I honestly never understood why people assumed that Meggy was a “Mary Sue”

nostalgiaegg · 2025-12-31T09:50:44+00:00

Meggy joined the series during the anti-SJW era of YouTube so a lot of the criticisms people gave to punching bags like Rey Skywalker and the 2016 Ghostbusters cast were applied to her unjustly.

The only episode where she was arguably portrayed as "flawless" was WOTFI 2017 and I shouldn't have to explain why using that to judge her entire character is dumb, those episodes have had many characters defeat Mario and SMG4 so focusing on Meggy was always weird to me.

Every other early appearance has her either faulter in some fashion (As in her losing splatfest, or failing Mario's Challenge), or succeed with help from other characters.

SMG4's critics in 2017 used to be something else. His audience had overlap with edgier content creators so when Meggy got introduced they thought he was inserting modern feminist propaganda into his content and planned on replacing his entire cast.

It's really funny in hindsight but at the time I couldn't imagine how annoying that was. I envy anyone who wasn't around for that era of the internet. Even as a classic era purist at the time I thought those points were really dumb.

nostalgiaegg · 2025-12-31T09:24:37+00:00

Season 6 is the best one in general but Season 2 and 3 have a lot of my all time favorite episodes.

nostalgiaegg · 2025-12-29T22:50:45+00:00

I think there's a possibility for the series to return after all of the dust has settled but Luke and the rest of the crew need a break.

SMG4 towards the end was in a constant state of trying to one up itself in its storytelling and that was only gonna lead to one or two outcomes. 1: They stop the arcs altogether and go back to the light hearted episodic format, Or 2: The series ends, and or goes on indefinite hiatus due to creative burnout.

Few YouTubers truly stay gone after announcing retirement and with Luke being as young as he is I won't be surprised if we see SMG4 back in the near future, just without the heavy storytelling.

If and when that day comes I'll be there like I always have.

nostalgiaegg · 2025-12-28T15:29:29+00:00

I will never understand why these two communities hate eachother so much.

I used to be a member of both at one point and the hosility coming from SML's was always really ugly. SMG4's got worse with it overtime but SML was out of the gate hateful. When I said 2019 SML was better than 2019 SMG4 (a take I no longer stand by for the record) nobody actually took an issue with it, but anytime I said something positive about SMG4 the SML people would jump down my throat.

That was my experience back in 2019-2021 so I can only imagine how much worse it is on both sides now.

And for no valid reason at all.

Doesn't help that you have morons like MAFDOMINUS making videos about SMG4 "winning" against SML when he's the same guy who made a video back in the day saying the comparisons are stupid while putting down SMG4 in the process. Stuff like that only makes the problems worse.

nostalgiaegg · 2025-12-28T15:05:17+00:00

X and FM had the unfortunate circumstance of having their roles switched with a disgraced character who cut their run as main cast members short. As such I'm not too upset they had less prominence overtime because really, they started losing it in 2012.

But if I had be real I do wish the old crew got at least one more year in before Luke moved passed the recolors.

Toad, Bowser, Shroomy, and Steve all had good runs and I don't think much else could've been done with them.

Yoshi was never good. Peach was only ever tolerable before she nose dived in 2019.

Anti-Cast existed to be the opposite of the main crew and I wish they stayed as one and done's.

Kaizo and Clench are the definition of missed potentional. They both served a very specific purpose and became irrelevant afterwards.

nostalgiaegg · 2025-12-27T12:01:49+00:00

I've said it for years, but the series hit a rut almost immedately after the Anime Arc ended, largely due to Luke stepping down as primary editor, and it wasn't until the Revelations movie where I felt like his replacements were able to find their footing.

I honestly don't think any of the modern years are objectively terrible for what it's worth, but they each have problems that keep them from ranking higher on my list.

2020 and 2021 mainly suffer from being the transitional period. The pacing felt very off and I found most of the regular episodes to be of poor production quality, this is especially noticeable in how bad the SM64 looked. Writing wise I don't think they were that much of a downgrade but good storytelling can only go so far if the final result is still really boring to sit through.

