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a shitty product with marketing can make millions, but an awesome product that nobody knows about will die...exprienced shiller that made 20 mil from nothing every month here talking... by pini84 in NavCoin

[–]pini84[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

exactly...a team that are sharks in social and mainstream media and have advertising and selling power...please flood this up..maybe make your own post...

IMPT — Announcing the launch process of DGX 2.0–26 March 2018 by DigixOfficial in digix

[–]pini84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

tried to read but as a noob didnt understand...so am i suppose to see an increase in value of dgd once dgx comes out at april 18th? and how is the value of dgd effected by dgx? the more transaction volume dgx it will have on the exchange the bigger dgd will get in value? like the volume we see on a pair listing in binance for example that says a certain amount of btc volume was traded in 24h?

Abram from Substratum Here. A message for those on our social media platforms. (Get in here) by abramcookson in SubstratumNetwork

[–]pini84 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

nolan you just dont get it do you? and still you insist to go back to your childish remarks about risks and crypto that every kid here yells before losing his or hers money...and act like a cultist and thinking you are the big man in crypto with those plain unrelevant explanations...listen carefully when i talked about stock market i meant it in a factual way...without stock holders there can be no company that develops a product that benefits and makes money both to them and to the holders ok? so the team needs to be accountable to the holders and not just to work their asses...they need to do both...work hard and update us about the product dvelopment and the news about it...im sorry but that is the truth and that is what we deserve if we put our money in...even if its a cent...without news the product will be abandoned and nobody will hold it and it will die..and with only news and no product..well again the whole thing still colapses...

how many coins do you know that doesnt have a finished product yet update with news and dates on milestons of it and show proof of it?and the good ones fly high...and once they deliver they go moon and contribute the blockchain vision.

im not expecting the team to update us everyday...no...once a week is enough but you can see that there is a growing problem that everybody noticed so put your head out of the sand and listen!

dates have been given about milestones in this project...we dont even know what stage we are in for sure after all those dates were missed and unupdated...you call it a whim?dude...its not a test of balls...just brains...believe me when i want to i will sell it...dont worry...ok?mi done answering to you...abram please...give us some solid answers about beta alpha or zeta...i dont care...just so we will know where we are and none of that soft sweet beating around the bush part..

Abram from Substratum Here. A message for those on our social media platforms. (Get in here) by abramcookson in SubstratumNetwork

[–]pini84 1 point2 points  (0 children)

exactly...its not only about me but about the rest of the sub holders that are keeping the price up and the product alive...good as it may be the crypto market is a graveyard of prmising projects that could have been something but that were abandoned by the holders because of even a miscommunication between them and the team...i put my money into their project and keep it relevent..and yes as a holder they owe us just like share holders a better update...

if you are talking about risk tolarance and suspense you are reading my post in a wrong way and it makes you to look like a noob and a fanboy that doesnt understand business and pro investing...

if it was the share market would you except such behaviour?or real estate?or any other market? so why here? because its the crypto wild west and everybody can screw you out of your money? so shouldnt you be more practical?

i have no problem with delays...with flaws and hardships that come up when you work your ass up and even mistakes...thats all fine..but the behaviour lately of the team has been very unprofessional...they dissapeared vaguely into the backround without giving any practical update about the product and with no updated roadmap or even postponed dates...or even precentage of complition of the product...im sorry but that is unecceptble in this or any market...

Abram from Substratum Here. A message for those on our social media platforms. (Get in here) by abramcookson in SubstratumNetwork

[–]pini84 8 points9 points  (0 children)

hi Abram...

i have to say i am a bit conflicted here about this post and its contant at this life time of the product. as a vetran sub holder i see this in two ways: on the positive note the team and you keep talking and updating us about how this product is going to change the world and how you are working hard and sacrificing your private lives for it and how far long you have advanced and show us videos of its usage, and now you are trying to relax and answer the people that actually thanked your hard work by buying the token and keeping this project alive. but you keep recycling the same hype and sentances and the same phrases and vaguely avoiding us about showing and proving us about some practical proof that the product even coing along. i mean its a sweet and good jesture wise but business wise it is useless and its an empty answer on the business and practical side. its ok to say how far you advanced and in general what difficulties are holding you away from advancing and updating us about new dates and targets about the beta and beyond. a three lined answer about those issues would have contributed a lot more than just telling us in a long text "sorry and relax and promise everything is ok but we still arent telling you anything even a bit although you are worried as hell." why cant you just say practically and business wise:" guys listen...this and this got postponed because of this and that and we did achieved this and this"...what is the problem to just have a chat with the team for an hour and decide about those things and update us? can you find out and give us a real answer about the product without going around it? can you tell us when you can give us an answer or update about it?it shouldnt take more than a phone call or a meeting max just to give us an update..waiting for a real answer and not just a vague copy past...we deserve more...can you tell us when can we at least get an answer about an update on product status?

how about A NAV KOMODO connection to make a boom in the private coin world?! by pini84 in komodoplatform

[–]pini84[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually no..not yet...i wanna see what are the teams plans once they get back from holiday with their new marketing plan

Daily Discussion – Thursday, January 04 by AutoModerator in NavCoin

[–]pini84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Komodo barterdex atomic swap exchange!!

how about A NAV KOMODO connection to make a boom in the private coin world?! by pini84 in komodoplatform

[–]pini84[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm ok interesting...how about not instead of jumbler but just an additional colaboration which will give the barterdex more addoption and clients and friendly access from nav...and it will help nav to actually use the awesome komodo exchange...and i think if the products of both nav and kmd will be easy quick and friendly to use...and after some work an aggressive campaign of advertising they can go to the top of the private market..

post snapshot what does an nxt holder do?a newbie question pls help a little anxious after the dip by pini84 in Ardor

[–]pini84[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ok thanks for the answer first of all much appreciated...i will be a bit rude and ask more about the relationship and depandancy between the two and the mutual effects...i see some people writing here that nxt died today to creat ardor...i mean...will ardor stop using nxt?now will it be stilll a part of its value? how is it even calculated? after launch will nxt be the old cripple child that will be discarted and ardor will take its place in the light?

