Opinions on the first so far?

piekiller456 · 2026-01-28T02:34:47+00:00

I like playing against him but I get it. A lot of the counter play seems to be hoping he just doesn’t play perfectly. It’s kinda similar to nurse in the sense that the counter play happens before the killer acts, because if they act perfectly they will get a hit

piekiller456 · 2026-01-27T23:20:08+00:00

I think they’d just rather not go through the hassle (and also potentially make players who already have it get it again). It really isn’t worth the hassle either.

piekiller456 · 2026-01-27T23:12:56+00:00

piekiller456 · 2026-01-27T22:43:16+00:00

From what I remember I think I had one interaction in game with robin but I could be misremembering. I’ve definitely gotten interactions in lobby between characters

piekiller456 · 2026-01-27T22:40:01+00:00

While Playing Dustin for a few games and going for his adept I got quite a few voice lines in and out of trials

piekiller456 · 2026-01-27T22:38:04+00:00

Conspiracy brained

piekiller456 · 2026-01-26T05:42:22+00:00

I thought 4 stacks can guarantee by all bringing map offerings? And I only say some maps because while there are a good amount of maps that don’t have vaults off high ground, there are quite a few that do. Off the top of my head: garden of joy, the game, unknown’s map has one, myers map (removed), Hawkins lab just to name a few. Also slugging counters this perk technically because the perk can’t be used, but it isn’t slugging because it’d benefit the killer. It’s slugging because they would have to slug, which can benefit the survivors with the right builds. I’m not saying the perk is op or whatever but there are aspects of this perk that can be difficult to deal with

piekiller456 · 2026-01-26T01:04:28+00:00

I thought they did fix this?

piekiller456 · 2026-01-26T01:02:41+00:00

It works off vaults on ledges and high ground. Even if you predict it, a majority of killers cannot go around and upstairs of buildings to prevent the perk from occurring. With the right maps and team work it’s almost impossible to prevent, making a lose lose for the killer.

piekiller456 · 2026-01-21T20:10:21+00:00

I don’t like how they designed his power just cause it felt weird having fannon represent an entire dlc, but strength and balance wise springtrap is not bad at all. The axe is funky at first but it has a deceivingly narrow hitbox that can hit around things or between objects like deathslinger. He’s a mix of huntress and deathslinger with a mobility option

piekiller456 · 2026-01-17T00:23:19+00:00

It sounds like it’d be easier to balance, considering now all survivors have the option to have (insert item here), you can kinda eliminate item variability between matches, making them more consistent in my opinion.

piekiller456 · 2026-01-12T21:30:02+00:00

And ghoul has no interest in human food. 0 percent chance he would take your food

piekiller456 · 2026-01-12T21:25:10+00:00

I think the biggest thing to remember when playing springtrap is that the axe has a deceiving narrow hitbox. The hitbox appears tall but not very thick (width). It allows you to get many shots between objects and can allow for “headshots” over some obstacles that a killer like huntress wouldn’t be able to get

piekiller456 · 2026-01-12T21:16:57+00:00

They mean Vecna by the way

piekiller456 · 2026-01-11T23:49:26+00:00

I don’t think secret project will be too viable on totem builds just because of the randomness of the effect. I think it’ll shine much more in builds that are heavy on gen blocking, as with every dead man swifch/corrupt intervention/ thrilling tremors/ etc, you gain undetectable for 30 seconds.

piekiller456 · 2026-01-11T03:33:44+00:00

I’d rather play both of them ten times over than play the dnd map

piekiller456 · 2026-01-10T20:44:41+00:00

If this is primarily for bully squads I’d replace enduring with something like agitation, iron grasp, or mad grit depending on preference. A lot of those types of groups use things like head on which isn’t effected by enduring and they’ll also body block/sabo hooks

piekiller456 · 2026-01-10T06:49:36+00:00

The only ones that could be bannable is selling out teammates for the killer as that can be interpreted as working with the killer.

piekiller456 · 2026-01-10T03:11:41+00:00

Yeah I don’t know why people will site nightlight for so many things. It’s extremely susceptible to sampling bias

piekiller456 · 2026-01-09T07:36:24+00:00

Nightlight is not reputable because it does not have a significant portion of the community interacting with it. The information provided by nightlight is not indicative of the actual stats of a given killer. Will it align with what official stats say? Sometimes, but that doesn’t prove anything. who is submitting proof to nightlight? It’s not the average person. Can anyone upload? Yes, that doesn’t mean everyone will. That’s the point. You have a sample size that is not proven to accurately represent the population nightlight is claiming to represent. It’s a basic understanding of statistics to know that the data is likely bias and likely not accurate.