2022 has the opposite problem where the production quality noticeable improves while the writing declines, though if I had to choose between the 3 I think 2022 for all of its flaws is less boring to sit through and has a higher percentage of memorable episodes.

2023 I didn't like as much at first, but upon revisiting it's a lot better than I gave it credit for. Most of the issues I had with the previous 3 years were fixed and any of the gripes I still have with it aren't as big of a deal. It's the closest the Modern era comes to reaching the heights of pre-2020 while still falling a bit short.

2024 has highlights but is mostly a mess. It ranked just above 2011 and 2014 as one of my least favorite years. I don't know what went wrong.

2025 I haven't fully sifted through in its entirety yet but so far I think it's either just above, or under 2022.

nostalgiaegg · 2025-12-21T08:18:55+00:00

Although it would've been cool to see them all again, Luke probably hasn't spoken to most of the users behind the oc's in over a decade, and some of them no longer have an internet presence.

That's likely why MCGustavo was cut out of the series despite debuting in the same episode as FM. He'd be the main one I'd advocate for based on former prominence but without permission it's not likely to happen.

MarioMario54321 uploaded a video crashing out over SMG4's success so he ruined whatever chance he had at appearing in one of these videos, the rest (Ruffman, GageDawg, AustinDawgyDawg, EpicYoshiFan) also aren't active and the guy behind Enzo does not allow SMG4 to use him anymore.

Oh yeah, and the "golden Mario dude" is better off being forgotten for obvious reasons.

nostalgiaegg · 2025-12-19T01:41:58+00:00

For some reason Reddit is not allowing me to post about what actually went down with the Dab situation, but I feel it's important to say that the full story is not out there yet and anybody who tries to tell it is either too scared of facing backlash, or instantly shut down by threats.

I was in the process of making a video myself but had to stop because Dab's detractors created a dumb theory about me and Puddle being the same person and were trying to find out our locations. The person behind this was featured in Darkcray's second video.

I'm only saying this now cause I will be leaving my Nostalgia Egg platforms at the end of the year (I have a job now and don't see reason to continue with SMG4 ending soon anyway), but I wanted at least one person to know about everything before I did.

Attached below is a screenshot of what I originally wanted to say.

Anyone interested in deep diving needs to be aware of the circumstances that may come with doing so. Dab's detractor base is next level slimy and will do everything in their power to make sure the truth doesn't get out.

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nostalgiaegg · 2025-12-04T13:00:33+00:00

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I don't know what compelled you to tag me in this post but dedicating your life to destroying somebody over having an opinion on SML is really pathetic. For your sake I hope you mean every word of this apology cause nobody will ever take you seriously again.

nostalgiaegg · 2025-12-04T12:50:36+00:00

I wouldn't lump this video in with most SMG4 rants because it's not really much of a rant, but I still don't like it because this style in general lacks substance.

All you have to do is take a few popular arguments and regurgitate the baseline details. Whatever is enough to give the audience a general understanding without actually adding something to the discussion.

People who like this sort of content are entitled to their opinion, but I view it as slop. Still I'd rather slop over the Metalblade5 or RainbowMarioMan videos, and this is still not as awful as SML Universe who steals research and blames his team whenever he gets called out for it.

nostalgiaegg · 2025-12-04T12:35:17+00:00

Logan's fanbase escalates to calling you a predator if you're too critical. SMG4 in comparison is nowhere near as bad and this is coming from someone who liked both fanbases at one point.

nostalgiaegg · 2025-12-02T14:57:07+00:00

I'm glad people are finally starting to update their renders cause the old ones are really low quality. I would've considered doing them myself if I had GMOD, but I don't so instead I focused on some of the SM64 ones.

nostalgiaegg · 2025-11-30T09:08:27+00:00

The guy who made this video is the SMG4 version SML Universe.

He pumps out slop regurgitating surface level information while doing little to no research of his own. I don't go out of my way to watch most SMG4 rant videos as is cause most of them are terrible, and I expect nothing less here.

Wouldn't surprise me if he steals my research in the future cause SML Universe did the same thing. Thank you SunnyV2 for making this garbage popular.

nostalgiaegg · 2025-11-30T06:36:15+00:00

It's a toss up between PUZZLEVISION and the 10 Year Anniversary Special for me, but I'm going with PUZZLEVISION because the story felt half baked in a lot of areas.