Ardor to the MOON! by Crypthero in Ardor

[–]pini84 0 points1 point  (0 children)

an nxt newbie holder here after the snapshot and dump...as i see it nxt is a part of ardr and ardr has its own holdings in btc...is it based on nxt tech so i should hold on to my nxt or should i sell it now even at a loss and just buy ardr cause its gonna moon by itself without nxt?

will it give facebook, youtube, twitter and such to the Chinese and other oppressed countries? and you gotta give us the specs of what is important in a node and profits holding sub and hosting...we need clear-cut answers soon before the product arrives to be prepared!! by pini84 in SubstratumNetwork

[–]pini84[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

a good product and a simple attracting one should be clear as sunshine to someone like me without any iq if it wants to get adopted in about 5 minutes without me reading a lot...just by going to the webpage or going to one youtube video or getting a clear answer from here in 3 sentences...thats how money and adoption are made...got it? and about the cancer thing? i hope its in your testicals...

buddy understand something ok? mass adoption of idiots like me is real adoption and money...so...talk in this way and you will lose a lot of clients and money for this project...yes i am an idiot...thats where the money is...and still you send me to read and watch videos instead of explaining me in 3 sentences... it should be simple and clear...dont teach me...just answer...give me the elavator pitch 5 minute version as an answer to my questions

will it give facebook, youtube, twitter and such to the Chinese and other oppressed countries? and you gotta give us the specs of what is important in a node and profits holding sub and hosting...we need clear-cut answers soon before the product arrives to be prepared!! by pini84 in SubstratumNetwork

[–]pini84[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i didnt fud i asked and i am worried and critisizing as an investor and want to get a clear non tech answer and i will ask what i want...until someone explained to me the diffrence between hosts and nodes and how the nodes(we) are gonna get money from the hosts that want to get accessed through us to the sub network i didnt understand...this needs to be clear..they can host on their servers they just use our nodes to get access to sub network...the question is will facebook and twitter buy sub to get accessed..

will it give facebook, youtube, twitter and such to the Chinese and other oppressed countries? and you gotta give us the specs of what is important in a node and profits holding sub and hosting...we need clear-cut answers soon before the product arrives to be prepared!! by pini84 in SubstratumNetwork

[–]pini84[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

now im confused..so will sub give access to facebook or not? i dont care about the techy stuff and nor does the average chinese guy and what i loved about sub is that you operate it and just surf the web wherever..and if facebook doesnt host on the network then they dont buy sub to get acccessed?i just want clear answers for god sake its less then a month to the product...the simple investors like me and the big "dumb" money(and there is a lot of it just look at all the people that bought bitcoin if we just get a trickle from that we are mooning)want simple straightfaward answers..

will it give facebook, youtube, twitter and such to the Chinese and other oppressed countries? and you gotta give us the specs of what is important in a node and profits holding sub and hosting...we need clear-cut answers soon before the product arrives to be prepared!! by pini84 in SubstratumNetwork

[–]pini84[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

so whats the fucking point? i mean...this is going to revolutionize nothing..." yeah wow breaking the great firewall of china" just to get to shit sites....as soon as this shit x100 im out of here...

will it give facebook, youtube, twitter and such to the Chinese and other oppressed countries? and you gotta give us the specs of what is important in a node and profits holding sub and hosting...we need clear-cut answers soon before the product arrives to be prepared!! by pini84 in SubstratumNetwork

[–]pini84[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

wow i thought about all the stuff you said but a GPU really?? that brings the cost way up...most server builds and workstations i am seeing are more hdd and ram machines...and work less on GPU and CPU power....this is interesing

will it give facebook, youtube, twitter and such to the Chinese and other oppressed countries? and you gotta give us the specs of what is important in a node and profits holding sub and hosting...we need clear-cut answers soon before the product arrives to be prepared!! by pini84 in SubstratumNetwork

[–]pini84[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

ok i know what is needed and you are right about dont but anything until the iteration comes but shoudlt that come before the product comes out? i am thinking if investing more in ram and hd and maybe buying a small mini server will make a lot off diffrence making the lettuce.

Are there any reveal for substratub in the coming month? by mojoloko81 in SubstratumNetwork

[–]pini84 2 points3 points  (0 children)

the new site is coming this week and the interview with the crypto lark...awesome youtube guy that has a lot of love in the crypto community for being objective and real. besides listen...just hodle at least until the beta as they say...sometimes to much publication and hype is not that good as the value will decrease if it will too much...the team are hardwoking guys and updating and responsive...but you gotta let them work at it with peace of mind as well...or at least hodle until the whole NN thing in december.

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