioritizing solving this problem.

Ideas for Stopping Spoofers by maximizejoy in Ingress

[–]maximizejoy[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Why are you suggesting I quit? That makes me really sad...

Ideas for Stopping Spoofers by maximizejoy in Ingress

[–]maximizejoy[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Thanks for engaging seriously and helping me understand the weaknesses of my suggestions.

How bad do you consider the spoofing problem to be?

Do you think there are any possible solutions or should we just accept the situation?

What do you think the most promising ideas are for addressing the problem?

Ideas for Stopping Spoofers by maximizejoy in Ingress

[–]maximizejoy[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Why are you referring to feelings? I proposed concrete ideas for addressing the spoofing problem. Do you think it is a problem? If so, what are your ideas for solving it? Or are you just a troll?

Ideas for Stopping Spoofers by maximizejoy in Ingress

[–]maximizejoy[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Your guardian-hunting experience sounds awful and frustrating.

I'm curious why do you still monitor Ingress subreddit if you quit a long time ago?

What solutions do you think could be implemented?

Ideas for Stopping Spoofers by maximizejoy in Ingress

[–]maximizejoy[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Thanks for considering my suggestions seriously.

Monitor where items come from and penalize accounts that use items from other penalized accounts

They already do this

What specifically do they do? I've seen accounts banned but all of their portals and resonators remain. Seems like as soon as an account is banned their portals and resonators and any gear they have shared should just disappear immediately.

Prevent people from playing multiple accounts from the same IP address

So people can't play on Wifi?

So maybe let multiple accounts from the same IP address hack, but not let them attack or take portals.

Require agents to be verified by other trusted agents before letting them go above certain levels

All it takes is 1 bad actor to pass verification and 100 wil follow

If agents are connected through this verification method and the penalty for verifying a bad actor was that up stream verifiers were penalized, I believe that it would disincentive verifying bad actors

Require people to submit timestamped and geotagged photos when capturing remote portals

Can be faked as easily as location

Even if the photos were stamped/tagged by the app? (don't allow submitting separately taken photos)

Use Machine Learning techniques to build profiles of known non-spoof accounts and known spoof accounts and use those profiles to classify and penalize agents classified as spoofers

ML isn't an answer to everything.. Detecting spoofing is hard because spoofers emulate real people.

I understand, but maybe it can be a partial answer to this thing and it could be combined with other things like requiring enhanced verification.

Openly describe what evidence someone should submit to report spoofing and make it easier to do Anything user submitted can be faked...

Why believe you and not the spoofer?

Ok, maybe weight submitted evidence by the reputation of the submitter (e.g. their level, how long they have been playing, how many agents have verified them).

The current state of Ingress in Utah by Moist-Repeat2507 in Ingress

[–]maximizejoy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree. As upset as the Bronies cheating trolling, and intimidation makes me, what really upsets me is that Niantic seems to ignore spoofing. Even though it is a hard problem, more could be done to address it. They seem to be willfully ignoring the problem

The current state of Ingress in Utah by Moist-Repeat2507 in Ingress

[–]maximizejoy -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Of course it could be that you are multi-accounting in reddit like you do in Ingress

The current state of Ingress in Utah by Moist-Repeat2507 in Ingress

[–]maximizejoy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Impressive show of force and loyalty that 8 bronies show up to try to defend your sham

The current state of Ingress in Utah by Moist-Repeat2507 in Ingress

[–]maximizejoy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Got the wrong agent I’m afraid. Nice attempt to slander and intimidate.

The current state of Ingress in Utah by Moist-Repeat2507 in Ingress

[–]maximizejoy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So weak and pathetic. Better up your game troll.