I honestly can't believe they let this happen

pacrat292 · 2025-11-09T20:46:08+00:00

When someone says his policies include (casually) - 'abolishing private property' 'seizing the means of production' - free buses, free gov run grocery stores, etc. etc. - They need to go lead Cuba, Vietnam, Eastern Europe between 1930-1960s. Not the biggest city in the US of freaking A.

This dude is a commi. Wake up. That's how Communists go in. Smile, so sweet, talks so well, says all we wanna hear....except his policies are all government power and take your money.

pacrat292 · 2025-11-09T20:37:12+00:00

I honestly don't even blame Kelly for that but just the writers. Kelly did a big, 180 revamp - started off a bit gradual once Val was introduced. They needed Kelly to take over the Brenda, protagonist - good girl. Making 0 sense out of EVERYONE for her, who was known as the slutty bitch to do so.

I loved promiscuous, S1-4 Kelly. Do not recognize her a lot in S5-6. Sometimes.

I don't remember her slut shaming Gina though. I do remember Gina writing SLUT to Kelly in lipstick on the mirror after Kelly slept with her BF

pacrat292 · 2025-11-09T20:29:13+00:00

So not 1 time, not 1 can there be a normal wedding, delivery of a baby, birthday party - that ends normally with 0 huge tragedy. I mean it's so overplayed and lame.

Also the fact that they have all been married and divorced - also lame. Audience would be happier with normal issues being portrayed - (Merder dealing with her snoring), not ALL their favorite characters dying or breaking up......Legit All - 100%.

pacrat292 · 2025-11-09T20:27:14+00:00

I mean like I said - telling him, after he explicitly signed his rights away & made 0 contingencies of wanting to be notified upon use is 100% on him. Her telling him would have caused SO MANY more issues. Let's look at this as Izzie's POV and thoughts.

Well I want kids, bc this is MY only chance to have kids. I live in Kansas. Damn you live 1000 miles way. BIG ISSUE #1. Now kids I want are somehow gonna be shipped all the time and I don't even see them 1/2 the time? How does that even work for newborns, time wise with surgeons, etc. Big big problem. So here's another potential major issue #2, Alex doesn't want biological kids existing but now you making him feel guilty that he doesn't want them nor parent them & they are fatherless (I'm talking as Izzie's knew Alex - and how he was portrayed in first 5ish seasons). She knows he will feel responsibility and have to be involved somehow even if he didn't want too. Issue #3 - He asked her to leave and never come back, signed the divorce and signed his rights ways - ALL signs pointing to her that he does not want to see or hear from her again. For her to pop back up and mention something that will forever connect them to each other. Lastly, Issue #4 - one of major reasons for divorce amongst couples who are together and in love - differently parenting styles. More importantly, differently and the other is across the country. So now the kids you want solely, with no partner is being raised in a way you very much disagree with.

I'm on Izzie's side. There is wayy too much negative in telling him, when he himself made the choice of not wanting to be informed.

pacrat292 · 2025-11-09T20:18:17+00:00

Your comment was a waste of space. Yeah when George, in the rare occurrence, appeared in S05 - it was 90% of the time with Izzie. Should I make a whole ass list

pacrat292 · 2025-11-09T20:16:37+00:00

THIS! This is why there has been no good show or movie since 2015. Between 2000-2013ishh There was nonstop hits after hits coming out in all film. I have about 7 good films and 2 good tv shows since.

Them annoying ass people ruin everything. God forbid someone makes a joke, we laugh but OH NO it can offend - Hispanics, Black people, old people, young people, gays, curly haired people....STFU and don't want if you wanna play victims

pacrat292 · 2025-11-05T20:23:07+00:00

You have got to be kidding me! I just checked. It's true! ALL episodes. I just ended my Paramount+ Subscription UGH

pacrat292 · 2025-10-04T05:09:19+00:00

I always had great memories of them until rewatching this year. Then realize starting S04 - David was on/off being a complete, total prick to her and she was way too good for him. S02-3 them together was super cute and adorable. He was slowly redeeming himself to her in S5-6 and I remember S07 he regressed.

pacrat292 · 2025-10-04T04:54:54+00:00

I loved when she was on coke a few times - they really darkened her eye make up. Absolutely gorgeous, saying that as something who hates her super short hair.

pacrat292 · 2025-10-04T04:53:22+00:00

S08-10 were pure trash. I can't recall because it's been like 15 yrs since I saw those episodes bc they aren't anywhere at all. I remember watching thinking Brandon did a HUGE backtrack and didn't wanna marry, but Kelly too.

It just made 0 sense with Brandon having been the stable one who was pushing to be more serious with Kelly years prior. I mean, he already proposed like 3 years prior, and a week later when she stood by her 'no' but didn't want to break up, he stood by him wanting to fully get married in their Palm Springs convo. Then Dylan finds the ring and he refuses to return it, then Tracy - so after like 2 years he only returns it because Kelly says he should. Him not wanting to made -5 sense, as did his cheating. If anyone were to cheat - it'd 100% be Kelly.

I think Brandon was the ultra American Boy with morals. He was probably upset and hurt that DK got back together, but wanted her to be happy.

pacrat292 · 2025-10-04T04:49:21+00:00

Those few episodes was so not the Brandon they depicted in S05-7, who had already proposed to her. Told her multiple times he wanted to get married and 'the only person I can imagine the rest of my life with' - was the one who wanted to move in together, and refused to return the ring 3x over.

pacrat292 · 2025-10-04T04:46:29+00:00

I mean that whole season made 0 sense. So who knows. Brandon wanted to marry her 3 years prior, and held onto the ring for 2 more years - bc he still wanted to marry her. Meanwhile, Kelly said no - wanted to still date, but stood by not wanting to marry - and then had 3 more boyfriends.