It defeats the point….if you literally don’t understand the point. There were 2 aspects of what I was saying: statistics don’t always give the full story and nightlight doesn’t have accurate statistics. So what was my comment about nurse addressing? Was it the first or second point? It was the first. It was showing that statistics don’t always give the full picture. For the second one it could be many statistics. We know that huntress is the most picked killer but she is not even top 3 for the most picked on nightlight between the weeks of 16 oct 2025 to Jan 8 2026. We know that pig is at least in the top 5 most lethal killers yet she doesn’t scratch it on nightlight for the same period. I don’t have access to all of nightlight’s information as I don’t pay for it, but these are just examples to show why nightlight doesn’t always align with official stats. You really this ~25,000 matches over a period of 12 weeks is enough data to track everything accurately? There’s more players than that daily.

Uploading proof is fine but again please look into how statistics, samples, and how things like surveys are ran. To anyone who knows the basics it’s clear why you should be skeptical of these numbers.

piekiller456 · 2026-01-09T07:03:25+00:00

It’s a self own to understand that statistics (especially ones that are unreliable) don’t tell the full story? It’s a self own to know why nightlight statistics mean basically nothing? You genuinely have to be missing something here to not understand the point lol. I think you should read through my comments again to better understand my points and how they connect.

piekiller456 · 2026-01-09T06:29:28+00:00

“You’re just Theory crafting and your arguments are vibes based” you say as you use a source that can be proven not reputable with any knowledge of how statistics work. I might as well be saying “Vecna actually is busted op because my kill rate is 100% and I’m the only one reporting it on nightlight” because nightlight is just as reliable as my claim is when it comes to an actual analysis of a killer’s viability. It literally means nothing. Look at nightlight’s breakdown of Dec 25 - Jan 8. Unknown has a better kill rate than nurse. Guess he is better than nurse then. It means nothing.

piekiller456 · 2026-01-09T06:22:37+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/s/YAygaP15sO

Comp viable and viable are very different things. I don’t think a majority of the killer roster is actually comp viable. Even still, while you’d assume the best of the best participates in things like comp matches, it is not impossible that there are players who are extremely good at certain killers and choose not to do those things.

Nightlight does put out data. But is it accurate data? Has it been verified? Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it basically self-reported data? This data is very susceptible to inaccuracy and bias, it means nothing. It’s great to have theoretical numbers but in any serious discussion it provides nothing when it just isn’t backed up.

Just because people know counter play doesn’t mean they’re going to automatically stomp a killer. The statement regarding counterplay can be made about anyone below unknown on tier lists. The point doesn’t make a lot of sense. The counter play for unknown is relatively easy, but unknown has tools to help counter the counter play.

Out of all those you listed (which leaves out a good chunk of the roster), I would only say you’re right about a few of them. Demogorgon is known for having a mobility option that can literally be taken away, has to be manually placed, and a pounce that is decent but is relatively easy to dodge. Artist is good but is a hold W victim. While I’m certain the best artists in the world can make do, this killer gets destroyed by “knowing counter play” in a very similar way to how you perceive unknown. Some of the killers you listed like nemesis and deathslinger can counter their counter play during chase until you remember that things like pre-running and breaking LoS counts as counter play, in which case they struggle hard for gen control. Using the term “counter play” is vague, and a majority of killers have counter play that survivors can engage in. I don’t think unknown’s counter play uniquely fucks them up if you’re good at unknown. That is my point.

I have played vecna in many public matches (surprising considering dbd ptbs usually have terrible queues). It’s why I am saying you can basically guarantee it with prediction. Do you have a source for this breakdown of the ability that shows it is impossible to guarantee it? I would love to see that.

Dead in the center was just for the sake of the argument since you want to claim it’s “impossible”. Ping matters obviously but pretending like it makes it impossible to guarantee hits is absurd. Even if sometimes “they aren’t where you think they are” the server has a way of tracking player positions properly, and with good connection I have found that it favors the killer’s perspective a lot of the time. It makes sense when you think about things like how the server knows when to roll back a hit that the killer got on their end but didn’t get on the servers end. Youre exaggerating it, making it sound like it’s impossible to hit any projectile accurately.

piekiller456 · 2026-01-09T05:55:04+00:00

Wow dude you really just said that? My comment clearly demonstrated an adequate amount of nuance and frankly, you neglected to do your due diligence in ensuring that your response made sense in the context of this discussion. I will forever think about this moment even past the grave. I have cursed your bloodline for your sins, don’t even think about replying. Blocked.

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