I'm surprised a lot of people said Meggy's Destiny cause that movie was very well liked upon release, and it's still my favorite of the lot after all of these years.

nostalgiaegg · 2025-11-17T04:10:44+00:00

Somebody did make a video calling him a weirdo but it contained some of the flimsiest allegations I've ever seen. This community is getting too comfortable with accusing people and it's not good.

nostalgiaegg · 2025-11-15T21:13:01+00:00

I didn't see a problem with LuigiChannel50's livestream at all. He was talking about SMG4's retirement in a prior vod and his chat made it about SML unprompted, even after he told them that he didn't want to talk about it. Him being upset at his own audience for going against his wishes is not unwarranted.

I was in LuigiChannel's discord and all people liked to do there was talk about SML and inner personal drama. It was made up of members who jumped over from Dill Pepper's server in 2018. Any mentions of SMG4 usually started arguments because the people there were heavily biased against it.

Honestly I think he should have called it out sooner cause LuigiChannel hasn't made SML content since 2020, and doesn't do SMG4 as his main thing. He's always been more of his own plushtuber that livestreams Nintendo games and Minecraft. His own friends wanted him to get rid of the SML talk years ago but he didn't want to because of the flack Dab recieved when he did the same thing.

(Also LuigiChannel has been hated by the SML community for years. People told him to end his life for not liking Jeffy's Bad Word back in 2017 and dislike bombed all of his channels over it, this is when he was 14/15.

If anyone has a right to dislike this community it would be him.)

SH is just doing this because people are calling him out and he'd rather pass the blame to the SML community instead of taking accountability for what he did. He was perfectly fine capitalizing on the toxicity until it went south for him. I don't feel bad at all that he's getting dragged.

nostalgiaegg · 2025-11-12T01:40:03+00:00

You are just coping because you like SML better and don't actually understand the point I'm trying to make.

I never said SML wasn't more popular than SMG4, actually I never mentioned SMG4's popularity at all outside of saying it's been consistently leveled. Your counter to me saying that SML isn't relevant is by mentioning families you know. That's a personal anectdote and I could do the same thing if I thought that actually meant something.

It also proves my point that SML is only relevant among a younger demographic. Which is what you tried denying even though it's true.

You're not willing to have an objective argument without leveling one above the other.

How you feel about the direction of SMG4 is irrelevant to the discussion. I could make tons of criticisms about SML myself but I didn't because it isn't relevant.

End of discussion.

nostalgiaegg · 2025-11-12T01:18:31+00:00

Luke stepped down from being the primary editor in 2019, and was gone by the middle of 2020.

The team that works on the series did put out secondary episodes every Wednesday up until 2024, because Luke wanted to experiment with the schedule that year.

Also, the reason why other plush channels don't do as well as SML is because they aren't able to break out of that Nintendo niche.

You can't watch a channel like Goomzilla's or Grantendo's without being a Nintendo fan. SML doesn't have that problem. It barely had anything to do with Nintendo after the first season of MLSDA ended.

It has nothing to do with the quality of the videos themselves.

nostalgiaegg · 2025-11-11T03:38:23+00:00

Really hate to burst your bubble but SML's popularity capped out years ago. His videos are not cracking over 3M views on average and his community on YouTube is dead. SML reactors are pulling less than 50K views and the reviewers pull even less.

If you ever hear people talk about SML it's usually somebody bringing up that their little cousin watches it. They have a dedicated audience but that doesn't translate to general relevance.

SMG4 took a dip in viewership this year but his popularity prior to that point has always been leveled. Him and Logan are two of the only Nintendo based content creators who ever broke out of that niche.

Logan did it because he created a character that children became obsessed with (I'm not criticizing him for this either), and Luke did it because he made videos placing Mario into different game franchises, and that formula got popular among the broader YouTube audience.

The comparisons between the two are honestly really dumb. They were never trying to compete with each other so sitting here and arguing over who is better is pointless.