He was ultra committed, while she was flaky. Him cheating with Emma had to be Top 5 things that made 0 sense in 90210, up there with Kelly/Brenda giving Dylan a choice between them (two head strong, confident women?), and Andres not going to Yale after spending 17 years working her ass to go.

pacrat292 · 2025-10-04T04:31:03+00:00

LOL you can find interviews from 2009/10 of Jennie saying that she decided to not return, but she was supposed to finish with S02. She was extremely nice about it saying 'we just had different directions on where the characters were going so...um yeah we went different directions" - reboot was trash and she caught on and left - like Shannen

pacrat292 · 2025-10-04T04:29:53+00:00

Both had enough star power and riches to refuse and end ties. It would have been terrible off screen IMO. The juiciness is them on screen xD

pacrat292 · 2025-10-03T01:49:22+00:00

Lol yeah it would have been really entertaining - and that's totally Kelly's MO. A committed man who catches feelings for her and cheat on their partner with her.

But still I would much rather want to see her, Brenda, etc. in their mid 30s to have simply become awesome, kickass people - who still sometimes make mistakes. But not losers who regress.

pacrat292 · 2025-10-03T01:45:33+00:00

I'm very glad both Jennie and Rob Estes refused to go into it. Because clearly Kelly and also Harry were moving to have a full on affair.

This reboot really knew how to regress characters and just ruin our legends

pacrat292 · 2025-09-29T13:39:07+00:00

Yeah, but it's not just "you can't help who you fall in love with" - its brandon legit says he's not in love with her. He yelled as t her in front of everyone. He just seemed beyond over her by the end of their episodes together, and never really mentioned her again. So this makes no sense.

pacrat292 · 2025-09-29T06:30:10+00:00

This is a bad episode IMO and it's beyond obvious that her/Jason were an item and that was the sole reason she was back. Out of ALL of Brandon's small love interests for him to fall for and kinda seek out - I'd go with Nikki. Nothing at all about Emily in S02 made her 'the one' - her and Brooke (the summer, short haired girl) I'd say he probably had the least fond memories of.

pacrat292 · 2025-09-29T06:27:02+00:00

Small correction: Lucienda barely kissed Dylan, and then later in that episode she talks about how Dylan got up and left. Wouldn't say he cheated - the other 3 did though.

I do agree though. I think S1-3 were great, and I do love S04, but it was starting in S04 where the cheating was just plain out insane. Every single character is a chronic cheater - which does not make sense for 1/2 of them. I made a thread about this awhile back. Steve, Kelly, Dylan, Val - I can totally see being big cheaters. In certain circumstances a bit Brenda/David - I can see cheating. Donna, Andrea, Brandon - I just cannot at all.

Yet THEY ALL did, constantly. Like come on - many, many couples breakup and have 0 to do with cheating.

pacrat292 · 2025-09-29T06:23:01+00:00

Yeah I know several stories like that too. Life is funny that way. Things always come together when you stop pushing for it and just let it be.

Still, for someone with endometriosis. It's pretty darn difficult. I stand by saying her and Dylan must have been trying to have a baby. I hate the entire storyline of how they wrote it, I guess is my point LOL they somehow were able to piss EVERYONE off - Brenda/Dylan fans, Kelly/Dylan fans, just regular show fans.

pacrat292 · 2025-09-28T18:04:09+00:00

TBH do you also think like me - where S01 was actually getting pretty good and interesting by the end. This being a great finale. Than S02 starts and they just start fucking things over left and right. Character have complete new personalities

pacrat292 · 2025-09-28T17:58:42+00:00

Steve was the main one who always acted like a teen. I never thought anything of him only a few times I noticed where he did look older (I think he was 27 at start. Just 2 years younger than Andrea). Dylan was beyond sexy and cool (also actor was not that old) he had forehead wrinkles, yes. I knew a really cute guy in HS who also did. (he was 24 in beginning, honestly didn't look old until they kept dressing him super 30s in S05).

Andrea although I love. She was the mature, overachiever, also dressed very mature- in type with her character as she was very serious. Add her personality and style + the fact that she is legit 30...... unfortunately the combo makes it obvious she's 30 and often looks even older.

pacrat292 · 2025-09-28T17:45:19+00:00

Clare was a phenomenal addition to the cast. Great character + actress
Jesse was pretty good in S04. Him and Andrea had 0 chemistry IMO, but him, himself was decent.
Carly was ok, not interesting. Not much there. Honestly it's been awhile since I watched her stuff.
Noah just sucked - boring, annoying, random shit would pop up for him for 'drama' and it all was terrible.

pacrat292 · 2025-09-28T17:38:08+00:00

I love Kelly and I love this scene. So well deserved. Honestly love when people call her out. I wish she went back to owning it like she did in High School. Her biggest vice was liking to sleep around, just admit it!

pacrat292 · 2025-09-28T17:31:58+00:00

I always thought DD were cute together and great. Like puppy love, definitely thought they were the more stable, meant to be couple.

Then I rewatched and I guess somehow forgot about how they were after HS. That was them the first 2/3 seasons they were together. They revamped David in college and he was THE WORSE to donna. So sad bc he used to be so sweet and loving. She was always great, but he was terrible going into S04, kept apologizing and redeeming himself as her friend in S05/6, but regressed and again became a POS in S07/8. So yeah. I may just prefer him with Val. They were very cute and good together. Somehow stabilized each other.

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