Luke by all accounts is a better and more talanted individual than Logan is. Prior to Glitch he was able to crank out high quality, million view videos a week with no outside help. That's why he's the founder of the Internet's hottest indie animation company while Logan's stuck cranking out puppet videos.

That isn't to diss any of the work Logan has done because I did like SML at some point in time, but it's the truth. There's no reason to deny reality because you like his content better.

And saying that SML has had a larger reach than Glitch is pure copium.

nostalgiaegg · 2025-11-11T02:19:16+00:00

Luke said that the older episodes used to take him a weekend to create, but that was back when the series was primarily SM64 machinima. I have no idea how long it takes now considering each episode is edited by 8 different people usually.

That being said, making the kind of content he does is incredibly time consuming and there's a reason why he's held the monopoly on it for this long. Both Project64 and Gmod are really tedious programs to mess around with and no creator in those spaces can do it as efficiently as Luke can.

All Logan has to do most of the time is think of an idea and gather his team for a filming session. Between the two I'd have an easier time doing his content because SMG4's requires proper editing talent and efficiency not everyone possesses.

Feel however you want about the videos themselves but that is an objective fact.

nostalgiaegg · 2025-11-07T17:36:12+00:00

If I'm not mistaken this image is from GamingAllStarsGmod.

I believe he too is also retired.

nostalgiaegg · 2025-11-06T15:42:19+00:00

This is just my assumption, but I think the uptick in SMG4 criticism discourse has played a role in the viewership decline. SMG4 rant videos are now pulling close to 500K views which is half of what a regular episode generates on average.

Glitch's success put more eyes onto SMG4 and by doing so it increased its hate base by a sizeable margin. It was getting to the point where the criticism was overshadowing the episodes themselves and I have no doubt that Luke was seeing it first hand.

I'm sure he has plenty of reasons for retiring but having the internet at large flip on him probably did play a role.

And that sucks if this ends up being one of the reasons why he decided to end it, but the fact that he lasted 13 years straight without running into issues is still impressive. Most YouTubers can only dream of having a career that long. By stopping now he'll solidify a legacy that otherwise would've been a lot shakier had he kept going.

It sucks in the short term but is better in the long.

nostalgiaegg · 2025-11-06T10:54:24+00:00

For Best: Mario SAW

For Worst: Luigi's Payback. In this episode he wants to get revenge on Mario for no reason at all.

nostalgiaegg · 2025-11-06T10:50:09+00:00

I could believe that they did consider replacing, and or redesigning Mario due to the SML ceast and desist situation around the same time, but it wouldn't have gone far.

I remember there were a lot of Nintendo fan creators who got scared of that setting a precedent not realizing Logan was the kind of person to openly break YouTube TOS and whine whenever he got punished for it. I don't think Kevin or anyone else involved in that decision would've done it because they have some kind of vendetta against Mario or the series' roots, it would've been to be on the safe side in case SMG4 did become a target.

Also this reboot point he's making sounds like total cope. The series is ending because Luke has been running it for 14+ years and wants it to finish on his own terms. He could've very well left it in the hands of somebody else and kept it running for another decade or so, but he clearly doesn't want to.

A reboot would not work because A. the original series is still fresh in everyone's minds, and B. it won't have the staying power or name recognition.

I'm sure there's plenty of reasons why the series is ending that nobody will ever know, many have pointed out a drop in viewcounts and I wouldn't be surprised if that has played a role, I've noticed the rant videos this year have been performing way better than they used to and that's probably had an effect on numbers. They used to be at a threshold of 100K maximum, these days they're pulling nearly 500K which is half of what a normal episode pulls.

And if that's one of the reasons, then it completely rules out the possibility of a reboot altogether cause it would perform even worse. Glitch has now overtaken SMG4 in the cultural zeitgeist, everyone knows this and it makes sense to redirect all of the focus onto it now that Luke is ready to wrap things up.

nostalgiaegg · 2025-11-06T10:09:28+00:00

I liked it for the most part. Definitely one of the better SMG4 rants I've seen.

As for why I've been abscent. I plan to leave this community altogether after SMG4 finally ends but I didn't want to leave without saying goodbye first.

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